BadBenson 0 Posted December 1, 2008 hey guys, seeing someone porting an APC from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. to Arma i had the idea to use the excellent weapon models too. although i got 2 of them roughly ingame yet this is more of a request. cuz i'm busy with my map and very unexperienced with configs and setting up weapons in O2 i thought i'd just bring up the idea and make the first step. so anyone experienced with getting weapons ingame pls PM me. of course i'm gonna finish it with or without help. but as i said i'm busy so it could take a long time. and i'm sure since these models are already covered with nice textures it shouldn't take to long for sumone experienced to set them up. pics... 1 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted December 1, 2008 I have nothing to contribute on the addon guru front, but be sure to check the scale on those things before your release! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maza94 0 Posted December 1, 2008 It's your models or converted form game? becuse you make optics on other side ( like in S.T.A.L.K.E.R ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadBenson 0 Posted December 1, 2008 of course! as i said this is just a sloppy ingame job. yeah and since those models and textures are just lovely it would be a shame to release them with a noob-ass-config. those need a realistic recoil and good sounds to fit the quality of the models. edit: as my first post says the idea is to PORT stalker-models to arma. these are the original stalker weapons. nothing change except a dirty PS-NVidia-NormalMap. i personally wouldn't change anything. it depends more on how u put them ingame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted December 1, 2008 Haven't those "VSS Vintorez" things already been released as addons (by "RobertHammer"? or is it "Vilas"?) in much better quality? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoRailgunner 0 Posted December 1, 2008 Yep and another VSS is in RHS weapon pack too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadBenson 0 Posted December 1, 2008 it's not all about those 2 guns. this is just to show that they look good ingame. the optics is probably on the wrong side cuz i imported and exported it twice. seems like it has been mirrored. once again. the plan is not to release specific weapons that noone did before. i just wanna port all the stalker weapons to arma and release them as a pack. i know the textures aren't very hi-res but i really like how they're done. they look old and used. so pls no complaining about details of the guns. i'm just gonna scale them and port them over. here's the list of stalker http://www.oblivion-lost.net/index.p....weapons here for clear sky the addon assault rifles http://stalker.onlinewelten.com/content,79,sturmgewehre.html pistols http://stalker.onlinewelten.com/content,70,pistolen.html shotguns http://stalker.onlinewelten.com/content,73,schrotgewehre.html and so on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toadball 35 Posted December 1, 2008 VSS is not in RH pack afaik, but is in the RHS one not sure about Vilas' stuff though. Most of the stuff linked to has been produced and imho far better quality but I see no reason why you shouldn't give it a shot, I can think of a few people who'd like a decent RG-6 and Shotgun in game PS: That Toz 34 looks particularly nice (Just need to find the time to make my 194 look half as good :P) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadBenson 0 Posted December 2, 2008 hey guys...some more pics of the weapons. i actually converted the wrong lod of the gun in the first screen i posted. now i have it with more polies and a larger texture which is because these now are the 1st-person lods from stalker not the 3rd-person lods like before. but just look for yourselves. i know those textures still aren't of the highest resolution but i just like their style. the weapons really look as if they've been actually used. also if there's someone who knows how to get good normalmap out of a bumpmap pls pm me. would be a shame to not use the existing ones from stalker. btw.: thx to the upgrade system of stalker it's possible to make different versions of each gun. for example with silencer or grenade launcher. or different scopes. all fits perfect aleady L85 more detailed model of the gun i showed before gorza colt1911 Spas12 fn2000 sig550 i named them after the model names so don't kill me if there something wrong...ain't got no clue about guns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted December 2, 2008 VSS is not in RH pack afaik, but is in the RHS one not sure about Vilas' stuff though. We converted ours from CS:S though, and modify it a bit. Vilas made a brand new very good looking one not long ago. Intresting how nice these Stalker weaps look in ArmA, didnt expect that. Too bad they mirrored the weaps for more action lok ( so you see the bullets coem out and such ). Plus lots of mistakes liek the completely wrong sigt on the AN-94. Google "Asterix diopter" for more info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted December 2, 2008 yes, Stalker weapons are not accurate in look to real one if you wanna keep realism, than importing those weapons - you downgrade a game if you wanna have "Stalker look" than okay but remember that other games have wrong weapons models, cause other games are not aiming in realism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted December 2, 2008 yes, Stalker weapons are not accurate in look to real oneif you wanna keep realism, than importing those weapons - you downgrade a game if you wanna have "Stalker look" than okay but remember that other games have wrong weapons models, cause other games are not aiming in realism LOL I think that Vilas is trying to talk you out of it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted December 2, 2008 Stalker weapons are not realistic in look people who use PC-games as "resource" make big mistake Stalker has wrong weapons models, specially AK74, AN94, i remember screens from Stalker showing "AK47" which looked like ... i don't know how to call this: http://overclocks.za.pl/stalker4.jpg is this AK ? and SVU with sight mount on the same side as bolt :[ PC-game is not good source for using it as knowledge base Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3245 Posted December 2, 2008 who cares about realism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted December 2, 2008 who cares about realism  very sad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted December 2, 2008 Stalker weapons are not realistic in lookpeople who use PC-games as "resource" make big mistake Stalker has wrong weapons models, specially AK74, AN94, i remember screens from Stalker showing "AK47" which looked like ... i don't know how to call this: http://overclocks.za.pl/stalker4.jpg is this AK ? and SVU with sight mount on the same side as bolt :[ PC-game is not good source for using it as knowledge base Uh... Vilas... he's not using it as a resource...mkay. He's using it as a free and legal source of art assets...mkay. Kthnx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted December 2, 2008 who cares about realism very sad I think Q was being sarcastic Especially as hes from ACE mod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3245 Posted December 2, 2008 Most customers of ArmA2 will care about a good overall package instead of perfect realism. Even more most customers will not even not what perfect realism is. This debate is a pure waste of time IMHO. Sad is to have such a tunnel vision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted December 2, 2008 This guy said he wants STALKER weapons, not realism weapons!!! everyone get over it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadBenson 0 Posted December 2, 2008 again...this is not about realism in terms of perfect reproduction of real weapons. i just like the looks of the models. stalker for me was a big disappointment but i always liked its realistic ( ) textures and models (except the characters). i don't wanna compete with any of u guys who already made these weapons. i also don't wanna degrade arma or something. i just made this public because i need help to make these feel as real (not accurate) as they look + i thought there might me always a demand for good looking weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted December 3, 2008 again...this is not about realism in terms of perfect reproduction of real weapons.i just like the looks of the models. stalker for me was a big disappointment but i always liked its realistic ( ) textures and models (except the characters). i don't wanna compete with any of u guys who already made these weapons. i also don't wanna degrade arma or something. i just made this public because i need help to make these feel as real (not accurate) as they look + i thought there might me always a demand for good looking weapons. Forget what Vilas said about it and do the work you want to do. Maybe doing this thing will get you inspired to do something else that's cool, and you will be one of the addon leaders in a year's time... or maybe this is the only thing you do and maybe a small number of people have a good time playing around with your addon... It has nothing to do with contributing or degrading some abstract body of work that has to do with the community or the videogame. It has mostly to do with what you want to do, and a little bit to do with what people who agree with you want to do... and it most certainly has nothing to do with the haters like Vilas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadBenson 0 Posted December 3, 2008 yeah sure...just wanted to make that clear. the main work of getting the stuff ingame won't be mine anyways. i just provide the models as p3ds. my main project is still the afghanistan map which is coming along pretty nice at the moe. i'd never have started a whole new weapon project cuz i simply don't have the time. just put this in the same category like col. well's alien stuff if u feel better then. i personally don't care if everything is perfectly accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maza94 0 Posted December 3, 2008 who cares about realism  very sad Vilas have right ( only with one thing ), ArmA is better with more realistic recoils, weapons, vehicles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nephilim 0 Posted December 3, 2008 importing stuff from others games is pretty lame imho... and they arent even well imported... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
da_aNimal 0 Posted December 3, 2008 BB are you also working on a Mirage F1 which i saw a while back in the WIP section.keep up the great work thanx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites