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ok just been through all 600 plus pages on mil photos and found a plethora of pictures showing different chest rigs, pouches and vests. Here are my questions please respond and give me some clarification guys.

I am going to do a wide variety of units...like probably another 100+ variants, camo patches, helmets, vests etc so i really need to know.

Ok i understand the vest i have on my guys right now is the older type but it still seems like a lot of guys (particularly KCT and Marines in afghan) are wearing it.

My question is for the new vest is it like this:

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or like this? (this second one i think is a tactical vest which leads me on to my 2nd question).

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do you guys do what the belgian army does and wearing a ballistic vest (i.e. the first pic) and then put that 2nd vest over the top or are you just wearing the first vest? any help i much appreciated i don't want to waste a day making a vest that is innacurate or that you guys dont use!

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i believe your dutch units arent realy compatible with the new beta patch 9645

there is a error in my rpt file saying:

Old style material flags used - 4 (with texture a2020_dutch_infantry\data\gl_co.paa)

Warning: Unsupported UVSet 2

tought ill let u know

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i'll look into it, if thats the case i would imagine many of my other addons won't work either...great.

Any news on the vest question above?

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RPT:


=====================================================================
== C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\arma 2\beta\arma2.exe
== "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\arma 2\beta\arma2.exe" -nosplash -world=empty -maxmem=2047 -cpucount=4 -mod=@Dutch;beta 
=====================================================================
Exe timestamp: 2010/04/23 09:03:35
Current time:  2010/04/25 15:41:50

Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_Soldier/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_Soldier_Light/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_Soldier2/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_Soldier_GL/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_Soldier_TL/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_AT_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_Soldier_AT/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_Soldier_Medic/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_Soldier_AR/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_Soldier_MG/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_SoldierM_Marksman/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_SoldierS/
Updating base class ->USMC_Soldier_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/USMC_SoldierS_Engineer/
Updating base class ->FR_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/FR_TL/
Updating base class ->FR_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/FR_Commander/
Updating base class ->FR_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/FR_R/
Updating base class ->FR_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/FR_Marksman/
Updating base class ->FR_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/FR_Light/
Updating base class ->FR_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/FR_Corpsman/
Updating base class ->FR_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/FR_GL/
Updating base class ->FR_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/FR_Sapper/
Updating base class ->FR_Base, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/FR_AC/
Updating base class ->FR_R, by ca\characters2\config.bin/CfgVehicles/FR_Assault_R/
Exe version: 1.05.69645
Warning: Unsupported UVSet 2
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 484, 490, 553
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 491, 553, 490
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 483, 489, 484
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 490, 484, 489
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 482, 488, 483
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 489, 483, 488
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 481, 487, 482
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 488, 482, 487
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 480, 486, 481
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 487, 481, 486
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 492, 485, 490
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 489, 488, 490
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 488, 487, 490
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 487, 486, 492
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 490, 487, 492
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 490, 485, 491
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 554, 537, 532
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 536, 532, 537
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 532, 536, 531
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 535, 531, 536
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 531, 535, 530
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 534, 530, 535
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 530, 534, 529
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 533, 529, 534
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 529, 533, 480
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 486, 480, 533
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 492, 536, 485
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 535, 536, 534
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 534, 536, 533
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 533, 492, 486
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 536, 492, 533
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 536, 537, 485
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 485, 537, 542
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 544, 542, 537
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 485, 542, 491
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 543, 491, 542
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 491, 543, 539
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 545, 539, 543
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 541, 546, 537
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 544, 537, 546
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 554, 540, 537
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 541, 537, 540
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 491, 539, 553
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 538, 553, 539
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 539, 545, 548
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 547, 548, 545
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 538, 539, 549
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 548, 549, 539
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 541, 540, 551
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 550, 551, 540
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 546, 541, 552
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 551, 552, 541
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 1359, 1576, 1650
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:1 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 1359, 1355, 1576
Warning: Unsupported UVSet 2
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:2 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 528, 527, 530
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:2 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 943, 1106, 1089
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:2 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 943, 939, 1106
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:3 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 311, 310, 313
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:3 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 613, 721, 712
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:3: 2nd UV set needed, but not defined
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:4 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 636, 639, 657
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:4 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 660, 659, 641
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:4 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 659, 662, 641
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:4 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 657, 639, 661
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:4 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 303, 361, 353
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:4: 2nd UV set needed, but not defined
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:5 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 317, 320, 326
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:5 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 329, 328, 322
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:5 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 328, 331, 322
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:5 Error while trying to generate ST for points: 326, 320, 330
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:5: 2nd UV set needed, but not defined
Warning: Unsupported UVSet 2
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:VIEW_PILOT Error while trying to generate ST for points: 519, 736, 810
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:VIEW_PILOT Error while trying to generate ST for points: 519, 515, 736
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:VIEW_PILOT Error while trying to generate ST for points: 2884, 3291, 3736
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:VIEW_PILOT Error while trying to generate ST for points: 2359, 1952, 2804
Warning: special LOD contains 2nd UV set.
Warnings in a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:10000
Warning: a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d: Selection osobnost needs a section. The shadow volume may not work well.
Warnings in a2020_dutch_infantry\nl_medic.p3d:11000
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thanks for the test animal...looks like i've got some work to do, will get the visuals right first then work on fixing the error.

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They look really nice I must say. Was waiting for this. Something what would be awesome if you made sepperate units with the barets on. That will give them alot of personality.

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those errors shouldn't be there if you binarized the addon. esp the

Error while trying to generate ST Points for...

also, just run through and delete UV sets you don't use, i know you're using 2048x2048 textures because i helped you make them and the UV maps i did are in 2048x2048 so you only need one. get with me on skype, we'll go through it.

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Yeh i got the uv thing figured before, so thats all fixed now anyway. Looks like this should be an easy fix for next release.

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Including new chest rig and tac vest as well as re worked textures, new pockets (still not 100%)...have lots more things to work on

Please note i am a simple texture artist and my modelling skills are very basic. Custom parts of these models were donated to me. If anyone would like to help on this project please let me know :D.

earlywipchestsupportand.th.jpg

earlywipchestsupportand.th.jpg

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nice work on the chestrig an opsvest over the bodyarmour!

nobody really uses the straps on the bodyarmour to place their kit because you have to wear your BA all the time outside the wire but dont have to wear the chestrig when on gaurdduty or when in the gunner position of a vehicle.

The marines I saw last time over there all got the warrior assault chestrigs (http://warriorassaultsystems.com/acatalog/Chest_Rigs.html) could have been bought by them selves though..

They wore green camo (old US woodland) even in the dasht.

as for helmets nobody uses the helmet cover because they dont fit the rabitex, a saw a few with a neat build on NVG mount.

the marines use the LOWA (LMG) instead of the minimi para (SAW) and for the GPMG the FN MAG (M240)

all the deployed marines use the C8 with RIS, Grippod and Eclan/Aimpont comp4 + 3xmagnifiër

the snipers have an coyote tan Accuracy AWM, the Barrett m90 and the HK417 with silencer.

I must ad I am with the RNLArmy and not RNLMarines so I dont want to offend any "fishsticks" ;-) with wrong info.

In your Dutch Army addon I had the problem that it replaced my USMC sniper and other units. I really loved the addon but this was enought for me to get rid of it. sorry man!

hope this helps!

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Thanks for the info...if you don't want it to replace your units then don't use the replacement packs :) it's as simple as that, you can simply remove them from the addon :D.

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ah didnt see that, my bad, I'll give it another go than :)

for the orginization of a marine riflegroup:

1 groupcommander(sargeant)

1 secondgroupcommander (corporal)

2LMG pairs (every pair 1 Diemaco LMG gunner + 1 Diemaco C7a1 rifleman)

1GPMG pair(1 FM MAG gunner + 1 Diemaco C7a1 rifleman with extra 7.62mm ammo)

total of 8 marines

Snipers are with the support company as are the 81mm mortars and anti-tank assets.

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Thanks you are providing most useful...also as you will notice on the new guys (i.e. the des guys i just posted) none of them have pouches attached to their vests, everything is on a belt or chest rig.

also if you look back there is a simple mock up of a marine with a rabinex on but more on them soon!

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great job, making it much more realistic and logical.

really nice to see the army units I can indentify myself with :)

hope I can answer more upcoming questions and pay my share to the community, I'll keep an eye on this topic in the future.

thanks for honoring our fighting men with this addon.

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I have someone working on it...so yes i think so :D...hopefully we will see some updates soon.

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Ok guys pockets are a little better now...anyway just some bonus shots for you to enjoy and a comparison between V3.0 (current release) and V5.0...oh and for those of you wondering what happened to 4.0? erm i got about 90% of the way done with it and didn't like it and scrapped it :(

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really good! chestrig is looking nice :)

very nice ISAF patch and sleeves a bit rolled up. really like the helmet edge showing the rubber attach system making these models very deatailed.

using your models again :) really nice KCT operators

a bit more info, hope it comes in handy..

in the army minimi gunners tend to use the opsvest more than the chestrig, and borrowing pockets from other guys to be able to carry more 200rnd drums.

maybe you could even use teh chestrigs you made for teh KCT guys for some of the riflemen. a lot of equipment is self bought.

the green nomex pilot gloves are provided by the DoD and are, like revision sawfly glases, manditory outside the wire.

when on patrol almost every unit uses green "hatch" kneepads issued by the DoD too, most guys only use em on their right knee because kneepads are issued every pair for 2 soldiers :s

Edited by pre-Vet
more info

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They keep looking better and better :)

EDIT:

Someone on our forums just found a video of a Dutch Mariniers unit clearing out a German ship that had been taken by Somalian pirates, viewed from a helmetcam:

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/931621/d7687197/piraten_vangen_first_person_shooter_style.html

Edited by SiC-Disaster

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the future for the dutch in arma2 is bright ;)

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ONCE SOME MORE ISSUES ARE DECIDED THE DUTCH ARMY MOD WILL BE RENAMED AND A NEW THREAD WILL BE CREATED IN THE WIP SECTION AS THE MOD WILL BE MORE ALL ENCOMPASSING THAN JUST THE DUTCH ARMY.

Gentlemen

I have exciting news...the Dutch Mod (name to be decided) is growing. I would like to welcome Rhodesy77 to the team. Rhodesy has joined to make some custom KCT models for the mod which i am pleased to be able to show an early WIP of. I hope you all join me in welcoming him to the team.

Just to clarify this started off as a project i was doing alone but along with Rhodesy we now have a small team of either modders or advisors (sometimes both). So i have included a team list below along with a little description of what they have contributed to the mod:

Aeneas2020: Models and Textures

Rhodesy: Working on the KCT

Raven DK: Helmet Webbing and now DDAM Weapons so we can have the Diemacos

Binkowski: My source for all my O2 questions and also the provider of the awesome base models that i based my work off of.

SWT_Janowich & Takko: Who are working on vehicles for the mod.

Darkhorse: Donated vehicle models

Lastly Dezzerx has offered to help out with configs, names and faces when the time to release gets near.

Anyway enough soppy stuff. Also new today is a very early WIP of the jungle units. They still need some work but it should give you an idea...enjoy:

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WIP KCT by Rhodesy

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Dutch Temperate V5.0 A2020

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Dutch Desert V5.0 A2020

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Dutch Jungle BETA 0.1 A2020

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Dutch Jungle BETA 0.1 A2020

p.s. the tanks in the pic of the temp guy are BWMod tanks (just in for eye candy) and are not in the Dutch mod...sorry we still need to get a Leopard2 from somewhere :P

Edited by Aeneas2020

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Wow... great news and great pictures. Also Aeneas, did you get my pm?

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