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Obama is a terrorist? Gosh darn, I knew it all along!

Again....dint mention obamas name. I love it how people like you jump to conclusion on everyone. If you haven't noticed recently the government has been putting in fear into its citizens through illegal searches at the airports, it has been harassing them, and doing illegal search on civilians in the streets. They have been limiting freedoms, and turning America more and more into a police state, if you cant see that, then you truly are blind to the truth, and deserve to get lied to.

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If your fine handing over your freedoms to a terrorist government to protect you, then you deserve what you get. Me, i would rather defend myself, and my family, instead of relying on the government. But i guess in the end, there is always people who would rather live on their knees then die on their feet.
So in fact you want to tell us that most europeans live under a dictatorship just because of the strict arms law? C’mon be serious I had been to th US in the recent years...since 2002 it feels like a police state to me, even more strict than the GDR ever was, and thats for sure not because of your arms law. Edited by Beagle

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Again....dint mention obamas name. I love it how people like you jump to conclusion on everyone. If you haven't noticed recently the government has been putting in fear into its citizens through illegal searches at the airports, it has been harassing them, and doing illegal search on civilians in the streets. They have been limiting freedoms, and turning America more and more into a police state, if you cant see that, then you truly are blind to the truth, and deserve to get lied to.

You call your own government terrorists. Then you accuse me of jumping to conclusions before elaborating further on how you think your government are terrorists. Lolwut?

Also, you never told us which illustrious crue of gun-toting yokels you belong to.

C'ome be serious I had been to th US in the recent years...since 2002 it feels like a police state to me,

Agreed. I'd waiver the right to own a gazillion M16s than have something like the PATRIOT act.

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If your fine handing over your freedoms to a terrorist government to protect you, then you deserve what you get. Me, i would rather defend myself, and my family, instead of relying on the government. But i guess in the end, there is always people who would rather live on their knees then die on their feet.

If not in America, in the civilized world, you are in the minority. This kind of thinking only comes out of the United States, and know that it seems not only belligerent, but also alien, and highly ignorant. This skipping record that American gun lobbyist play is cringe-worthy for people in other cultures. It is patent ridiculousness. It is precisely the culture you come from that makes you require- if you do at all- free access to firearms at all times. This post is so idiotic that it must be a troll post. How can anyone call the current US administration a terrorist government? Every time I hear this or someone on CNN call Obama a socialist I have a hard time laughing through the gagging.

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If not in America, in the civilized world, you are in the minority. This kind of thinking only comes out of the United States, and know that it seems not only belligerent, but also alien, and highly ignorant. This skipping record that American gun lobbyist play is cringe-worthy for people in other cultures. It is patent ridiculousness. It is precisely the culture you come from that makes you require- if you do at all- free access to firearms at all times. This post is so idiotic that it must be a troll post. How can anyone call the current US administration a terrorist government? Every time I hear this or someone on CNN call Obama a socialist I have a hard time laughing through the gagging.

And your from the European country where you are brainwashed to be a pacifist, and be scared to fight for anything.

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Hah, I'll keep my guns, thanks. Call me a "nut" or what have you, I'm perfectly sane. If you don't like us having guns then tough shit, we have them, and we'll keep them. Regarding actually defending freedom or my country with them if it ever came to that, I'd rather have them and not need them then need them and not have them.

You stay in your culture calling us arrogant, paranoid, garbage and we'll stay in ours calling you arrogant, stuck up, trash. Sure didn't take long to turn this one into an America-bash/touchy political subject cat-fight did it? Just remember, you are just as wrong about the people you bash as the people you bash are about you. Oh cool, you've been to the U.S. you must be an expert on everything America, I've been to Europe, I must be too.

-_- Internets, lol.

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Hah, I'll keep my guns, thanks. Call me a "nut" or what have you, I'm perfectly sane. If you don't like us having guns then tough shit, we have them, and we'll keep them. Regarding actually defending freedom or my country with them if it ever came to that, I'd rather have them and not need them then need them and not have them.

You stay in your culture calling us arrogant, paranoid, garbage and we'll stay in ours calling you arrogant, stuck up, trash. Sure didn't take long to turn this one into an America-bash/touchy political subject cat-fight did it? Just remember, you are just as wrong about the people you bash as the people you bash are about you. Oh cool, you've been to the U.S. you must be an expert on everything America, I've been to Europe, I must be too.

-_- Internets, lol.

I think you summed it all up 100% accurate, there is no need further to argue with people who hate Americans, and get off insulting us over the Internet.

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I'm not from a European country, but thanks. I thought Christmas was the season we're supposed to make Snowmen, not strawmen. I think if you'll check back on my posts, you will see that I was hoping he gets to keep control of whatever rightful property he owns, firearms included. At any rate, if making a weak caricature of the ideas you're presented with, while failing to addressed any points raised, is the way you justify your opinions, I agree. Further discussion is pointless, so why don't you call everyone haters and then storm out? Oh wait, you already did that. LOL.

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While it may seem that way, if my post was aimed solely at you, I would have quoted you directly.

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Are you addressing me or Peterprice? My post was responding solely to him.

...and since you aren't quoting anyone in that post, are you aiming that comment 'solely' at everybody? :p

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Are you addressing me or Peterprice? My post was responding solely to him.

...and since you aren't quoting anyone in that post, are you aiming that comment 'solely' at everybody? :p

Oi, touche. And my answer to that is... yes. :D

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America a police state? Well damn sure it is. Bush turned it into one. Just look how many peoples rights have been abandoned in the fight against terrorism.

I think the second US Pressident had a famous quote on that, i just can't remember it right.

I have nothing against People who own firearms as long as they are sane enough to not hurt anybody with them. There are lots of examples where many people have firearms at home without anything happening. Switzerland for example has many armed citizens, I think the percentage is way higher than in Germany. The country where I am from (Croatia) has also many many people with (unregistered) heavy firearms at home due to the war in the 90s.

But still it works. People don't go crazy and shoot each other (well usually not, as long as it doesn't have something to do with ptst)

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America a police state just because of a firearm ban? Well, surely you guys haven't been to the eastern side of the world....We are still struggling with freedom of speech my friend.

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Where in Ontario do you live? I want to make sure that I never drive through there.

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No america is on a good way to become a police state because of this irrational paranoia and fear from terrorists

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+10

And the attribution of the word 'terrorist' to everything and everyone by the media.

I want to know where this was as well. I wanted to see more photos of the gun cache but I couldn't really find anything. Is this the story about a man named Saif Cathum? He's up on 35 charges. :p

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Saif Cathum? That sounds like he could be a muslim. Folowing the thoughts of some american Politicians muslim=terrorist->Burn him

Thank god there are still enough sane americans out there....(at least I think so)

I really don´t know whats going on with some American citizens (I know there are other nations around that are even crazier) but lets take for example immigration.

Lets look at the mexican border. There are many Americans who go like that "I don´t want these filthy immigrants to be in my country! This is my Country! My grandfather came here from Ireland......" you get the drift....

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Oh, I'm sorry, perhaps you didn't read that right. I don't recall saying you're a member of anything. I was talking about the influence of gun nut lobbyists. Perhaps you can reread what I wrote and comment on that.

I love gun nut lobbyists.

In fact.. I am one!

Go America. You chaps have the right idea.

I live in a police state. I can't help thinking that the police would needlessly interfere with us a lot less if everyone here had a gun.

Most people in my country aren't even aware that they have a legal right to own one.

Edited by Baff1

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And your from the European country where you are brainwashed to be a pacifist, and be scared to fight for anything.

No need to fight anything as long as i get my money to the bank account and my beer in the supermarket.

What are you fighting? Neighbors trying to invite you to their BBQ?

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I love gun nut lobbyists.

In fact.. I am one!

Go America. You chaps have the right idea.

I live in a police state. I can't help thinking that the police would needlessly interfere with us a lot less if everyone here had a gun.

Most people in my country aren't even aware that they have a legal right to own one.

Being a gun rights advocate is not being a gun nut lobbyist. I mean, you could be a gun nut lobbyist... you could be someone who calls everyone sheep while speaking almost exclusively in worn out platitudes... you could base your decisions on an extreme form of libertarian rhetoric while neglecting not only the statistics found in scientific studies, but his own safety... you could be the kind of person that bases his political opinions on both mass paranoia and power fantasies... but I think unless you're paying close attention to these issues in America, you probably don't know what I'm talking about.

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I'm a lobbyist. I pettitoned my MP for gun onwers rights.

Sent him chocolates when he did a good job.

That counts as lobbying right?

I'm not sure that I really take politics very seriously however. It's more for entertainment value with me.

I am henpecked. I base my decisions on whatever my mother my sister or my Mrs explains to me that I must do.

The guys at the local gunshop all love me.

I carry a gun most of the day (and night). I Sleep with one too. I'm paranoid about my personal safety and the safety of my family.

I think it's justifiable paranoia, I used to have a special panic button alarm direct to the local cop shop for example and I get robbed a lot.

The law says I am allowed to use my gun in self defence, but the police have advised me not to mention self defence in the media.

I keep sheep! But I'm not really following you so I guess I'm not up enough on U.S. politics. I'm upto date on British politics and gun law however.

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Not all lobbyists are nuts, and not all nuts are lobbyists. I think sleeping with a loaded gun does count as nuts, though. If you are concerned about criminals crawling into bed with you and murdering you before you have a chance to awaken, I would suggest perhaps investing in a loud alarm system and keeping the weapon locked properly in a drawer next to you and sleeping with the key (if needs be).

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America a police state? Well damn sure it is. Bush turned it into one. Just look how many peoples rights have been abandoned in the fight against terrorism.

I think the second US Pressident had a famous quote on that, i just can't remember it right.

I have nothing against People who own firearms as long as they are sane enough to not hurt anybody with them. There are lots of examples where many people have firearms at home without anything happening. Switzerland for example has many armed citizens, I think the percentage is way higher than in Germany. The country where I am from (Croatia) has also many many people with (unregistered) heavy firearms at home due to the war in the 90s.

But still it works. People don't go crazy and shoot each other (well usually not, as long as it doesn't have something to do with ptst)

i think you need to take a step back and gain some perspective. people throw around buzzwords like police state and fascism without any idea of what these words mean. at the end of the day, i can do a lot more without getting caught in the us, then i can, say in most european countries. in fact, i don't think you germans get to call anyone else's government a police state if your own government won't even allow its citizens free speech. :rolleyes:

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)rStrangelove;1818036']No need to fight anything as long as i get my money to the bank account and my beer in the supermarket.

What are you fighting? Neighbors trying to invite you to their BBQ?

So enjoy your beer and pointless pay. Police forces on every major trainstation with fullauto mp's will protect you...

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