British 'Bulldog' APC

[da12thMonkey 1943]

In my opinion the colour should match the BAF and UKF woodland versions.

Nooooooo!

Cleggy, please don't try to match the colours from the BAF vehicles. They look fuck all like any paint ever applied to British vehicles. The green's far to vibrant, the grey/black stripes have too much of a blue hue to them and frankly they shouldn't even be there in a 2012-2014 time frame.

If you do a woodland bulldog just change the current tan textures to plain olive green or NATO green.

All bulldogs are painted plain green, apart from the ones that were sent to Iraq and uparmoured. So they'd probably just be green if we did ever uparmour them for a woodland theatre. We stopped painting black stripes over stuff several years ago.

Edited July 4, 2011 by da12thMonkey

[fingolfin 1972]

Nooooooo!

Cleggy, please don't try to match the colours from the BAF vehicles. They look fuck all like any paint ever applied to British vehicles. The green's far to vibrant, the grey/black stripes have too much of a blue hue to them and frankly they shouldn't even be there in a 2012-2014 time frame.

Well, you're right. More UKF than BAF.

[da12thMonkey 1943]

I don't think we ever got it night either.

It's was a dead hard colour to match under OFP/ArmA lighting. It either looked too dark and brown in shadow or too pale and green in sunlight :(

ArmA 2's better lighting system would probably help.

[darkxess 60]

Sorry DarkXess, didn't mean to ignore you!:o

I could do a woodland version but afaik they never existed, well not in this version anyway. However if I get enough requests for it why not?... no actually I can think of one good reason ... I hate painting textures! Anyone up for the job?:j:

Thanks for the feedback on the animation issue.

No worries mate... send me the template then and ill give it a go. Also I have seen one of these in NATO White too! :rolleyes:

[cleggy 297]

Actually I rather like the way this is all going.

I've got rhaggan's crewmen playing 'aeroplanes' in the schoolyard and we're discussing paint with da12thMonkey!

I'm not taking the piss here ... I've just fired up ARMA2 to look at the difference between BAF green and UKF green.

ArmA 2's better lighting system would probably help.

I still find it a bugger to deal with - what looks good at one angle looks shite at another!

Thanks for the input anyway guys, it's made my modest little release into something rather entertaining - more of the same please:D

@DarkXess

If you want to have a crack at a retexture then you'll have to tell me what you need as I'm a bit of a knob. God help you when you see my UVmaps!

[(st6)predator 0]

@cleggy

If we already need the "BAF-Addon", why you dont put the "British' Bulldog 'APC' " in the "BAF Group" ?????

I would like to see the "British' Bulldog 'APC' " rather in the "BAF Group"

The British Armed Forces should be completed by those (great) Add-Ons.

Best Regards

(ST6)Predator

Edited July 3, 2011 by (ST6)Predator

[darkxess 60]

@DarkXess

If you want to have a crack at a retexture then you'll have to tell me what you need as I'm a bit of a knob. God help you when you see my UVmaps!

LoL you dont have too much respect for yourself do ya? hehe...

Just send me the one you have now, ill work on that and change it to what I need then when im done ill send you back :)

[styxx42 0]

Nope i havent got her fixed and now for some screens.

http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/Robert_Haggan/Arma2OA2011-07-0317-22-48-18.png

http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/Robert_Haggan

rhaggan and cleggy that first shot looks like the same issue I have using SMK PVP animations with DAPMAN healing and Ace. (meaning not your addon, but a combination of the above does that in any mission).

Rhaggan is it possible you are using one or more of the above mentioned addons to get some or all of the visual issues with this addon?

Just my two cents.

+1 for woodland camo as well.

And Cleggy great release.

Great work

Thanks.

[Daniel 0]

+1 for a green paint job, it'd be a real shame not to see this on all the great non-deserty maps.

[rhaggan 10]

rhaggan and cleggy that first shot looks like the same issue I have using SMK PVP animations with DAPMAN healing and Ace. (meaning not your addon, but a combination of the above does that in any mission).

Rhaggan is it possible you are using one or more of the above mentioned addons to get some or all of the visual issues with this addon?

Just my two cents.

+1 for woodland camo as well.

And Cleggy great release.

Great work

Thanks.

I figured it was SMK bt i took all my addons off except cba and the bulldog it done the same and then also took of cba and it didn't work. Im not sure what it could be ive got a copy of the rpt file but its well over 20,000 characters all to do with cfg. skeletons.

[cleggy 297]

rhaggan and cleggy that first shot looks like the same issue I have using SMK PVP animations with DAPMAN healing and Ace.

Thanks for the suggestion, I thought you might be on to something ...but apparently not judging by Robert's post above.:mad:

Edited July 4, 2011 by cleggy

[(st6)predator 0]

@cleggy

If we already need the "BAF-Addon", why you dont put the "British' Bulldog 'APC' " in the "BAF Group" ?????

I would like to see the "British' Bulldog 'APC' " rather in the "BAF Group"

The British Armed Forces should be completed by those (great) Add-Ons.

Best Regards

(ST6)Predator

Could I even get an Answer please ? Thank You !

Regards

(ST6)Predator

[darkxess 60]

Could I even get an Answer please ? Thank You !

Regards

(ST6)Predator

Man... stop with the whining already! just wait for the flipping reply...

its people like you who drive modders away! this is the reason why Xeno gave up amongst others cause whiners and ungreatful people like you! JUST WAIT for the reply!

[NoRailgunner 0]

Typical for (ST6)Predator is that he isn't able to understand why people don't like to "clutter" default A2OA editor groups and keep their work safe with their own name/tag. Its only right how he likes them to be or else he is angry kid. Just search and you will find similar moaning/crying posts from (ST6)Predator in other threads. Its not a bug. :rolleyes:

[Daniel 0]

@cleggy

If we already need the "BAF-Addon", why you dont put the "British' Bulldog 'APC' " in the "BAF Group" ?????

I think this current choice keeps it in line with other UK vehicle addons, correct me if i'm wrong.

[(st6)predator 0]

Typical for (ST6)Predator is that he isn't able to understand why people don't like to "clutter" default A2OA editor groups and keep their work safe with their own name/tag. Its only right how he likes them to be or else he is angry kid. Just search and you will find similar moaning/crying posts from (ST6)Predator in other threads. Its not a bug. :rolleyes:

Yes ! Your assessment of my my personal is 100 % correct !

It seem s like you know me really !

I'm impressed !

But now in serious times. I think you dont have understood what I want .

Maybe you should improve your knowledge of the English language or get a better Translator.

I think this current choice keeps it in line with other UK vehicle addons, correct me if i'm wrong.

Of Course you're right.

I thought just because the "BaF-Group" is needed either way, why not add the Addon to the same Group.

That was just a simple Question. No more, no less.

@cleggy

I did not want to be rude.

I just thought that question would be answert quickly and easily.

So I was a little disappointed because I did not get any response.

Regards

(ST6)Predator

[Daniel 0]

I thought just because the "BaF-Group" is needed either way, why not add the Addon to the same Group.

Again, I could be wrong, but I believe this method was in place before BAF was released. At least this way people don't confuse BIS units with community work in the event of bugs or compatibility issues.

[DaveP 66]

What I like:

-Almost all of it, it's pretty awesome

-That it's a mech inf unit that won't just destroy everything (warrior)

What I think may improve it:

-More ammo/more ammo per link for the gimpy; 200 rounds per box seems much more missionable

-The ability for the gunner to turn in so that he's crouching in the turret with his head protected by the glass (however unable to fire), otherwise he's a bit of a sitting duck

-The speed config feels a bit too pokey for something that has been described by ex armed forces members in-squad as 'shit'

Edited July 5, 2011 by DaveP

[McLupo 118]

Hello cleggy,

at first, it is a wonderful APC! Great work!

I use it in my Mission as an taxi, driving from point to point for testing and never get hurt ;)

Seriously it is an amazing AddOn for my mission, included BAF, US and the German Army. I will take it for patroling the enemy lines!

You never get paid for ur work, but get all credits!!

Thx a lot

Best regards

McLupo

[cleggy 297]

I dunno, I leave for one minute and when I come back I've got some more apologising to do!

First a word of explanation: I can not view these forums 24 hours a day.

I cannot view these forums with abandon when I'm at work.

I'm not viewing these forums into the wee small hours of the morning - I need my sleep, my Porn Empire doesn't run itself you know.

Having said that I will now try to redress the balance and we can all be friends again:

@(ST6) Predator

Sorry, you were kind enough to reply and so deserve an answer -

my only excuse being the 'small' problem rhaggan is having. Why is it an excuse? Well when cleggy has a config problem everyone suffers!

Daniel has answered the question for me and you seem to agree that it's best where it is. Btw I shall call you 'black cloud' from now on.

@red soldat

open version. Not sure I understand what you are asking, sorry

@DaveP

Good points, I bow to you and your squad mate's superior knowledge. I did have a slower top speed at one time. Not sure why I changed it.

Is it just me or is the perception of speed noticably different when turned in/out or in 3rd person?

The gunner can always move to the back (the coward), but that does catapult any cargo into the vacated gunner slot!

rhaggan has been doing some sterling service 'bughunting' the animations -

hopefully get some idea what's going on soon.

Big thanks to everyone who has tried it and replied.

If I owe anyone else a reply send me a 'black cloud' emoticon:D

[fingolfin 1972]

Cleggy, could you please raise the armour value a bit. I think it should survive one RPG round, which is not the case now.

[sv5000 127]

cleggy, the bulldog is v.nice, thanks for your hard work.

That is all.

[rhaggan 10]

Just started in to the long process of downloading an testing with launchers. So if anyone can give me some links to mod launchers it would be appreciated, so far ive got yomatools addon sync and arma 2 launcher and 7th cavs launcher.

[cleggy 297]

Cleggy, could you please raise the armour value a bit. I think it should survive one RPG round, which is not the case now.

I hope someone else will back me up on this when i say the armour values are 'difficult' to get right.

At the moment I have an armour value of 300 which equates to a Bradley.

During testing I found that sometimes a single hit from an rpg will disable it but the crew/cargo would bail. I thought that about right.

Another time it would brew-up if you 'looked at it a bit funny'!

Mind you I had the same result with the BAF Warrior.

Regarding rhaggan's post - he's found out that the 'bulldog' doesn't get on with addon launchers at all. Anyone else using one and getting/not getting a similar result?

[fingolfin 1972]

I hope someone else will back me up on this when i say the armour values are 'difficult' to get right.

At the moment I have an armour value of 300 which equates to a Bradley.

During testing I found that sometimes a single hit from an rpg will disable it but the crew/cargo would bail. I thought that about right.

Another time it would brew-up if you 'looked at it a bit funny'!

Mind you I had the same result with the BAF Warrior.

My fault, I was testing with the PG7VL rocket, it survives the PG7V. :crazy_o: