Gunter Severloh 4051 Posted September 20, 2010 Ausome. Keep in mind you will have Windows 7 64 bit, so if you run into troubles, then be sure to patch with the latest and then search through the forums here for any solutions to issues you may have, but overall i dont see a problem. Welcome to the community! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted September 20, 2010 Sweet! Thanks for the info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mcgarrb 10 Posted September 22, 2010 Hello all! I'm new to all this so please be a little easy on me! I'm looking to buy a new gaming computer and was looking for some help. I want to spend from $800-$1,000. $1,200 fully ready to play with monitor, key board, mouse, and speakers. Any ideas? Any input would be appreciated! Thank you for your time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunter Severloh 4051 Posted September 22, 2010 A few ideas: OS-operating system: win xp or Win 7, prob win 7 CPu: get at least a dual core 2.4 or more, go for more. graphics card: Get Nvidia 200-400 series card Power: at least 700watts Ram: get 4 sticks 1 gig a piece Motherboard:Asus Mouse: Logitech optical mouse keyboard: look around I cant reccomend one Speakers: Boss 5.1 surround sound Sound Card: creative xfi fatality, if not higher Monitor: 1600x900 cant think of any brands atm Gaming Rigs:http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=114 Keep in mind for Arma2 you want dual core, anything 2.4 and up, and a graphics card anything Nvidia 200 series and up. I say nvidia as i dont know about ATI and from all the stuff I read and complaints they arn't dependable, and i never had an issue with Nvidia and I been using them since 1996. Hope that at least gets you an idea, surely others can reccomend some good parts or great computer rigs for Arma2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) Hello all! I'm new to all this so please be a little easy on me! I'm looking to buy a new gaming computer and was looking for some help. I want to spend from $800-$1,000. $1,200 fully ready to play with monitor, key board, mouse, and speakers. Any ideas? Any input would be appreciated! Thank you for your time! If you can get a pc with a core i5-750 (or 760) processor and a gtx 460 gpu I'd go for that. Ati 5850's are a bit faster even but also more expensive. ---------- Post added at 09:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 AM ---------- A few ideas:OS-operating system: win xp or Win 7, prob win 7 CPu: get at least a dual core 2.4 or more, go for more. graphics card: Get Nvidia 200-400 series card Power: at least 700watts Ram: get 4 sticks 1 gig a piece Motherboard:Asus Mouse: Logitech optical mouse keyboard: look around I cant reccomend one Speakers: Boss 5.1 surround sound Sound Card: creative xfi fatality, if not higher Monitor: 1600x900 cant think of any brands atm Gaming Rigs:http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=114 Keep in mind for Arma2 you want dual core, anything 2.4 and up, and a graphics card anything Nvidia 200 series and up. I say nvidia as i dont know about ATI and from all the stuff I read and complaints they arn't dependable, and i never had an issue with Nvidia and I been using them since 1996. Hope that at least gets you an idea, surely others can reccomend some good parts or great computer rigs for Arma2. He has quite a good budget so I'd say go for a quadcore for sure. Saying any Nvidia 200-400 card will do is just a bad advice. A gf 210 won't even run the game. a gts 450 isn't really faster then a 9800gtx and that's not in the series. Your ram advice is also terrible, why would you get 4 sticks of 1gig a piece if you can get 2 sticks of 2 gig a piece for less. Asus isn't the only company that makes good mobo's. I have 3 asus boards and no problems so far. Next board I buy will be gigabyte, but asus is an A-brand that's true. If you buy a decent board you don't need a soundcard, just use onboard, if you're not satisfied you can always add one. I'd say a 500w psu will be more than enough if you buy an A-brand and only run 1 gpu. Edited September 22, 2010 by Leon86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunter Severloh 4051 Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) Saying any Nvidia 200-400 card will do is just a bad advice. Did I actually say that? No, Its a suggestion, obviosly a 210 wouldn't run the game,its a general concept, I only state the range as to give him a general idea of where to look, thats why i suggested at the end "Hope that at least gets you an idea" and surely i'm not going to be the only one responding to the post, so i left it at that. Your ram advice is also terrible, why would you get 4 sticks of 1gig a piece if you can get 2 sticks of 2 gig a piece for less. Well lets patronize me even more, from my stand point im just going off of what I know based on my computer setup, which Runs the game fairly well, as I have 2 sticks 1 gig a piece, so i figured that add 2 more sticks a gig a piece and youd be ok, if you can do 2 sticks 2 gigs a piece then great. I'm here to help anyway I can, and if its not 100% correct, then one has to use their best judgement and or get other options, and or opinions, he asked for suggestions thats what i gave him be it right or wrong. Going by what i say alone even though i post frequently on various topics dont mean Im an expert, I know alot things about the game, as well as computers to my limited knowledge, If you dont want to accept what I suggest, because it may or may not be wrong or what your looking for, then so be it, its no big deal. Asus isn't the only company that makes good mobo's. Of course it isn't, just what came to mind at the moment i was typing, as it isn't everyday you swap out a motherboard, I've only done it twice in my time with computers, as i said its a suggestion, take it or leave, it, if you can suggest some other ones then by all means, it would help. Edited September 22, 2010 by Gnter Severloh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted September 22, 2010 Oh two more questions. What does it mean when the graphics card is "dedicated" or "integrated"? Also why doesn't CompUsa list the power source for this computer http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6634283&Sku=SYX-1053 but for some computers it'll list the power source? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunter Severloh 4051 Posted September 22, 2010 Off the top of my head and dont take my word for it, but: dedicated I believe is a card that can be removed integrated is a card that is built into the motherboard. Just my guess really, i got a friend that is a computer tech that could better answer your questions, but those are my guess as to what they are. As for the power supply, i really dont know why they dont list the power, its prob got a stock power supply in there either 500watt, or something smaller, I cant really say for sure, I suggest that you contact them and really find out, if your aiming to get that computer, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) Oh two more questions. What does it mean when the graphics card is "dedicated" or "integrated"? Also why doesn't CompUsa list the power source for this computer http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6634283&Sku=SYX-1053 but for some computers it'll list the power source? If you buy an assembled pc the PSU should be sufficient for the pc, no real need to list it, although it would be nice. Dedicated indeed means there's a "real" videocard in it instead of a chip on the motherboard that usually uses (a part of) the pc memory for video memory. If you want to compare gpu's take a look at this chart, I still have an 8800gtx and I cant really play at medium details on 1920x1200. The 240 is 3 rows down, roughly half the speed. I strongly suggest you look at something with a faster gpu. The E5400 is a budget outdated processor and although it does perform ok there are better (AMD) processors in that price catagory. Current generation processors are the intel i series (i3/i5/i7) and amd PhenomII or AthlonII processors. Anyway, if I had to make a recomendation I'd get something like this. It has an intel i series quadcore, without the (for gaming) useless hyperthreading, 4GB ram and a very fast gpu. Edited September 22, 2010 by Leon86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted September 22, 2010 Thank you for both of your answers :). This is just a a computer to begin my PC gaming. I will most definently upgrade the parts for it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted September 23, 2010 Thank you for both of your answers :). This is just a a computer to begin my PC gaming. I will most definently upgrade the parts for it! AMD's AM3 socket is quite upgrade-friendly (processor-wise of course) A good board should run anything from the cheapest (30 euro) sempron to the 6-core phenomII's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexVDV 10 Posted September 23, 2010 (edited) Hi, im not really familiar with computers but I'm wondering if I could play Arma 2 with this computer. And would it run good or not. Thanks in advance. Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 720QM (1.60Ghz, 6MB cache) Windows® 7 Home Premium 64 BIT 15.6-inch Full HD 1080p TrueLife 1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 565v graphics 4.096 MB 1.333 MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2 x 2.048] 500GB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD) with Roxio Easy CD and DVD Burn software Its a laptop by the way, called the Dell Studio XPS 16. Edited September 23, 2010 by AlexVDV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted September 23, 2010 @alex: That'll run, don't expect great performance, the processor is quite fast but the gpu isn't, there just isn't enough room for a big gpu and it's cooling in a laptop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EDcase 87 Posted September 23, 2010 Hi and welcome Alex, As Leon said, the GPU (graphics card is quite weak and will mean playing on lowest graphics settings) If you are in UK or want to consider buying with extra shipping have a look at THIS company. I have that G860 laptop with: i7 740QM 4gb ram HD5870 Win7-64 and it actually runs ARMA:OA quite well (25-50fps) at 1920x1080. (Lots of AI will kill the fps) The other alternative is Alienware Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted September 24, 2010 Alienware laptops are great but crazy expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
menos 0 Posted September 24, 2010 I run ArmA II since a few days on: early 2008 MacBook Pro 15" 2.5GHz Core 2 Duo NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 512MB 6GB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz Windows XP Pro SP2 via Bootcamp installation Bootcamp 3.1 drivers (includes graphics driver) 1280x800 1200m normal textures default graphics card settings AA off shadows disabled post processing disabled object and landscape detail lowest settings latest ArmA II OA update I run it rather fluently @ about 25 fps in single player missions. I did not try player yet - lack of speedy servers here in China. I am not satisfied with the performance. ArmA ran very nice on this machine, as do other games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muttly 10 Posted September 24, 2010 Right last time i bought pc i spent £1500 and with in few months every thing was outdated and i felt like a right mug. Dell proper scammed me up.Anyways what do think about this setup or should i wait till some thing better comes along. Computer Case Cooler Master Centurion 590 CPU Intel Core i7 960 D0 (4 x 3.20GHz) 8 MB CPU Heatsink Corsair Hydro Series H50 V2 (Advanced Liquid Cooling) Memory Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) XMS3 1333MHz - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 - 1536 MB Motherboard Asus P6TD Deluxe V2 (Intel X58) Sound Card Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer 7.1 V2 (PCI) Networking Edimax Wireless LAN 150Mbps (PCI) USB Ports 10 x USB 2.0 Ports Firewire Ports 1 Port Firewire IEEE 1394 (Built In) Power Supply Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1000W Case Wiring Professional Standard Hard Drive #1 750 GB SATA-II HDD UDMA 300 7200 32MB Optical Drive #1 Samsung (SH-D162D) 16x DVD-ROM Black (IDE) Operating System #1 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 BIT (Genuine DVD & COA Included) Office Software OpenOffice 3.2.1 (Unlimited PC License Security Software Microsoft Security Essentials (Basic Protection Backup Software Windows Backup Monitor #1 22" LG (W2261VP) Widescreen TFT - Gloss Black - HDMI/DVI-D/VGA - 2ms - (HD 1080p) Keyboard Logitech Deluxe 250 Keyboard (USB) Mouse Logitech Optical Wheel Mouse (USB Speakers Logitech 2.1 S-220 Black Speakers Warranty Service 3 Years Return To Base - 1 Year Parts Warranty - 3 Years Labour Warranty - 2 Months Collect & Return - Manufacturers Warranty Support Service 3 Years Customer Care - E-Mail Support - Phone Support - Live Help Support - Remote Access Production Service Standard (5-9 Working Days) System Total Ex Vat: Delivery Ex Vat: Services: Vat (17.5%): Grand Total Inc Vat: £1,662.18 £ 0.00 £ 0.00 £ 290.88 £1,953.06 What do reckon lads worth it or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted September 24, 2010 @muttley: It's certainly not worth that much. Besides, if you're gonna spend that kind of money you wouln't buy a 750GB harddisk, and why is there an IDE dvd player in there ??? Sata has been the norm for years, nobody wants a big pata cable in their system. If you want the best deal you'll have to build it yourself (pretty easy these days) but I'm pretty sure there are better deals on pre assembled systems than the one you found there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muttly 10 Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) Yeah ive got no idea how to build them thow :( even had to get the pc man round to install new graphics card for me lol. Why iam asking in here half the stuff i chose from the build duno what it does i was just given mutiable choices off stuff then i was doin search on them for reviews lol. Edit yeah actully this pre design one from same site http://www.computerplanet.co.uk/gaming/gaming-pc-gx-sli-2000.html roughly same price and get 2xgtx480s lol man gives me a headache and yeah bet these scamming me up aswell i just dont know. Edited September 24, 2010 by muttly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) On that site you can also "design" your own pc. That way you only have to select components. Computer Case Antec P183 - Silent CPU Intel Core i5 760 (4 x 2.8GHz) 8MB CPU Heatsink Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - Silent Memory Corsair 4GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (2x2GB) - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 1 GB - (EVGA) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-US3L (Intel P55) Sound Card Motherboard Integrated 5.1 Sound Networking Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready) USB Ports 4 x USB 2.0 Ports Firewire Ports 1 Port Firewire IEEE 1394 (Built In) Power Supply Corsair 550W (CMPSU-550VXUK) (select 500W first, then this one) Case Wiring Professional Standard Hard Drive #1 1 TB (1000 GB) SATA-II HDD UDMA 300 7200 32MB Optical Drive #1 Samsung (SH-S223L) DVD +/- RW 24x - Black - Lightscribe (SATA) Operating System #1 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT (Genuine DVD & COA Included) Backup Software Windows Backup Free Gift Free - 8 Port Surge Protection (things that are greyed out dont need selecting, they're built in or default) System is 950 pounds, has no monitor, keyboard or mouse, reckon you have that allready If you choose these components you'll have something that runs arma 2 quite well, If you want the bigger gpu (the 480 or the 5870) choose that and also choose a bigger psu (650 or more should do). The components I selected have a good price/performance where I live, the super-expensive systems will of course be a bit faster but the price/performance will be a lot less. Edited September 24, 2010 by Leon86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muttly 10 Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) Ahh ok cheers ill have another go. Yeah that first post i linked with spoiler was me trying to design my own :o how comes you went for the i5 and not the i7 edit ok nice this what got now Computer Case Antec P183 - Silent CPU Intel Core i5 760 (4 x 2.8GHz) 8MB CPU Heatsink Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - Silent Memory Corsair 4GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (2x2GB) - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 - 1536 MB - (Point Of View) (Includes Mafia2 Free) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-US3L (Intel P55) Sound Card Motherboard Integrated 5.1 Sound Networking Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready) USB Ports 4 x USB 2.0 Ports Firewire Ports 1 Port Firewire IEEE 1394 (Built In) Power Supply Corsair 850W (CMPSU-850TXUK) Case Wiring Professional Standard Hard Drive #1 1 TB (1000 GB) SATA-II HDD UDMA 300 7200 32MB Optical Drive #1 Samsung (SH-S223L) DVD +/- RW 24x - Black - Lightscribe (SATA) Operating System #1 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT (Genuine DVD & COA Included) Backup Software Windows Backup Monitor #1 22" LG (W2261VP) Widescreen TFT - Gloss Black - HDMI/DVI-D/VGA - 2ms - (HD 1080p) Keyboard Logitech Deluxe 250 Keyboard (USB) Mouse Logitech Optical Wheel Mouse (USB) Speakers Logitech 2.0 S-120 Black Speakers Headphones Logitech Dialog 220 Headphones Free Gift Free WebCam - Headphones & Microphone System Total Ex Vat: Delivery Ex Vat: Services: Vat (17.5%): Grand Total Inc Vat: £1,173.21 £ 0.00 £ 0.00 £ 205.31 £1,378.52 its knocked nearly £600 off ;-) Edited September 24, 2010 by muttly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) Ahh ok cheers ill have another go.how comes you went for the i5 and not the i7 The i5-760 is the same processor as the i7-860 only with hyperthreading (absolutely useless in gaming) disabled. I'd say this is a very fast gaming pc, maybe you'll want to wait for someone else on these forums to confirm that, if you're not in a hurry. Edited September 24, 2010 by Leon86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muttly 10 Posted September 24, 2010 The i5-760 is the same processor as the i7-860 only with hyperthreading (absolutely useless in gaming) disabled. i had another go but with an i7 920 Computer Case Antec P193 - Silent CPU Intel Core i7 960 D0 (4 x 3.20GHz) 8 MB CPU Heatsink Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - Silent Memory OCZ GOLD 6GB (3x2GB) 1600MHz - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 SC - 1536 MB - (EVGA) (Includes Mafia2 Free) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 (Intel X58) Sound Card Motherboard Integrated 7.1 Sound Networking Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready) USB Ports 6 x USB 2.0 Ports & 2 x USB 3.0 Ports Firewire Ports 1 Port Firewire IEEE 1394 (Built In) Power Supply Corsair 850W Advanced (CMPSU-850HXUK) - Modular Case Wiring Professional Standard Hard Drive #1 1 TB (1000 GB) SATA-II Western Digital (WD10EARS) - 64 MB - Caviar Green Optical Drive #1 Samsung (S222A) DVD +/-RW 22x Dual Layer - Black (IDE) Operating System #1 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT (Genuine DVD & COA Included) Backup Software Windows Backup Monitor #1 22" LG (W2261VP) Widescreen TFT - Gloss Black - HDMI/DVI-D/VGA - 2ms - (HD 1080p) System Total Ex Vat: Delivery Ex Vat: Services: Vat (17.5%): Grand Total Inc Vat: £1,708.08 £ 0.00 £ 0.00 £ 298.91 £2,006.99 bet that kick armas arse expensive thow :eek: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
50.cal 10 Posted September 24, 2010 Way to go except for the HDD! If you put that amount of money for a comp then you should absolutely go for a SSD hard drive! Don't forget that your system will always be limited by its weakest component...which is your hard drive at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muttly 10 Posted September 24, 2010 Way to go except for the HDD!If you put that amount of money for a comp then you should absolutely go for a SSD hard drive! Don't forget that your system will always be limited by its weakest component...which is your hard drive at the moment. These are the hard drive options http://www.computerplanet.co.uk/custom/corei7/step2.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
