Development Blog & Reveals

[raven_jj 1]

It's as if you gave a bowl of raw eggs in a restaurant and said: we will cook it later, bon apetit.

[lexx 1391]

They could split the campaign /they must have something done/ - like part 1 and part 2 will be added later

Had the same thought. Doing it in episodes or whatever. Even if you only have 2 or 3 missions at start... at least something should be there.

/Edit: And people, don't hang up on the "free" - you already paid for the game, of course it will be free.

[Tyl3r99 41]

i agree... you simply cannot release the "final" when its clearly not the bloody final...

Are you kidding me? DELAY the game!, fix more bugs, add more features and deliver it with a solid SP element. At the moment the game is unfinished...

[GranolaBar 10]

For few readers as tyl3r99 ^^, post an answer why not but post answer for all the things with quote and requote humm i dream's the effect of :16_6_8: on your Internet^^

After MarathonMan, RequoteMan.

Also, don't lost than Arma need modding and feedback from the community about it, if we test only the vehicules or the new things from the normal game, Arma must would died and i don't want it ^^

[Tyl3r99 41]

im waiting for the part where BI says "oh the infantry units have been taken out due to re-customization... but dont worry after the final release they will come back at some point"

[chortles 263]

You might as well call the release day "Beta-with-more-units-and-an-island". Because apart from that, I'm really stuggling to see what new "features" this is supposed to result from delaying the campaign. :D

PurePassion's post that started this off basically said that it wasn't even about new features but rather existing features...

[petek 62]

This mirrors my opinion on the topic precisely.

Ditto

[Tyl3r99 41]

in other words lets make our own f*****g game

I can understand where this is coming from, but honestly, I find the fact the campaign is missing hilarious, and honestly, the "I don't mind, community will deliver" reactions are sending the wrong signal yet again. We're again in a situation where everyone is saying "Community will fix it"... features missing ? No problem, community will fix it... Content missing ? No problem, community will fix it...

As I said, I can understand why the decision was made, but I'm disappointed. If the game isn't finished, don't declare it finished. This will backfire with reviewers. This will backfire with sales. There ARE people that have no interest in multiplayer. What will they do ? Play through the showcases for the tenth time ?

Honestly, BIS, I hope you know what you are doing.

Edit: Yes, I saw that we will be able to download the campaign later, for "free".. That doesn't change the fact, though, that the game will come out unfinished.

[byku 13]

Wow.... a suprise. Well, I agree with the fact that it might be a problem when the reviewers will get the game, and i bet it was tough decision, i suppose it would be better if they would simply postpone the realese by a week or two so they could finish AI. Anyway, i hope everything will end fine :P. Oh god... again.. magical radar in tanks.

Edited August 2, 2013 by Byku

[gliptal 25]

Well, considering it was part of the advertised package, making it not FREE for everyone would not have been an option.

This.

Seriously guys, am I the only one preoccupied BIS will release a free short and simple campaign, only to deliver the main campaign via payed DLCs? Seeing how the whole DLC thing is doing to the gaming industry, and how DnA stressed ther will be A free campaign available to everyone...

Yay!

Edited August 2, 2013 by Gliptal

[GranolaBar 10]

Please my friend :), i can't read properly this thread if you post each time, 4 or 6 answers per page, the little answer in the world.

Use your principal answer and use edit function.

For few readers as tyl3r99 ^^, post an answer why not but post answer for all the things with quote and requote humm i dream's the effect of :16_6_8: on your Internet^^

After MarathonMan, RequoteMan.

Also, don't lost than Arma need modding and feedback from the community about it, if we test only the vehicules or the new things from the normal game, Arma must would died and i don't want it ^^

[Tyl3r99 41]

ok i apologise my community :)

i was doing what BI are doing ;)

releasing something and then later releasing something else and then something else lol

dont worry from here on out i will use EDIT button

Edited August 2, 2013 by tyl3r99
apology

[[GLT] Legislator 66]

Typical ... considering the amount of trouble, missing content and design issues of the current A3 version I never expected a finished ArmA 3 at release. Maybe 60 - 70 % of the game is finished. Do you really expect us to recommend an unfinished game to friends? Expect your ratings, BIS. Being a modder myself I sincerly hope you will not rely on the community for a proper game release. The last beta patch caused a lot of trouble and usually a modder has not 8 hours (or more) per day to fix things and to create content.

[turin turambar 0]

WTF.

I don't want to buy a engine, Bohemia. Nor a toolset. I want to buy a full game. Delay the release until you can deliver that.

edit: also, wth were your mission designers doing for the last three years?

[TSAndrey 1]

You might as well call the release day "Beta-with-more-units-and-an-island". Because apart from that, I'm really stuggling to see what new "features" this is supposed to result from delaying the campaign. :D

Just because there is no campaign, doesn't mean units from it won't be included. We will still get all A3 weapons, vehicles, features, Altis and etc. I think you can play with that until the campaign arrives.

[HorbeySpector 164]

BIS you cannot release a sandbox game without a campaign. you just can't. it'd be a disgrace.

"well, but there's the editor, community can make mi.." -no. You cannot expect your customers to make their own game, using your 'stable release' as a platform.

If you hadn't spend so many (human) resources on a standalone version of an ARMA MOD(DayZ) and on a game with the audience-size of my thumb(ToM), Arma 3, wich obviously(?) is your main, money yielding, project would have been far further developed. It would have all highly requested features, by BIS concidered 'additional', by release. Your loyal community would have ended up way more satisfied, and so would your wallet.

There's not much I can do besides writing a criticised comment because I allready gave you my money, trusting on your development, months ago.

[da12thMonkey 1943]

This.

Seriously guys, am I the only one preoccupied BIS will release a free short and simple campaign, only to deliver the main campaign via payed DLCs? Seeing how the whole DLC thing is doing to the gaming industry, and how DnA stressed ther will be A free campaign available to everyone...

Yay!

I think Joris has stated that the campaign will be free for all Arma 3 users because the automatic assumption of people on the internet is that the developers would release cut campaign content later on as paid DLC.

Simply seems to be a reassurance that the campaign hasn't been totally cut from the game like some other features have been, and that it doesn't form part of the same plan BIS has, for future paid DLC/Expansion content based on other features they initially planned for Arma 3 but didn't have the resources to do.

But yea, it'd be a much better idea if BIS just manned up and delayed the 'final' release of the game and extended the beta to include Altis etc. The SP campaign is after all what makes it a "game" for people who don't do much multiplayer; without that it's, more or less just mission editing software for the RV engine.

Edited August 2, 2013 by da12thMonkey

[comp_uter15776 1]

"

• Fixed: Taking a new primary weapon would put a sidearm in your hand first (being tested internally still)
  

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Yes!

[chortles 263]

BIS you cannot release a sandbox game without a campaign. you just can't. it'd be a disgrace.

This line alone specifically makes me want them to release it without a campaign now.

FPDR

If you hadn't spend so many (human) resources on a standalone version of an ARMA MOD(DayZ) and on a game with the audience-size of my thumb(ToM), Arma 3, wich obviously(?) is your main, money yielding, project

As has been discussed elsewhere, the "supermajority" (that is, more than "50% + 1") of BI devs are Arma 3 devs while DayZ mod and Take On Mars have much, much smaller teams.

I think Joris has stated that the campaign will be free for all Arma 3 users because the automatic assumption of people on the internet is that the developers would release cut campaign content later on as paid DLC.

The funny thing is, for all of people's insistence on putting money in BI's pockets, there's not really a lot of "acceptable to them" DLC options that BI has as far as monetizing content, considering how said "acceptable" options tend to be frankly low-value/low-demand stuff like what BAF/PMC/ACR do (high-res textures, higher-end sounds, and SP campaigns of questionable, mixed quality)...

[Azzur33 1]

What a load of Overreacting.

The campaign -Will Come Soon After Release-.

With the release we Will still get a massive amount of stuff. Stuff that has demanded a Lot of hard work.

With all the massive amount of stuff we get, we'll get a promise that things will be polished and tweaked long afterwards, if something somehow didn't work, or could work better.

And still some seem to be full of rage.

I really can't understand why. I try, but really can't.

Edited August 2, 2013 by Azzur33

[petek 62]

Just because there is no campaign, doesn't mean units from it won't be included. We will still get all A3 weapons, vehicles, features, Altis and etc. I think you can play with that until the campaign arrives.

Dear BIS just to try and fight a bit of the fire can you confirm this ASAP please? Info on polishing and (hopefully) additional features etc.. would certainly help too

cheers - oh and please release some new content/features soon.... think we all need BIG morale boost at the mo...

[Alwarren 2767]

Just because there is no campaign, doesn't mean units from it won't be included. We will still get all A3 weapons, vehicles, features, Altis and etc. I think you can play with that until the campaign arrives.

Not the point. The point is, it will be called a full release, fully knowing it isn't. It will be asking money from people fully knowing that what they are buying still IS a beta version, even though it is called differently. They will call it a full release because some people don't want to buy an early access game, still people will have to wait for their full game. Yes, you can stand around and admire all the nice stuff you get in the editor, but believe me, this will not sit well with reviews, this will not sit well with new players, and this will not sit well with old players that already have the feeling the game is rushed, even after, what, three years of development?

Yes, it doesn't mean it won't be included, but it also means the game is not final even though it will be sold as final.

[-ghost-tf 12]

LOL, the infamous axe has striked again. This really makes me wonder what's next? No planes at release because community can add those too? No rain becau.. nevermind, good luck with the reviews.

[Masharra 10]

The campaign -Will Come Soon After Release-.

With the release we Will still get a massive amount of stuff.

Well you see that is technically the problem. Up until a couple of hours ago we were going to get a camp on release.

Who is to say next week MBT's wont be until after release?

Who is to say fixed wing wont be until after release?

Who is to say Altis wont be until after release?

Chances are we will get that stuff ofcourse, but chances were that we were going to get a camp at release too.

No doubt that something "major" had to happen that caused them to ax the camp thus far, but what else is cut?

I just im'd my friend who I "MADE" buy the supporters editon. I threatened and hyped and bitched and bribed until he got it. I told him no camp at release. He said and I quote "altis better be the shit or else I owe him a hundred bucks."

Edited August 2, 2013 by Masharra

[Tyl3r99 41]

i like this comment

also, wth were your mission designers doing for the last three years?

i just read 3 pages back.... lol BI you got a lot of making up to do