Russian Military Blows Up Its Own Weaponry

[abs 2]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11511886

I LOL'd but they're pretty cool. :)

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[SD_BOB 10]

Operation Fortitude anyone?? Not really a new concept..... Effective though.

[myshaak 0]

Operation Fortitude anyone?? Not really a new concept..... Effective though.

Exactly, it came to mind almost immediately. Although I would imagine that those money could have been spent better nowdays.

[TomatoArden 0]

Hmm, it seems like a good idea to do it agin. The Russian military is seriously lacking modern equipment so they need any tactical advantage they can get in a war. Maybe they can start selling it to other countries as well :p

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-1150579 video

Edited October 11, 2010 by TomatoArden

[4 IN 1 0]

Hmm, it seems like a good idea to do it agin. The Russian military is seriously lacking modern equipment so they need any tactical advantage they can get in a war. Maybe they can start selling it to other countries as well :p

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-1150579 video

No they cant, because china made blow up mocks are much cheaper:p

[b0b 10]

Playing too much RUSE FTW :D

[SteveJA 12]

On the news this morning, they said that these blow up tanks cost one tenth of the price of the real thing. The thing is . . .

1 real tank = 10 blow up tanks :cool:

??????

[SD_BOB 10]

:D i'm guessing that was a bit of wrong information then. Either that or the Kremlin really has gone off the deep end.

Good job we still have bayonets eh...

"Charge that tank chaps!!"

Edited October 11, 2010 by Shadow.D. ^BOB^

[maturin 12]

They should put generators in them to try and mimic the heat distribution for IR. Seeing an entire region littered with tunguskas, half fake, half not, would play havoc with your planning.

[Daniel 0]

They should put generators in them to try and mimic the heat distribution for IR. Seeing an entire region littered with tunguskas, half fake, half not, would play havoc with your planning.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11511886

They are also very realistic. They are made of a special material that tricks enemy radar and thermal imaging into thinking they are real weapons.

I reckon these have potential as ArmA2 addons for conventional conflicts. Would certainly make SEAD and reconnaissance missions more "interesting". They'd even make good purchases in Warfare games, forcing enemy aircraft to engage fake targets, using up their ordnance and increasing survivability of your real batteries...

Also, the report states they're one hundred times cheaper than the real thing, which sounds a little more reasonable.

Edited October 11, 2010 by Daniel

[Dwarden 1124]

this is quite old but it's really used by several armies already

these fake models have correct proportions, TI and EM signature as real counterparts

(i heard they also now trying to keep UV signature which is now detected by new sensor complets)

with proper painting even MW and Gamma rays etc would be fooled ...

definitely nice cheap way how claim 'we got nice equipment somewhere in countryside'

[Tonci87 163]

Its the oldest game of the world: Fool your Enemy!

Its a really great Idea, the Enemy will use up his ammo on this Things instead of the real ones, or he won´t even Attack at a certain point, because he believes that it is really good defended. So you can force the Enemy to attack a spot that he thinks has weak defenses, but in fact there are your real guns waiting for him

[ben_s 11]

So, if they shoot it, will it pop? :D

[sparks50 0]

I want to bring one of these to the beach.

[Tonci87 163]

Would be pure WIN

[vasmkd 12]

Truth is these bring up the cost of the missles, bombs for the bigger military spenders.

Why do u guys think in Kosovo the serbs hardly lost any military equipment and NATO had to target civillian infrastructure.

thousands of sorties and just a few destroyed tanks, imagine they tried invading russia LOL.

Whatever the country being fooled by dummies spends on a missles is really going to cost many times higher for a succesful hit.

When u think of the cost of the dummy and the cost of wasted missles this invention is one of the best things ever.

Read here:

The Times (London), June 24, 1999, Thursday

Nato dropped thousands of bombs on dummy roads, bridges and soldiers...and

hit only 13 real Serb tanks

Michael Evans, defence editor, in Pristina

NATO'S 79-day bombing campaign against Yugoslavia, which involved thousands

of sorties and some of the most sophisticated precision weapons, succeeded

in damaging only 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo, despite

alliance claims of large-scale destruction of Belgrade's heavy armour.

With Nato's Kosovo Force (Kfor) now spread out into every area of the

province, troops from all the different nationalities taking part in the

peacekeeping operation have been searching for destroyed or damaged tanks

and artillery. They have, so far, come across only three crippled tanks.

During the air campaign, elaborate claims were made by Nato officials that

hundreds of Serb tanks, artillery pieces, mortars and armoured personnel

carriers had been struck. It was also suggested this was one of the main

reasons why President Milosevic decided to cave in and agree to a ceasefire

and the deployment of a large international peace-keeping force in Kosovo.

Now some Nato officials are baffled about why he did surrender.

It was claimed that up to 60 per cent of Serb artillery and mortar pieces

had been hit and about 40 per cent of the Yugoslav Army's main battle tanks

had been damaged or destroyed. There were even reports of an attack by B52

bombers on a Serb brigade which was drawn out into the open by Kosovo

Liberation Army fighters, leading to the death of up to 700 Serb soldiers.

However, before the Serbs finally withdrew three days ago, they informed

Kfor that Nato had managed to hit 13 of the 300 or so tanks that they had

deployed in Kosovo - most of which have been removed from the province on

low-loaders.

Kfor troops have found just three damaged T55 tanks left behind in Kosovo.

"What we have found is a huge number of dummy tanks and artillery," one

Kfor source said.

The Yugoslav Army used well-practised Russian camouflage techniques which

involved placing dummies around the countryside, some of them next to dummy

bridges with strips of black plastic sheeting across fields as fake roads

to delude Nato bombers into thinking they had a prime target to hit. "When

you're travelling at 500mph at 15,000ft, it is easy to be fooled," another

Kfor source said.

When the Serbs finally withdrew from the province, at least 250 tanks were

counted out, as well as 450 armoured personnel carriers and 600 artillery

and mortar pieces.

Travelling around Kosovo, one sees many destroyed army barracks, state

police buildings and oil terminals, firm evidence that the Nato bombers

were successful in hitting these prime targets. However, apart from the

wrecks of a few trucks left behind by the Serbs, it is virtually impossible

to spot a destroyed tank.

© 1999, LEXIS®-NEXIS®, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Edited October 12, 2010 by vasmkd

[Tonci87 163]

Yes this is true, the NATO and the UN did really huge mistakes in their Yugoslavian campaign, not only this one. Tactics like this were used by Croatian and Serbian fighters during the war. I belive that the American Government didn´t realise that you can´t win a war only by bombardment

[maturin 12]

"baffled why he did surrender?"

Because the civilians in Belgrade weren't inflatables.

[vasmkd 12]

"baffled why he did surrender?"

Because the civilians in Belgrade weren't inflatables.

spot on with that

[bascule42 10]

...only problem I can see is if Russia's enemies start dropping inflatable bombs on these decoys. Or a lit cigarette.

[ben_s 11]

Inflatable bombs, in inflatable bombers, launched from inflatable aircraft carriers. The perfect disguise. :cool:

[abs 2]

I would just cover the area in radioactive sludge....see which units move.

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[Inkompetent 0]

I love Russia and all their subterfurge-stuff! It's hardly a new thing with decoys, but I love how Russia likes to put all these things into a vastly industrial scale.

Then their stuff with cruise missile launchers concealed as ordinary freight containers and stuff like that. Good luck fighting an enemy you can't see!

And indeed as vasmkd posted it has already been shown how brutally effective decoys can be.

[Luke.S 10]

I want one. Just put an AA gun up in my garden. Wonder how long till the RAF got the crap scared out of them

[ben_s 11]

I want one. Just put an AA gun up in my garden. Wonder how long till the RAF got the crap scared out of them

More like see how long before theres an apache floating outside your bedroom window. :D