echo1 0 Posted June 30, 2009 The triple core Phenom IIs are actually pretty good, and they're a good deal cheaper (€40-50 difference) than the equivalent quad core. If you're on a tight budget, it's a good way to cut corners but not lose much performance (ArmA 2 can't make full use of Quad cores anyway) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quicksand 0 Posted June 30, 2009 All these super duper rigs. You dont need some ninja system to run the game. It runs fine for me on my X2 4400, 2GB ram and a 1GB HD4650. Thats everything on normal apart from video memory, thats set to high.A lot of posts within this thread was almost putting me off geting the game...$1200 rig to play a $40 game...you guys are crazy! It cost me £50 for the graphics card, and £38 for the game, im well happy. Good job BIS! QFT,my friend.I was almost put off from buying this game too but after 1 week of playing the demo at 1650x1050 with completely playable FPS and high settings with 2 km viewdistance I think there were gross exagerations being made.Arma 2 needs optimization but as far as I can see for me it runs better then Armed Assault ever did with the specs i have in my sig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Pilot 10 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) Ok, how about this. Asus M3A78-CM AMD 780V/SB700 Chipset w/Integrated ATI video, 8-channels, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, Single PCI-E MB (motherboard) 650 Watt -- Casegears ECO-Element 80 Plus Certificated High Efficiency Power Supply SLI Ready AMD Athlon™ X2 5200+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair-Value or Major Brand More Options ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI-Express x16 320 GB HARD DRIVE [serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] LG 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive 17" TFT LCD Monitor Some of the things that were the same I left out. It came out to $686.00 Also, Im not sure about that sound card, sorry. Its the default setting. Wish I could be of more help in that department, but, like I said, Im new to the whole PC gaming thing. Edited June 30, 2009 by Cobra Pilot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted June 30, 2009 That's a reasonably good setup, but the PSU is crap. Do they offer any ones made by Corsair? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Pilot 10 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) The Corsair model takes the system out of my price range. I can take it down to 600 watts and its not made by Casegears. Edited June 30, 2009 by Cobra Pilot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted June 30, 2009 What about the 550W Corsair unit? The Power Supply/PSUs are really something that you can't cut corners on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Pilot 10 Posted June 30, 2009 It doesn't tell me who makes the 550W unit. How much am I going to need to run the system that I have configured right now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted June 30, 2009 I'd say that at least 550W would be more than enough to cover it and any upgrades that you make. The thing is, non-brand PSUs are bad, and cause all sorts of problems and can potentially damage your components (they also are incapable of delivering their stated wattage under most conditions). The only way to guarantee that you get a good one is to buy one made by a brand that is known to make good ones. Corsair makes the best value for money ones, but there are other companies that made good quality ones. If you could tell me which alternatives are around, there might be a good one around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Pilot 10 Posted June 30, 2009 The ones that I can choose from are either casegear, corsair, or an unnamed brand. It just has the wattage and power supply. Like this: 550 Watt -- Power Supply. A nameless 600W is "SLI Ready", what is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted June 30, 2009 How far over budget does the Corsair one bring you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Pilot 10 Posted June 30, 2009 Its only $30 but $700 was pushing it already. If I get this job I'm trying to get it wont be a big deal though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted June 30, 2009 Here's an idea to make it more affordable - downgrade from 4GB of RAM to 2GB. 2GB is more than enough for ArmA 2 and most other games out today when running on Windows 7. RAM is cheap and easy to upgrade, so you can just buy another 2GB and pop it in if you have the money dwon the line. Trust me, it's worth the extra money to have a good quality PSU that you know isn't going to fuck up after a few months (and I've seen it happen a lot, so it's not some obscure problem that may or may not happen at some distant point in the future.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph Troska 0 Posted June 30, 2009 I'm not quite sure what to make of this: In the ArmA2 demo in the scenarios section I ran the Arma2 Benchmark mission/cutscene. At the end it said: Average 43 fps I run it on a Corei7 920 @ 2.67 (stock) with 6gb DDR3 and 4870x2 (no crossfire) - Catalyst 9.6 and on Vista64 Home Premium with SP2 With Terrain: High, Objects: High, Shadows: High, Textures: High Res: 1680x1050, Fillrate: 1680x1050 (100%), Draw Distance: 2000m Anisotropic Filtering: Off, Antialiasing: Off, PostProcess: Disabled Is that good? :confused: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krazypoloc 10 Posted June 30, 2009 So I take it this thread is a "how many FPS should I be getting with X hardware at Y graphics settings"? As I really don't want to dig through 200+ pages of posts and I want to make sure I am getting the best possible FPS as I have tried many settings and manual cfg file tweaking and get some confusing results. I am an IT specialist by trade and a modder/OCer by night. :) So no need to sugar coat the acronyms here. lol. System.... Server 2008 x64 Q6600@3.0GHz 8GB DDR800@920MHz 4870 1GB @stock 1920x1200 28" LCD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted June 30, 2009 43 fps It certainly is. Although I can never understand people asking whether their FPS is good or not... Go and play some missions... if it doesnt lag, be happy. Else, go look for optimization tricks. Don't expect anyone around here to vicariously enjoy the gaming experience for you :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krazypoloc 10 Posted June 30, 2009 I'm not quite sure what to make of this:In the ArmA2 demo in the scenarios section I ran the Arma2 Benchmark mission/cutscene. At the end it said: Average 43 fps I run it on a Corei7 920 @ 2.67 (stock) with 6gb DDR3 and 4870x2 (no crossfire) - Catalyst 9.6 and on Vista64 Home Premium with SP2 With Terrain: High, Objects: High, Shadows: High, Textures: High Res: 1680x1050, Fillrate: 1680x1050 (100%), Draw Distance: 2000m Anisotropic Filtering: Off, Antialiasing: Off, PostProcess: Disabled Is that good? :confused: Sounds like CF is not enabled. You should get almost double your FPS with an x2 at that rez. Try renaming arma2.exe to crysis.exe as this game is probably not in the 9-6 CF profiles(I take it thats what driver version you are running) driver yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Pilot 10 Posted June 30, 2009 Now that im only on 2GB I have the option for this, Corsair XMS2 Xtreme w/Heat Spreader. What exactly does all of that mean? What is a heat spreader? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted June 30, 2009 They're a high performance RAM for overclocking, and a heatspreader is like a little heatsink for RAM, to be honest, it's a bit of a marketing gimmick. Just get some Value RAM from the likes of OCZ, Corsair or Crucial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Pilot 10 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) Wouldnt it be just my luck that when i start to do this they start charging for win7! :banghead: I can preorder it now for half retail price but I cant get it till October 22! Will it run just as fine with XP if I can find it? Edited June 30, 2009 by Cobra Pilot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christud 0 Posted June 30, 2009 Not sure if this is the right place to post this but since a lot of people are asking how to improve performance, here's something I picked up from 'Shataan' on Blue's News: 'A seemingly good tweak is going into the control panel for the vid card and setting render frames ahead to 8, rather than the default 3. Seems to help alot.' Obviously I wouldn't post if I hadn't tried it and I have to say that for me the increase was instantly noticeable... even on my system which was running it pretty well in the first place. And since it's the done thing, here are my specs - i7@4ghz, 6gb ddr3, gtx285, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, 64gb SSD. ... and yes, i did upgrade for Arma2 - which I'm loving! Chris ---------- Post added at 08:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:22 PM ---------- Oops - forgot to say that I'm using Win7 64bit too. Dunno if that's relevant to the tweak but it's in the interests of the transparency for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Pilot 10 Posted June 30, 2009 How did you get win7? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gonzo89 10 Posted June 30, 2009 How did you get win7? You can get the RC1, which is the final pre release before retail. It's free for a year, and will shut down next July. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christud 0 Posted June 30, 2009 Just dl'd it from Microsoft a few weeks back and it's the release candidate obviously. Are they not still giving it away? Mine lasts til March before it all goes a bit funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olasee 10 Posted June 30, 2009 Well, considering that you're getting a 5Kg+ laptop that more than likely doesnt have a long battery life, I think you're going to be stuck at a chair anyway.The problem is that all of the above are the mobile versions, not the desktop ones. The CPUs trade in a good deal of power for battery life, and those nVidia graphics cards are really rebranded versions of their old 9800M series. So while it may look like you're getting a premium-grade "asskicker" you're getting something with decidedly mid-range performance. Of course, you pay €2,000+ for it, and can't upgrade it. Seriously, where do people like you get all this money? :P There are chairs and CHAIRS with plug sockets all around the world, thank God. You know, like on trains, in airport lounges, cafes, even in cars etc., that`s `high performance`mobile gaming. If I want battery life, would buy an anus eebee and play mario 3 :D 5kg+? you`re a lightweight guy? Finally - mid/range with no upgrade? for 2 years more than sufficient. [€2,000+ ... nope ... £2000+] P.S.: I am Hugh Hefners Landlord and Lewis Hamilton drives me to work everyday... you know, flawless :D [sorry for off-topic, couldn`t refuse :o] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted June 30, 2009 Don't worry, when I was 13 years old, I also thought Alienware was cool. Then you grow up, your priorities change, and then before you know it, you're married with kids, and a Thinkpad... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites