topas 1 Posted June 15, 2011 Ha-ha! Great to see it again after all these years. Remember having high expectations and hopes regarding this map, and being disappointed when it got dumped... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenki 21 Posted June 15, 2011 Ha-ha! Great to see it again after all these years. Remember having high expectations and hopes regarding this map, and being disappointed when it got dumped... Savine vode is a place on Kosovo,so we can use it,terrain looks just like we need it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icebreakr 3159 Posted June 15, 2011 I'll see what I can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenki 21 Posted June 15, 2011 I'll see what I can do. ok,thank a lot.;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hund 0 Posted June 15, 2011 While I do like the idea of playing the game from a novel perspective, I also think that you should keep your personal political sentiments way the hell out of it. Portray the conflict by all means, but keep an open mind while doing so. Think "documentary", not "propaganda". Anyways, best of luck with the mod! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenki 21 Posted June 15, 2011 While I do like the idea of playing the game from a novel perspective, I also think that you should keep your personal political sentiments way the hell out of it. Portray the conflict by all means, but keep an open mind while doing so. Think "documentary", not "propaganda".Anyways, best of luck with the mod! And i think documentary.All what i said i had found in doc's.I have a lot of videos and books about this war so we will try to make it identic how much is that posible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hund 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Alright, it just sounded a bit one-sided when you talked about the FRY downed/damaged 140 NATO aircraft in the "heroic defence of Kosovo" (a slightly exagerated claim, by the way). If anything, the Yogoslav Wars were not one-sided - there were lots of facets, most of them ugly. It just made me worrisome that you were creating a tribute to Serbian Nationalism and not a even-handed treatment on a time where disasterous stupidity was on display from everyone involved, that's all. I guess all I am asking for is objectivity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Binkowski 26 Posted June 15, 2011 political views and ideologies need to be kept out of developing a mod for this game, you should just make the mod for fun. for the community to play and enjoy. not to make a political statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hund 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Many thanks, Mr. Binkowski. My sentiments exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abs 2 Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) Meh...I've seen a number of comments regarding 'Hadjis' and other racial terms when applied to OPFOR in these forums. I don't see what the problem is when someone on the "OPFOR" side gets enthusiastic about warring against people that they considered OPFOR as well. Abs Edited June 15, 2011 by Abs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hund 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Two wrongs don't make a right, mate ;D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenki 21 Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) Alright, it just sounded a bit one-sided when you talked about the FRY downed/damaged 140 NATO aircraft in the "heroic defence of Kosovo" (a slightly exagerated claim, by the way). If anything, the Yogoslav Wars were not one-sided - there were lots of facets, most of them ugly. It just made me worrisome that you were creating a tribute to Serbian Nationalism and not a even-handed treatment on a time where disasterous stupidity was on display from everyone involved, that's all. I guess all I am asking for is objectivity. Ok,i see what u want to say.There is no politic in my speech,I assure you.140 downed/damaged were there trust me.With this mod we want to make some fun,but also to learn u some history wich we felt on our skin.Whole my family are veterans from that war so that interested me and i started making mod. There should not be any more talk about who is right or not,or who destroyed how much and all the stuff.Only things about mod,if some one dont like just dont dont comment.:) Edited June 15, 2011 by General Frenky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abs 2 Posted June 15, 2011 Two wrongs don't make a right, mate ;D Of course not...but double standards aren't great either. :) I fully appreciate your point, and if it were up to me I would ban all derogatory terms. However, all I'm saying is that if it's okay to use the terms I highlighted in my previous post, then according to this forum's environment it's not wrong. If it's not wrong for one side, then it shouldn't be wrong for the other side. Abs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tobie 10 Posted June 15, 2011 ... you can also just play on the opposite side if you dont like serbia lol^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenki 21 Posted June 15, 2011 ... you can also just play on the opposite side if you dont like serbia lol^^ listen,we will make a campagin with Serbian Army(Army of Yugoslavia in that time) but we will make a multiplayer in wich u could play with UCK terrorists and NATO forces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hund 0 Posted June 15, 2011 ... you can also just play on the opposite side if you dont like serbia lol^^ That wasn't really my point tho. But if the good general says that it will not be a childishly nationalistic tour de force based on perceived notions of loss and defamation on the Serbian side, I'll trust him. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenki 21 Posted June 15, 2011 That wasn't really my point tho. But if the good general says that it will not be a childishly nationalistic tour de force based on perceived notions of loss and defamation on the Serbian side, I'll trust him. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with! Nice,now we undersand each other.;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenki 21 Posted June 16, 2011 This is a list of thing wich we planed to be in a mod: I Infantry Armament: 1.Yugoslavian Army(Serbian): -M70ab1-2 -M72 Machine Gun -M76 Sniper Rifle -M84 Machine Gun -M93-Black Arrow (50.call sniper) -M80-Zolja (AT Rocket Launcher) -MP5 -TT-7.62 -CZ99 -Stela 1 2.UCK: -AK/47 -Dragunov SDV -RPD -PK -M16A2 -Styer Scout -RPG-7 -SKS -Stinger-AA 3.NATO: -M16A2 -M16A4 -MP5 -Famas -M14 -SAW -M60 III armor and artillery: 1.Yugoslavian Army: -BOV -BRDM-2 -M80 BVP (APC) -T55 -M84 Tank -M84 152mm Howitzer Nora -M77 "Oganj" MRLS -Pinzgauer(Truck) -Mortar's 120 and 80 mm -D30-122mm Howitzer 2.UÄŒK \ Albanian Army: -T55 -Mortar's 120,80 & 60 mm IV aviation and air defense: 1.Yugoslavian Army(Serbian): -Prague-30mm AA Gun -M55-"Trocevac" AA Gun -KUB-SA6 -Mig-21 -Mig-29 -Eagle-J22(Posible) -G4 Super Galeb(Posible) 2.UCK: -DShK 3.NATO: -A-10 "Tunderbolth" -F16 -F14 "Tomcat" -F117 -UAV-Pedator -AH-64 Apache Unit's : 1.Yugoslavia: -infantry -63. Parachute Brigade -72.Special Brigade -Military Police -PJP(Police Unit) -JSO(Special Anti-Terroristic Unit of Police) 2.UCK: -Infantry -Black Tigers(KLA Special Unit) -Mujahedeen 3.NATO: -Green Berets (U.S.) -SAS (UK) -French Foreign Legion This is how we imagine it to be.:D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom3kb 15 Posted June 16, 2011 Are you planning to do campaign showing the conflict in Kosovo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devil Dogs SF 13 Posted June 16, 2011 Will there be any 90's regular infantry in the NATO faction such as Royal Marines or USMC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenki 21 Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) Are you planning to do campaign showing the conflict in Kosovo. Yes,there will be single player missions and multiplayer. @tom3kb No,only those special units becose RM and USMC didnt had any actions. And today we are starting work with T-55 model.First pic's will be soon.:D Edited June 17, 2011 by General Frenky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R0adki11 3949 Posted June 17, 2011 as a suggestion some of the things you have mention have already been made by the community perhaps content the original authors for permissions to use them in your mod, it will save on creating everything. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icebreakr 3159 Posted June 17, 2011 I think you're damn optimistic Frenky if you think you can pull all this off from scratch before A3 hits the shelves next year :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenki 21 Posted June 17, 2011 as a suggestion some of the things you have mention have already been made by the community perhaps content the original authors for permissions to use them in your mod, it will save on creating everything. For sure,we have a premision of Vilas to use his addons,we will ask for what we can but Yugoslavian Army is a problem becouse one part of her equipmet we need to make. I think you're damn optimistic Frenky if you think you can pull all this off from scratch before A3 hits the shelves next year We will try to finish it by the end of summer if we get island on time.:D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkhorse 1-6 16 Posted June 17, 2011 I think you're damn optimistic Frenky if you think you can pull all this off from scratch before A3 hits the shelves next year :) A good portion of it is already in OA/A2. AH-64 Predator UAV A-10 T-55 BRDM-2 M60 M249 MP5 M16A2 M16A4 Stinger MANPAD RPG-7 PK SVD AK47 Strela DShK and then here's the stuff they could try and get permission for. F-14 F-16 Mig-29 Mig-21 SA-6 Pinzgauer M80 BVP (Isn't Superrat working on one?) SKS RPD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
