Leon86 13 Posted October 14, 2010 C300s are fantastic drives, I have 2 myself. Do you have them connected on sata 2 or sata 3? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted October 14, 2010 Do you have them connected on sata 2 or sata 3? SATA2, don't touch the Marvell - what you said was correct, the Intel RAID controller is superior to both Marvell (and Gigabyte) in my case :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5133p39 14 Posted October 14, 2010 That "tom's hardware" benchmark was meant as example - it was the first thing that popped out of my google search, and yes i hear a lot that tom's aren't what it used to be, so no arguing there.About the microstutter - i heard about it, but i never seen it (but of course it exists, but as you can see it depends...). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pvtpile1981 10 Posted October 14, 2010 Lo lads, I was wondering if upgrading from a Core 2 Duo 6700 to a Intel Core 2 Extreme 3GHz QX6850 would be worth it for ArmA II & OAH? Current spec. Windows XP pro. Core 2 Duo 6700 Oced to 3.0 ghz Zotac 9800 GT (latest Drivers) Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3LR Western Digital Black 600 gig HD PSU 550 Watt. 4 GiG DDR II PC 5300 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) Lo lads, I was wondering if upgrading from a Core 2 Duo 6700 to a Intel Core 2 Extreme 3GHz QX6850 would be worth it for ArmA II & OAH?Current spec. Windows XP pro. Core 2 Duo 6700 Oced to 3.0 ghz Zotac 9800 GT (latest Drivers) Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3LR Western Digital Black 600 gig HD PSU 550 Watt. 4 GiG DDR II PC 5300 Maybe a cheaper quad like a q6600 would be a better choice, look for secondhand ones, as all core2 production has stopped and new ones are overpriced. You managed to overclock the 6700 to 3Ghz, and with a q6600 you'll be able to do this as well. the "best" core2quad's of the series are the q9xxx series. Only problem is again they're not being made, so they're just as expensive as the far superior i7-860. Looking at your system you see that all components are starting to get outdated. Maybe it's better to just play at pretty low settings untill you have enough money to upgrade the cpu/mobo/ram and gpu. Edited October 14, 2010 by Leon86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pvtpile1981 10 Posted October 14, 2010 Yeah I know it is getting old now mate :(, I havn't really got the money to buy a whole new rig I just wanted a boast in performance for ArmA II because I dont even play it this now tbh. The extreme chip I was gonna get is 2nd hand and that's the only reason I was going to buy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted October 14, 2010 Yeah I know it is getting old now mate :(, I havn't really got the money to buy a whole new rig I just wanted a boast in performance for ArmA II because I dont even play it this now tbh.The extreme chip I was gonna get is 2nd hand and that's the only reason I was going to buy it. well, it is a quadcore and it'll probably overclock well, but for a real boost in performance you'll have to upgrade your gpu as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pvtpile1981 10 Posted October 15, 2010 I was thinking of saving for one of those Nvidia 460's my mate has one and has only said good things about it, maybe I could eventually play OA with him...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RSharpe 0 Posted October 15, 2010 Does anyone play ARMA2 using 3 1920x1200 monitors with either Eyefinity or Nvidia Surround? I'm curious to see if this is even possible with a game that's so demanding on the hardware. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjph 0 Posted October 15, 2010 Does anyone play ARMA2 using 3 1920x1200 monitors with either Eyefinity or Nvidia Surround? I'm curious to see if this is even possible with a game that's so demanding on the hardware. I suppose what is acceptable performance is subjective - I play on the system in my sig via a Matrox triplehead (analog version) on three screens at 1280x1024, so only 4m total pixels compared to a possible 7m on the bigger screens in your post. 100%, low AA, most settings high apart from terrain and texture detail, vd varies but I prefer and usually play at 2000m. FPS is typically mid 20 to 30s, though with a lot going on it can get down to the high teens. I am a happy camper though since my Q9650 and 4890 are both last generation hardware, and I think if I went for Eyefinity and three widescreens it would have to be at least a 5870 (or 6xxx) and would need to drop most settings to medium. A word or warning - once you get used to three screens you won't want to go back to one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aeggwards1 10 Posted October 15, 2010 I was wondering how this would run OA? Intel i7-950 3GHz Nvidia 460GTX 6GB OCZ PC3-12800 DDR3 60GB SSD 4 x 500GB SATA II 3Gb/s RAID 0 Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) I was thinking of saving for one of those Nvidia 460's my mate has one and has only said good things about it, maybe I could eventually play OA with him...... You can play OA just fine on your system, it'll just look like #@%^. Nvidia 460's are very good cards, especially for that price. I have a q6600 (OC to 400x8=3200) and a 8800gtx, if the gtx dies I'd get a 460 I think, but ati is about to release 2 new cards around the same price/performance point. We'll see what happens. Edited October 15, 2010 by Leon86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinzan 10 Posted October 15, 2010 I was wondering how this would run OA?Intel i7-950 3GHz Nvidia 460GTX 6GB OCZ PC3-12800 DDR3 60GB SSD 4 x 500GB SATA II 3Gb/s RAID 0 Cheers Pretty well, as long as you don't push the eye candy too hard. But be prepared to be humbled just the same. Minze i7930@2.80Ghz/GTX480/6gbtriple@1600Hz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muttly 10 Posted October 15, 2010 Hey Bangtail /Leon So there building my pc and i get an email saying OCZ GOLD 6GB (3x2GB) 1600MHz - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3) is out of stock and they want to replace it with Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) XMS3 1600MHz - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3). Is there any real differance they said there do it for free but should i be asking them to knock money of instead ? cheers fellas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted October 15, 2010 Hey Bangtail /Leon So there building my pc and i get an email saying OCZ GOLD 6GB (3x2GB) 1600MHz - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3) is out of stock and they want to replace it with Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) XMS3 1600MHz - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3). Is there any real differance they said there do it for free but should i be asking them to knock money of instead ? cheers fellas Just make sure it's on the QVL of the mobo manufacturer. You will not notice the difference, as games aren't memory bandwith limited. Especially with a triple channel setup. ---------- Post added at 01:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:41 PM ---------- 4 x 500GB SATA II 3Gb/s RAID 0 That's a bit unconventional. Make sure to backup important data because when one of those drives fails it's all gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aeggwards1 10 Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) That's a bit unconventional. Make sure to backup important data because when one of those drives fails it's all gone. Thanks, I do already. I know it is unconventional but it works for me. I already own the drives from before 1TB came out so I RAID 0 for speed and capacity. I don't worry about loss of data as I backup weekly. ---------- Post added at 12:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:49 AM ---------- Pretty well, as long as you don't push the eye candy too hard.But be prepared to be humbled just the same. Minze i7930@2.80Ghz/GTX480/6gbtriple@1600Hz Thanks, I knew that I could be humbled by it but I don't want to spend too much on the upgrade. Hopefully I should get some good performance and longevity out of it. Edited October 15, 2010 by aeggwards1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immortals 10 Posted October 16, 2010 (edited) Can this laptop run arma 2 on high -very high settings? with high resolution too? I haven't brought this laptop yet btw g72gx rbbx05 ◦Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 Features 2 processing cores, 1066MHz system bus, 3MB L2 cache and 2.53GHz processor speed per core. ◦6GB DDR2 memory ◦Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive with double-layer support ◦17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen display With 1600 x 900 resolution. ◦500GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm) ◦Built-in facial recognition. ◦NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M graphics Features 1GB GDDR3. *HDMI output for connecting to an HDTV. 2 built-in speakers with DSP and Dolby Home Theater support. ◦Built-in 1.3MP webcam ◦8-in-1 media reader Supports MultiMediaCard, Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card, Smart Media, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO and Memory Stick Duo formats. ◦IEEE 1394 (FireWire) interface and 4 high-speed USB 2.0 ports ◦Built-in wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n) ◦Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps fast Ethernet LAN ◦Weighs 8.8 lbs. and measures 2" thin ◦Fair battery life Of up to 1 hour and 23 minutes (most accurate statement on battery life yet) ◦Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit operating system preinstalled -immortals Edited October 16, 2010 by immortals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted October 16, 2010 Can this laptop run arma 2 on high -very high settings? with high resolution too?I haven't brought this laptop yet btw g72gx rbbx05 ◦Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 Features 2 processing cores, 1066MHz system bus, 3MB L2 cache and 2.53GHz processor speed per core. ◦6GB DDR2 memory ◦Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive with double-layer support ◦17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen display With 1600 x 900 resolution. ◦500GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm) ◦Built-in facial recognition. ◦NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M graphics Features 1GB GDDR3. *HDMI output for connecting to an HDTV. 2 built-in speakers with DSP and Dolby Home Theater support. ◦Built-in 1.3MP webcam ◦8-in-1 media reader Supports MultiMediaCard, Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card, Smart Media, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO and Memory Stick Duo formats. ◦IEEE 1394 (FireWire) interface and 4 high-speed USB 2.0 ports ◦Built-in wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n) ◦Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps fast Ethernet LAN ◦Weighs 8.8 lbs. and measures 2" thin ◦Fair battery life Of up to 1 hour and 23 minutes (most accurate statement on battery life yet) ◦Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit operating system preinstalled -immortals It will run it but not at high or very high at any decent res. Why buy a laptop for gaming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immortals 10 Posted October 16, 2010 It will run it but not at high or very high at any decent res.Why buy a laptop for gaming? Was planning to bring it around and stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinzan 10 Posted October 16, 2010 Can this laptop run arma 2 on high -very high settings? with high resolution too?I haven't brought this laptop yet btw It's not ideal, But it would run ARMAII you'd prolly need to turn view distance all the way down though, and lowball the Antialiasing to achieve playable frame rates. Only speculation on my part Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[frl]myke 14 Posted October 16, 2010 Can this laptop run arma 2 on high -very high settings? with high resolution too?I haven't brought this laptop yet btw g72gx rbbx05 ◦Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 Features 2 processing cores, 1066MHz system bus, 3MB L2 cache and 2.53GHz processor speed per core. ◦6GB DDR2 memory ◦Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive with double-layer support ◦17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen display With 1600 x 900 resolution. ◦500GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm) ◦Built-in facial recognition. ◦NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M graphics Features 1GB GDDR3. *HDMI output for connecting to an HDTV. 2 built-in speakers with DSP and Dolby Home Theater support. ◦Built-in 1.3MP webcam ◦8-in-1 media reader Supports MultiMediaCard, Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card, Smart Media, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO and Memory Stick Duo formats. ◦IEEE 1394 (FireWire) interface and 4 high-speed USB 2.0 ports ◦Built-in wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n) ◦Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps fast Ethernet LAN ◦Weighs 8.8 lbs. and measures 2" thin ◦Fair battery life Of up to 1 hour and 23 minutes (most accurate statement on battery life yet) ◦Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit operating system preinstalled -immortals On high/very high and also high resolutions? Nope, no way. However, you might be able to run it on normal-high. Weak points: CPU. Although Core2Duo's are generally good CPU's, i would recommend a i-series CPU with 4 cores and more than 3GHz clockspeed. GPU. Keep in mind that mobile GPU's are not similar to their desktop pendant. So although the GPU is named GTX260, it's performance is somewhat lower than a desktop GTX260. HD. ArmA 2 needs high transferrates from/to HD. Usually (also the noted) Notebook HD's run at 5400rpm while desktop HD's usually run at 7200rpm which makes a significant difference and could be noted ingame by slow texture/LOD loading. However, it's hard to build up a desktop PC which can run ArmA 2 on very high, why do you think a Laptop/Notebook could be able to do so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immortals 10 Posted October 16, 2010 (edited) hmm, I'll probably buy a desktop instead lol Unless you are planning on buying a 'gaming laptop', they are not a good choice for gaming.Even the really high end gaming models (as good as they may be) cost a lot of money and that is money that will get you a far superior Desktop. Yeah, I was thinking about that too :( Edited October 16, 2010 by immortals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted October 16, 2010 Was planning to bring it around and stuff Unless you are planning on buying a 'gaming laptop', they are not a good choice for gaming. Even the really high end gaming models (as good as they may be) cost a lot of money and that is money that will get you a far superior Desktop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matchy7 10 Posted October 17, 2010 hi there do you know if my pc will run arma 2 oa well with this setup a Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz a nvidia 9800gt 2046MB RAM if not please can i have an estimate of what it will cost so my pc can run arma 2 oa smoothly. Niall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted October 17, 2010 hi there do you know if my pc will run arma 2 oa well with this setupa Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz a nvidia 9800gt 2046MB RAM if not please can i have an estimate of what it will cost so my pc can run arma 2 oa smoothly. Niall It'll run, but it won't run well. And are you sure it has 2 cpu's and it's not faking it by hyperthreading? The processor is probably the thing most worth upgrading. The problem is you'll probably have to upgrade the motherboard and memory as well, unless you have a s775 board with a 965 or p35 chipset. Processor/motherboard/ram will set you back about 200 euro's, if you get an am3 board, 4GB ddr3 and an athlonII x3 processor. If you want a really fast processor I recommend going i5-760, that'll be 350 euros for the board, ram an cpu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites