klubargutan 11 Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) well why cant 105mm destroy a tank???, wtf????, otherwise, awesome mod Edited July 23, 2011 by Klubargutan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UGLY58 10 Posted July 23, 2011 Klubargutan, I don`t believe the AC-130 has a Anti-Tank round, it uses an artillery round which by its very nature is a blast/frag munition. If it was to direct hit through top armour, maybe you could get a "destroying" kill. More likely is to suppress and bounce shrapnel all over the tank, maybe take a track or optics out with the blast, but unlikely you would get a full kill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klubargutan 11 Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) Klubargutan,I don`t believe the AC-130 has a Anti-Tank round, it uses an artillery round which by its very nature is a blast/frag munition. If it was to direct hit through top armour, maybe you could get a "destroying" kill. More likely is to suppress and bounce shrapnel all over the tank, maybe take a track or optics out with the blast, but unlikely you would get a full kill. well it needs 2 direct hits to destroy tank...DIRECT...so for that enable max zoom 10 :).....but 105 mm can destroy tank with 1 hit, cant it? Edited July 23, 2011 by Klubargutan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kremator 1065 Posted July 23, 2011 The 105mm is an arty round. The 40mm is a grenade type round. So I'm not surprised that it takes direct hits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LurchiDerLurch 10 Posted August 2, 2011 Hello me again the project is not dead ;) I just had no time ... but currently I'm working on an improved multiplayer script. It's almost finished. I also need 2 guys who are willing to test this new script online as soon as it's done. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kremator 1065 Posted August 2, 2011 Good to hear mate ! Still running the old bird over the skies of Takistan and it is DEVASTATING ! I run the script version to great effect. You know that I can test for you, local and dedi :) I'll be your AC130 BIATCH ! Good to see you back. Krem PS I'm away on holiday for a week on Thursday however :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UGLY58 10 Posted August 2, 2011 Lurch, The only issue I have with this script is if the player I give the ability to make the call for AC-130 support is killed he looses the ability on re-spawn. I did find a way round it by addaction on a SOFLAM or UAV backpack which seemed one way to do it. Finally I do get the AI manned AC-130 lagging in the sky visually on its orbit. Always have a crowd willing to test this for you. As for the MQ-9 stuff, check you PM`s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LurchiDerLurch 10 Posted August 3, 2011 Lurch,The only issue I have with this script is if the player I give the ability to make the call for AC-130 support is killed he looses the ability on re-spawn. I did find a way round it by addaction on a SOFLAM or UAV backpack which seemed one way to do it. Finally I do get the AI manned AC-130 lagging in the sky visually on its orbit. Always have a crowd willing to test this for you. As for the MQ-9 stuff, check you PM`s The mission maker will have to take care of the actions attached to the players... I think it would be too confusing if I would add an killed-eventhandler into my script... The backpack is a good idea. If you want I could add an AC-130-Backpack into the AddOn version. ;) Lagging was always a problem of this CPU-intensive script... especially in MP. That's why I'm working on an improved version ;) "a crowd willing to test" sounds great. I will get in touch with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UGLY58 10 Posted August 3, 2011 The backpack is a good idea. If you want I could add an AC-130-Backpack into the AddOn version. ;) Lurch, Actually what would be better than a back pack would be a laptop. Both these aircraft are Video Down Link (VDL) capable colloquially know as "Rover" capable. So seeing their point of view from a laptop type screen would be more realistic. Rover 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeyCat 131 Posted August 4, 2011 (edited) Nice to see this awesome script/addon still alive! Just wonder if you found any new clues regarding the wierd AI behavior (see post #331) in SP and when host is using UAV/AC-130? Looking forward to whatever update you may release... /KC Edited August 30, 2011 by KeyCat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LurchiDerLurch 10 Posted August 4, 2011 Lurch,Actually what would be better than a back pack would be a laptop. Both these aircraft are Video Down Link (VDL) capable colloquially know as "Rover" capable. So seeing their point of view from a laptop type screen would be more realistic. Rover 5 but a laptop would be static... so it would make no difference if a mission maker places a laptop with the action or if he places the ac130-laptop where the action is attached from scratch. @KeyCat: I'm afraid not... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LorenLuke 11 Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) @LDL: Looking at the latest version with a bit of playtesting I noticed something and wanted to ask you about it. The ammo counts for the ordinance seems to be a tad on the low side (real AC130s carry I believe 3000x25mm, 256x40mm, 50x105mm 100x105mm, have to check with my cousin on that ;)). The 25mm cannon seems to fire slow... it's a Gau-12 equaliser that fires at ~ 1800 rpm, with your delay of .05 seconds it can fire no faster than 1200 rpm assuming was no script lag, an adjustment to 'sleep .0035' appears to correct this to ~1800 with script lag. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-12_Equalizer#Development Lastly, Would it be possible to shift to a toggleable weapons system? e.g.: If you have the 25mm and the 40mm toggled, they will both fire together as fast as each can muster without any need to switch weapons. I know all these statements likely seem like nagging, but I just wanted to supply this information to you for your consideration in the name of realism. I have no idea how these changes would affect playtesting or balance, and as such leave them to your discretion. I hope this input will be helpful to development. -Thanx, Luke Edited August 6, 2011 by LLukeL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeyCat 131 Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) I did some experimenting last night regarding the wierd AI issue in SP (or when the host is using the UAV/AC-130). I modified your script so I was setpos'ed close to the action (~100 m) before the UAV/AC-130 camera gets active but still the same, the AI just ignore armoured threats? So the "theory" that the AI could act like this if the player is far away is busted. Damn, this ruins this awesome script and I wished I could find an explanation for this behavior. Not pointing fingers at you Lurchi since I think this wierd AI behavior must be an engine issue... lets hope some of the smarter brains around here can explain why it's happening.... If anyone is up to the task see my earlier post for descripton and a repro mission... http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=1794255&postcount=331 And to add, if the repromission is runned on a dedicated server the AI performs like it should (i.e they engage the BMP's) it's only in SP or when host is using the UAV/AC-130 they ignore them. /KC Edited August 7, 2011 by KeyCat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LurchiDerLurch 10 Posted August 7, 2011 @LDL:Looking at the latest version with a bit of playtesting I noticed something and wanted to ask you about it. The ammo counts for the ordinance seems to be a tad on the low side (real AC130s carry I believe 3000x25mm, 256x40mm, 50x105mm 100x105mm, have to check with my cousin on that ;)). The 25mm cannon seems to fire slow... it's a Gau-12 equaliser that fires at ~ 1800 rpm, with your delay of .05 seconds it can fire no faster than 1200 rpm assuming was no script lag, an adjustment to 'sleep .0035' appears to correct this to ~1800 with script lag. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-12_Equalizer#Development Lastly, Would it be possible to shift to a toggleable weapons system? e.g.: If you have the 25mm and the 40mm toggled, they will both fire together as fast as each can muster without any need to switch weapons. I know all these statements likely seem like nagging, but I just wanted to supply this information to you for your consideration in the name of realism. I have no idea how these changes would affect playtesting or balance, and as such leave them to your discretion. I hope this input will be helpful to development. -Thanx, Luke Thanks for your suggestions ;) I try to implement as many of them as possible. But I'll have to keep realism and gameplay in balance... the AC130 is dangerous enough at the moment ^^ But you're always free to change the default values (ammunition etc.) ;) @KeyCat: thanks for testing... weird weird... but I think it's engine based... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
csimami 10 Posted August 9, 2011 cant get it working if i start a game with the C 130 -> SPECTRE<- i am getting this error : LDL Init not initialized or 'LDL AC-130 Init' ('Logics' -> 'LDL Logics') missing PS:I am using tha addon method with the @LDL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LurchiDerLurch 10 Posted August 9, 2011 Place the "LDL AC-130 Init" (Editor: "Logics" -> "LDL Logics")..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
csimami 10 Posted August 10, 2011 Place the "LDL AC-130 Init" (Editor: "Logics" -> "LDL Logics")..... sorry i dont get it :( my english is too worst because i am from germany Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickboy 13 Posted August 10, 2011 sorry i dont get it :( my english is too worst because i am from germany http://www.internetpolyglot.com/lessons-de-en http://www.google.com/translate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LurchiDerLurch 10 Posted August 10, 2011 sorry i dont get it :( my english is too worst because i am from germany german: das ist das geringeste problem weil ich auch deutsch kann ^^ du musst einfach die "LDL AC-130 Init" im editor platzieren, wie jedes andere objekt auch. das sollte bei den Logiken unter LDL Logics zu finden sein. Sofern du das AddOn richtig installiert hast. english: I hope it's ok if I explained it to him in german ;) Oh and at the experts: Aren't the IR Strobes meant to be seen with NVG or FLIR enabled? Because the ones from my script can only be seen WITHOUT flir ^^ I'll have to think about a solution for that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweguy96 10 Posted August 10, 2011 Oh and at the experts: Aren't the IR Strobes meant to be seen with NVG or FLIR enabled? Because the ones from my script can only be seen WITHOUT flir ^^ I'll have to think about a solution for that... I have seen the IR strobes in FLIR and NVG. Strange... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
csimami 10 Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) german: das ist das geringeste problem weil ich auch deutsch kann ^^ du musst einfach die "LDL AC-130 Init" im editor platzieren, wie jedes andere objekt auch. das sollte bei den Logiken unter LDL Logics zu finden sein. Sofern du das AddOn richtig installiert hast. english: I hope it's ok if I explained it to him in german ;) Oh and at the experts: Aren't the IR Strobes meant to be seen with NVG or FLIR enabled? Because the ones from my script can only be seen WITHOUT flir ^^ I'll have to think about a solution for that... Oh i found it... i were looking for the LDL AC130 in "Module"(F7) :butbut: my bad. Thanks for your great help.;) DANKE SCHÖÖÖN :p PS: "Lastly, Would it be possible to shift to a toggleable weapons system? e.g.: If you have the 25mm and the 40mm toggled, they will both fire together as fast as each can muster without any need to switch weapons." Das wäre cool wenn du das einfügen könntest wenn ja gibts ein großzügiges Donate an dich ;) Edited August 10, 2011 by csimami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horton 10 Posted August 11, 2011 I'm not sure if it's possible but do you HAVE to have the addon for this? Is there a simple script that allows this without the addon? :> ---------- Post added at 02:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:12 AM ---------- Oh i found it... i were looking for the LDL AC130 in "Module"(F7) :butbut: my bad.Thanks for your great help.;) DANKE SCHÖÖÖN :p PS: "Lastly, Would it be possible to shift to a toggleable weapons system? e.g.: If you have the 25mm and the 40mm toggled, they will both fire together as fast as each can muster without any need to switch weapons." Das wäre cool wenn du das einfügen könntest wenn ja gibts ein großzügiges Donate an dich ;) I think this would actually ruin the aspect of the zoom. As the 40mm doesn't have the same Zoom as the 105 and 20mm. If you'd be able to fire 20mm and 40mm at the same time, either the zoom would be to overpowered or lesser because of the zoom :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LurchiDerLurch 10 Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) I'm not sure if it's possible but do you HAVE to have the addon for this? Is there a simple script that allows this without the addon? :> Every version comes with a sample mission for the addon and the script. But remember with the addon you have: - New shells (bigger explosions) - Logics available for the editor The shift-25mm-40mm thing: Maybe if I have time ^^ Optional is always possible and I want to have as much people as possible to have fun with my script and customize it their way ;) Edited August 11, 2011 by LurchiDerLurch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CyclonicTuna 87 Posted August 12, 2011 I would like to know if there's any progress on a model for this addon. I really want it :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LurchiDerLurch 10 Posted August 13, 2011 I would like to know if there's any progress on a model for this addon. I really want it :) me too :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites