Brothers in Arms: Franchise Down

[Maddmatt 1]

I wouldn't get my hopes up. Illusion Softworks were swallowed up by 2K and Mafia II is a great example of how well that went.

Mafia 2... Way to kill my faith in modern games. :(

So sick of all the dumbed down crap.

[bonchie 39]

Mate, have You actually played any of the BiA's?

Because if You would, You'd be probably frustrated how corridorish was this pseudo-tactical game. How simplified or shallow in few places. How fucked up with very limited FOV a.k.a. console binocular effect. How Your mates came back to live after You finished the mission, how stripped were the controls (same button for reload\interact - WTF! no prone, etc) and options, how simplified was Gfx and how very limited was the field of battle. Plus the enormous HUD.

How can You call a game with only one good way tactical?

Well, let's ask ourselves why was it that way... hmmm... because someone decided it should be out on all platforms and ACCESSIBLE even to the kind called now "CoD kiddies"? And why PC version should be better or upgraded? PC gaming is dying, maaaan.

BiA SHOULD'VE BEEN PC based, it never was (as I'd love it to be), so please.

Want a PC title? Half Life. Men Of War. Flashpoint. These are PC ones, not dumbed down\not limited to fit onto consoles, unlike BiA.

You know what BiA felt like? Like a waste of potential. Hells Highway was just about the same ;\ (at least HH have great story and gfx)

BIA was originally only on PC for the first two titles.

Yes, HH was watered down and had Ubisoft's mark all over it, but the originals were very good and had solid tactical play. You couldn't just run and gun through them. Not even close. Most importantly they were authentic and immersive in their gameplay with very good stories.

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Mafia 2... Way to kill my faith in modern games. :(

So sick of all the dumbed down crap.

Mafia II just needed more gameplay. A lot more gameplay.

The base game, graphics, city, shooting mechanics, etc. were all good IMO.

The city in the snow in the 1940's at night was a sight to behold.

Edited June 22, 2011 by bonchie

[ACPL Jon 68]

BIA was originally only on PC for the first two titles.

Kiddin', right? I did finished RtH 30 on my friends Xbox for the first time.

Dunno about EiB, but RtH 30 hit the Xbox and PS2 and even one more platform I can't remember. Check the facts before posting stuff :)

Mafia II just needed more gameplay. A lot more gameplay.

True, true. Edited June 22, 2011 by JonPL

[max power 21]

By 'spin off' what they are saying is they want to have their cake and eat it too. Not only are they corrupting the series with an obvious intelligence insulting money grab, not only are they robbing some very creative works of their dignity and originality with this insulting derivative idiocy, but they are afraid to put their money where their mouth is and make it an official game. They're doing the videogame equivalent and taking the proudest creatures they can find and putting them in a blender, and they're even too lazy to give it an original title. They're borrowing the popularity of everything in sight. It's sickening.

[Maddmatt 1]

Mafia II just needed more gameplay. A lot more gameplay.

The base game, graphics, city, shooting mechanics, etc. were all good IMO.

The city in the snow in the 1940's at night was a sight to behold.

That's the sad thing, so much potential wasted.

The first one was a much better experience to play through, even though it was far from perfect.

[roberthammer 582]

That's the sad thing, so much potential wasted.

The first one was a much better experience to play through, even though it was far from perfect.

The Original Mafia 2 beta - was alooot better than final version what they give us ,

because 2K for some very weird reason removed all good things like buying own houses , cars etc , all side missions , racing like in mafia1 , multiplayer and much more features

Instead 2K gave us ripped version of it and then readded few things in stupid DLC's

In short - 2K removed all good stuff , what Daniel Vávra created :(

anyway sry offtopic

Edited June 22, 2011 by RobertHammer

[Mr. Charles 22]

I can't see the flash games on their webpage. I so wanted to play Flying Nazi :(

http://brothers-in-arms.ubi.com/furious4/de-DE/

[Tonci87 163]

The Original Mafia 2 beta - was alooot better than final version what they give us ,

because 2K for some very weird reason removed all good things like buying own houses , cars etc , all side missions , racing like in mafia1 , multiplayer and much more features

Instead 2K gave us ripped version of it and then readded few things in stupid DLC's

In short - 2K removed all good stuff , what Daniel Vávra created :(

anyway sry offtopic

Yeah, alone the fact that you couldn´t tune your car to gold level without DLC showed that they had cut the game content to sell it seperately.

DLCs are the downfall of the gaming industry!

[ACPL Jon 68]

...until You do it the BIS or Relic's way.

[Baff1 0]

Mafia 2... Way to kill my faith in modern games. :(

So sick of all the dumbed down crap.

I only played about 15 minutes of Mafia 2, just as I had only played 15 minutes of Mafia 1.

It looked alright to me if you are into that GTA style of game.

Was it no good then?

I was dead keen for Illusionsoft to make Enemy in Sight.

A sequel to H&D 2 is something I would be right up for.

@ Bronchie.

BIA was always a console port from day one. It had horrible slower movement on PC because it was designed for a controller not keyboard and mouse, and the textures were all low res because they were ported from an Xbox and not remastered for PC.

Xbox was 800x600 as I remember. We are talking really big Pixels.

Also when you played it on PC, you didn't have to bother using the suppress mechanic anymore becuase with a mouse it was quicker to just headshot all the Jerries. On Xbox behind cover with only their heads exposed you had to play the game using the suppress tactic because with a console it takes a lot more time to line up that kind of a shot., on the PC there was no reason to bother.

Edited June 22, 2011 by Baff1

[celery 8]

I only played about 15 minutes of Mafia 2, just as I had only played 15 minutes of Mafia 1.

It looked alright to me if you are into that GTA style of game.

Was it no good then?

One of the biggest mistakes is to think that Mafia 1 and 2 are GTA style games. Sure, they have open cities and you drive cars, but the similarities end there. Mafia is not open-ended nor is it a sandbox.

[Maddmatt 1]

I only played about 15 minutes of Mafia 2, just as I had only played 15 minutes of Mafia 1.

It looked alright to me if you are into that GTA style of game.

Was it no good then?

You missed out. Mafia 1 was a great game.

As for Mafia 2, yea no need to continue past those first 15 minutes.

The Original Mafia 2 beta - was alooot better than final version what they give us ,

because 2K for some very weird reason removed all good things like buying own houses , cars etc , all side missions , racing like in mafia1 , multiplayer and much more features

Instead 2K gave us ripped version of it and then readded few things in stupid DLC's

In short - 2K removed all good stuff , what Daniel Vávra created

anyway sry offtopic

Wow. That explains the long dev time. Is there a source for this? Did anyone actually see this version of the game?

[taro8 806]

Damn, maybe do what we did with Ghost Recon: remake BiA in Arma 2 with I44 ;).