super computer required?

[benjibb 10]

So do you need a super computer to play this game on high settings, I have the following and with everything on medium it runs pretty baddly, low fps and sluggish:

i7 950 @ 3.4ghz

6GB gskill DDR3 tri channel

XFX ATI 5870

I get blistering performance in any other game, on fully maxed out settings, so whats the deal is the 1300 GBP my pc cost me not enought to run this thing or am i missing something. I played around with the settings but didnt really make much difference.

[nikiforos 450]

Thats sad benjibb I understand u 100%. With your computer you should play this game with minimum 50 FPS on all islands and massive AI presence.

I was considering to upgrade my computer but I beleive its good enough as it is. There is not enough difference to justify an upgrade.

[TechnoTerrorist303 10]

You're not alone. Many people with I7s have problems, many people with them also have no issues. I know someone with an I7 machine who fixed his issues by limiting himself to 4gb ram, it certainly warrants further investigation.

I have a q6600 @ 3.15ghz , 4gb ddr2 ram and a gtx470. No performance issues here on high settings.

[vilas 477]

you have stong PC, maybe you use 1900*1200 pixel screen and want 100 FPS ???

i have in home

AMD 6000+ (dual core from 2008) , i have 2 GB Ram, i have GTS250 VGA and ... i have 30 FPS on Chernarus with high tex and models, rest on average, terrain on very low (i like OFP feel without grass)

and it works good for me at 1280*1024 19 LCD

my PC is from 2008/2007 and all works okay, 29-32 FPS is enough , cause human eye spot no difference when there is over 25 (look at movies, they are all 25 fps)

[benjibb 10]

I don't really understand it, i've got a second pc that has a very similar setup, i7 920 and a ati 5850 and arma 2 runs really baddly on that such to the extent that i would have to turn everything down to low. Seems crazy to me. Is it a problem with the games design, not utilizing multicore architecture properly or something?

[vilas 477]

please use F5

refresh side, i answered, look at my post

i have PC from 2007 only VGA and CPU is from 2008 and all is okay for me even on Chernarus + 200 my soldiers

[benjibb 10]

you have stong PC, maybe you use 1900*1200 pixel screen ???

i have in home

AMD 6000+ (dual core from 2008) , i have 2 GB Ram, i have GTS250 VGA and ... i have 30 FPS on Chernarus with high tex and models, rest on average, terrain on very low (i like OFP feel without grass)

and it works good for me at 1280*1024 19 LCD

my PC is from 2008/2007 and all works okay

yes im running it on a samsung 27" hd screen @ 1920 x 1200 or whatever the precise res is :P

[VanhA-ICON 11]

It is odd. I have also an old 2-core AMD and a Nvidia 8800GTS and the game runs pretty smooth with 1920x1200.

I've never tested how many FPS it is because it does not matter. If it's ok, then it's ok.

[vilas 477]

than you are overexpecting, take 21 LCD

you cannot expect "to have rocket in home"

you have too high monitor for this game

your VGA cannot hold it

[benjibb 10]

than you are overexpecting, take 21 LCD

you cannot expect "to have rocket in home"

you have too high monitor for this game

your VGA cannot hold it

VGA? who said anything about vga, im running on dvi m8 HD signal

Would be using HDMI but windows 7 has an annoying problem with the resolutions.

[vilas 477]

i don't know this new types of PC, HD, TV etc.

i have set-up which i said, all for me works well at this setup although it is 3 years old

my VGA is GTS 250 and i have average 30 FPS on Chernarus at 1280*1024 at 19 LCD

[benjibb 10]

It is odd. I have also an old 2-core AMD and a Nvidia 8800GTS and the game runs pretty smooth with 1920x1200.

I've never tested how many FPS it is because it does not matter. If it's ok, then it's ok.

yeh im starting to think the game might have a cap on multicore rendering at 2 cores. Im seeing tons of posts from people saying they get great performance on dual core systems and the same ammount of people scratching their heads at why their performance is so crap on quad of i7 systems.

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i don't know this new types of PC, HD, TV etc.

i have set-up which i said, all for me works well at this setup although it is 3 years old

my VGA is GTS 250 and i have average 30 FPS on Chernarus at 1280*1024 at 19 LCD

Indeed, well i can tell you my problem does not stem from my LCD monitor.

[vilas 477]

Indeed, well i can tell you my problem does not stem from my LCD monitor.

but if on my PC system (VGA, ram, CPU, whatever) has to render 1.3 megapixels (1280*1024) than in your case it has 2.3 megapixels (1900*1200)

so you have "twice heavier screen" to render than me

if i would take 21 LCD and put there 1600*1000 px resolution, my PC would stuck and lag and i would not get 20 FPS probably

if i had 17 LCD and 1024*768 px i would have 40 FPS

FPS depends of resolution very much

[Gruman 123]

than you are overexpecting, take 21 LCD

you cannot expect "to have rocket in home"

you have too high monitor for this game

your VGA cannot hold it

WRONG!

With his setup, he can easely run the Game.

Im running 6032 x 1080 ingame and its working perfectly fine with about 5k VD. See PC Specs below.

There are some basics about the whole Video Settings.

Render Resolution to 100%

Video Memory to Very High

Postprocess Renering to Very Low (looks even better)

Shadow to High (so its calculated on the Graphiccard)

AA to Normal (no big visuals there)

Viewdistance to about 3.5k

Object, Terrain & Textur to High

Are you running a 64Bit Windows to adress the 6Gb of Ram? Did you Defrag your HDD (with like GameBooster)? You have enough free Space on your HDD? What kind of HDD?

If all of this doesnt help, try disable HT in BIOS and clean up your system. With some cleanups it sould run without Problems.

Edited January 18, 2011 by swissMAG
Ha, wierd resolution i have typed in :P

[vilas 477]

oo and i have XP SP2

maybe new Windows sucks ?

i have models and textures on very high, render 100%

rest is on normal, terrain on low and post proces disabled (i dont like it at all)

[benjibb 10]

WRONG!

With his setup, he can easely run the Game.

Im running 6032 x 1080 ingame and its working perfectly fine with about 5k VD. See PC Specs below.

There are some basics about the whole Video Settings.

Render Resolution to 100%

Video Memory to Very High

Postprocess Renering to Very Low (looks even better)

Shadow to High (so its calculated on the Graphiccard)

AA to Normal (no big visuals there)

Viewdistance to about 3.5k

Object, Terrain & Textur to High

Are you running a 64Bit Windows to adress the 6Gb of Ram? Did you Defrag your HDD (with like GameBooster)? You have enough free Space on your HDD? What kind of HDD?

If all of this doesnt help, try disable HT in BIOS and clean up your system. With some cleanups it sould run without Problems.

Hey,

Yup im on win 7 64bit ultimate, fresh install as of yesterday, Arma OA is the first thing to be installed (apart from drivers etc).

Running on a Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache.

Havent tried disabling HT in bios but will do when i get home, also i'll try those settings, however im not too optimisitc.

Thanks

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oo and i have XP SP2

maybe new Windows sucks ?

i have models and textures on very high, render 100%

rest is on normal, terrain on low and post proces disabled (i dont like it at all)

Im beggining to doubt your ability to give advice :P

[vilas 477]

Im beggining to doubt your ability to give advice :P

heh

i know that when my girl installed Vista instead of XP on her PC, even Black Mirror 1 RPG game (2003 or 2004) now has lags at her PC ( from summer 2008, laptop with 1.3 dual core GHZ Intel, VGA 9550 as i remember )

when she had XP she had no problems at all , now PC is hot, ventilation goes crazy and Black Mirror1 (game which is very old) lags

even my RTCW (2001) sometimes lags when she installed vista

some OS consume a lot of resources, thats why i said about it and i would never turn from XP if i wont be at the wall

turn of postprocessing, try settings like "first all at low, textures high, models high , check FPS, than back to options, set something on normal, check FPS again, etc. etc."

use "try and again method

i really have PC from 2007/8 and Arma2 is fluent for me, even when tank or apc explode

i am testing my units, i set all "Polish troops" on map, ca. 200 soldiers and all is okay, 32-33 FPS on OA etc.

i have no problems which had people with Vista or Seven

Edited January 18, 2011 by vilas

[Defunkt 431]

Based on my experience with ATI (HD4870 1GB) you should disable AA (or at least experiment with the different AA parameters available in your driver control panel) and instead go with a greater than 100% 3D resolution (i.e. Super Sampling/Full Screen AA). Worth a try anyway.

[Gruman 123]

@benjibb

Ah, yes, dont forget to disable VSINC... Its screws on ATI Cards.

Would you take a screenshot of your Videosettings and post them here? Maybe we missed something.

@VILAS...

Vista is Not Windows 7... Completly different Story... Win7 is at least as fast as Win XP was with all the new stuff added...

[benjibb 10]

Based on my experience with ATI (HD4870 1GB) you should disable AA (or at least experiment with the different AA parameters available in your driver control panel) and instead go with a greater than 100% 3D resolution (i.e. Super Sampling/Full Screen AA). Worth a try anyway.

yup AA is already off in the driver settings.

@swissMAG

I can't remember if i turned off vysnc pretty sure i did. I think its still application controlled, is there an option for it in OA?

[benjibb 10]

its so annoying because im a big fan of project reality for bf2 and this game looks amazing as a miltary simulator :(

[Sintacks 10]

Try an Nvidia graphics card. I had the same issues when I thought I was doing myself a favour going from 2 GTX 280s to an HD5970. Even with my modest rig I had the worst performance. Way worse than 2 less powerful vid cards. I switched back to Nvidia and I am in heaven even in Cherno. Pretty much 50-60 fps anywhere with anything going on and 30 solid in Cherno.

[benjibb 10]

To be honest i dont really fancy buying another gcard or set of cards just for one game. So its a problem with ATI cards then.... ?

[metalcraze 290]

I dunno man. You can see my PC in my sig and it's much slower than yours

1680x1050, I have everything on high, except for ground detail which is medium and PP is very low (and only because I hate how everything gets blurred on anything higher). View distance 3km, no AA - the FPS is quite good (30-50) even on Chernarus, let alone Takistan (where I can play with low AA and get the same FPS)

FPS drops to 20-something only when there are a lot of AIs running around which is to be expected, considering that other games handle 10-20 AIs at max and ArmA2 handles hundreds of them.

[maddogx 13]

@benjibb

Here are some general tips to improve performance while maintaining good visual quality. I haven't read through the whole thread, so excuse any duplicate tips given.

1. Find the shortcut you use to start the game. Locate the input field marked "Target". It should contain text looking something like this:

"C:\Program Files\Bohemia Interactive\Arma 2\arma2oa.exe"

The actual line will of course vary. Anyway, you can try adding some startup parameters here behind the main shortcut line. For your rig, -exThreads=7 and -cpuCount=4 seem appropriate. Change the start line like this:

"C:\Program Files\Bohemia Interactive\Arma 2\arma2oa.exe" -exThreads=7 -cpuCount=4

You could also add -noSplash and -skipIntro to those if you want. Just make sure to keep a space between all parameters.

2. Make sure your two resolutions in the game are identical (3D resolution = 100%).

3. Keep your view distance below 6km.

4. Under advanced video settings, I would recommend setting terrain detail to normal, object detail to normal, postprocessing to low, HDR to high and VSync to off.

5. Defrag the hard disk that Arma2 resides on, even if it is a fast one.

I hope some of these help.