Grishnack66 0 Posted December 17, 2008 wil it be classic german bunkers in the mod?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 17, 2008 wil it be classic german bunkers in the mod?? I dunno, its possible... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grishnack66 0 Posted December 17, 2008 the pointe du hoch bunkers looks like they were almost completely underground, remember that after hours of instant bombing things may have changed. would have been cool with more underground bunkers in the cliff models. the static 38 cm guns is pretty cool too, visited one once and it was huge! but not shure if there was any in france google sketchup is ideal for making bunkers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 17, 2008 the pointe du hoch bunkers looks like they were almost completely underground, remember that after hours of instant bombing things may have changed. would have been cool with more underground bunkers in the cliff models. the static 38 cm guns is pretty cool too, visited one once and it was huge! but not shure if there was any in france google sketchup is ideal for making bunkers The pointe du hoc bunkers were 5 Regelbau R272 style casemates. This design was a above ground design. Germans were known to use primarily camoflauge netting to conceal them. They also painted some of them to look like restaurants and Inns. It wasn't common at all to bury their R272 bunkers, especially at Pointe du Hoc, simply because none of the casemates there contained the real 155mm guns, instead they contained decoys. They were attempting to fool the Allies into targeting them instead of their real coastal guns hidden further inland- which they suceeded, obviously the huge amounts of bomb craters seen today in many photos. Most of the terrain surface on Pointe du hoc was displaced from its original condition from bombs resulting in what appears to be buried bunkers - But not intentionally. Some trenches were made underground at Pointe du Hoc. There is one observation point on the point of the bluff which partially underground connected to a trench. I will not be making any more underground positions at Pointe du Hoc. I'm in the process of trying to create a uneven terrain, adding some ground clutter, adding many rocks. I think I will finally wrap up this model soon. I've uses many maps and photos for placement of the objects including the bomb craters. I don't use google sketchup as there are limitations when importing models to oxygen. Oxygen works great for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aqu 0 Posted December 17, 2008 Looking great! Now you have time for Avranches Mmmm...how about copying/porting the Mission from CoD2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benoist 0 Posted December 18, 2008 Well Sir, I must to take my hat off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 18, 2008 Ropes will be built into the cliff face. If you look either side of the bluff you will see grappling hooks with a rope to be attached soon. You will be able to climb the cliffs where ever the ropes are at. There will be several spots along the cliffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShrubMiK 0 Posted December 18, 2008 >It wasn't common at all to bury their R272 bunkers, especially at Pointe du Hoc, simply because none of the casemates there contained the real 155mm guns, instead they contained decoys. I think you're wrong there...seems to be a bit of an urban myth grown up about it. I've read several sources that said that the guns had been removed from their emplacements, but the Rangers scouted inland a bit after securing the site, found them, and destroyed them. Hmmm...Wikipedia says something similar, with the added twist that I don't think I've come across before that it was in fact known the guns had been moved but that only the officers were told. Also came across this picture, which gives a great idea of what the bocage was like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....Hoe.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 19, 2008 >It wasn't common at all to bury their R272 bunkers, especially at Pointe du Hoc, simply because none of the casemates there contained the real 155mm guns, instead they contained decoys.I think you're wrong there...seems to be a bit of an urban myth grown up about it. I've read several sources that said that the guns had been removed from their emplacements, but the Rangers scouted inland a bit after securing the site, found them, and destroyed them. Hmmm...Wikipedia says something similar, with the added twist that I don't think I've come across before that it was in fact known the guns had been moved but that only the officers were told. Also came across this picture, which gives a great idea of what the bocage was like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....Hoe.jpg Thanks for supporting what I said. lol The picture shows how it was bombed. I've seen that picture 100 times. UPDATE: Here's a video clip of a Bouncing Betty mine Aqu is making: Again, Work in progress. There are a few kinks to work out but very good Aqu! The current version differe in the way that the 1st stage charge makes bit lesss smoke and one mine going off don't set nearby mines off so easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma85 2 Posted December 19, 2008 >It wasn't common at all to bury their R272 bunkers, especially at Pointe du Hoc, simply because none of the casemates there contained the real 155mm guns, instead they contained decoys.I think you're wrong there...seems to be a bit of an urban myth grown up about it. I've read several sources that said that the guns had been removed from their emplacements, but the Rangers scouted inland a bit after securing the site, found them, and destroyed them. Hmmm...Wikipedia says something similar, with the added twist that I don't think I've come across before that it was in fact known the guns had been moved but that only the officers were told. Also came across this picture, which gives a great idea of what the bocage was like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....Hoe.jpg Layout of the pointe du hoc. This image shows the layout of pointe du hoc defenses. with the positions of the gun "decoys" as well as AA,MG and trench systems. as i recall the guns were located just off the road near the crossroads of vierville and grandcamp in an orchard. the guns were too large for explosive deactivation so thermite exothermic grenades were used to fuse the elevation controls in place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 20, 2008 >It wasn't common at all to bury their R272 bunkers, especially at Pointe du Hoc, simply because none of the casemates there contained the real 155mm guns, instead they contained decoys.I think you're wrong there...seems to be a bit of an urban myth grown up about it. I've read several sources that said that the guns had been removed from their emplacements, but the Rangers scouted inland a bit after securing the site, found them, and destroyed them. Hmmm...Wikipedia says something similar, with the added twist that I don't think I've come across before that it was in fact known the guns had been moved but that only the officers were told. Also came across this picture, which gives a great idea of what the bocage was like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....Hoe.jpg Layout of the pointe du hoc. This image shows the layout of pointe du hoc defenses. with the positions of the gun "decoys" as well as AA,MG and trench systems. as i recall the guns were located just off the road near the crossroads of vierville and grandcamp in an orchard. the guns were too large for explosive deactivation so thermite exothermic grenades were used to fuse the elevation controls in place. I used that layout to make Pointe du Hoc down to the last hedgerow and piece of barbed wire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma85 2 Posted December 20, 2008 >It wasn't common at all to bury their R272 bunkers, especially at Pointe du Hoc, simply because none of the casemates there contained the real 155mm guns, instead they contained decoys.I think you're wrong there...seems to be a bit of an urban myth grown up about it. I've read several sources that said that the guns had been removed from their emplacements, but the Rangers scouted inland a bit after securing the site, found them, and destroyed them. Hmmm...Wikipedia says something similar, with the added twist that I don't think I've come across before that it was in fact known the guns had been moved but that only the officers were told. Also came across this picture, which gives a great idea of what the bocage was like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....Hoe.jpg Layout of the pointe du hoc. This image shows the layout of pointe du hoc defenses. with the positions of the gun "decoys" as well as AA,MG and trench systems. as i recall the guns were located just off the road near the crossroads of vierville and grandcamp in an orchard. the guns were too large for explosive deactivation so thermite exothermic grenades were used to fuse the elevation controls in place. I used that layout to make Pointe du Hoc down to the last hedgerow and piece of barbed wire. ahh couldn't see the farmhouses or homesteads in the pic XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 25, 2008 Merry Christmas all!  Just wanted to give you a brief update on the current development of the mod in general.  I will be very vague and answer questions later about things as they are further developed.  I will also provide a few screenies... Without further ado... UPDATE: -WIP continues with many things to talk about: -Bomb load out for the Avro Lancaster begins work -Several new aircraft in work -Two versions of a P38 Lightning in work -Curtiss P40 Warhawk in work -P47 Thunderbolt in work -F4U Corsair in work -FW190 in work -JU87 stuka in work -Two versions of a Tiger 1 in work -M10 Wolverine in work in work -M1919A4 in work in work -Sd Kfz 184 Ferdinand/Elephant in work -Sd Kfz 250 Halftrack in work -Sd Ah 116 Halttrack transporter in work -Sd Kfz 10 Halftrack in work -Sd Kfz9 Halftrack with 88 in work -Firefly in work -Sherman flame thrower -Sd Kfz 251c Command Halftrack in work -M3 Stuart in work -Opel Blitz Fuel truck -Stug III G -Stug III H -Panther Auf G. -S-mine -Bangalore torpedo -Updated Vilas WW2 infantry which includes:  -New British paratroopers  -New infantry crew member including .30 cal machine gunner  -New weapon sounds from Hifi replacing most Vilas old sounds   -Tradtional grey suit Heer   -German tank crews   -German officers   -More medics   -Various built in editor predefined squads   -Flame thrower soldier   -Combat engineers/mine/sapper -V1 rocket system in work -Pointe du Hoc in work -Major revamp of all WWII Landing beaches with proper bunkers, trenches and obstacles and modified terrain in work -Major map rework...was 47 towns, upgrading to 255 towns. -A destroyer is in work -German U-Boat in work -Tail gunner/turrets still in work for bombers -New WW2 campaign mission -Many new obstacles, bunkers, trenches, hegdehogs, hedgerows, trees, fields, mud & foilage in general in work YES YOU GET ALL THIS AND A CUSTOM WW2 animation pack! -Cliff/rope climbing -Directional diving for cover/concealment -Mine placement -Bangalore torpedo placement -Fence hoping/wall climbing -Straffing/cover fire Panther G: Stug IV One of the two new Tiger 1's: New camo position: Stug 3G Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 25, 2008 Stug 3G thanks Aqu! Firefly! 251 HT The Elephant: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 25, 2008 HT 10 250 HT9 with 88 Ah 116 HT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 25, 2008 .30 cal M10 P38 2nd version P38 first version, thanks Aqu! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 25, 2008 P47: Curtiss P40 F4U FW190 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 25, 2008 Ju87 stuka! Avro Lancaster bomb loadout, thanks Aqu Of course, all work in progress. Subject to change, etc, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Masta 0 Posted December 25, 2008 Wow, that's alot of stuff. Just one question, will the JU87 have the sound of the trumphets of jericho? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 25, 2008 Wow, that's alot of stuff. Just one question, will the JU87 have the sound of the trumphets of jericho? heh haven't heard that phrase in while when refering to a stuka sire, but sure, I can put one in there. That would be thrilling hearing that thing coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AwesomeWalrus 0 Posted December 25, 2008 I'm lovin' the beta man, I can tell a LOT of effort was put into the units. I had a question though: are you still planning on releasing the grey Wehrmacht troops? Because I have a personal preference to the grey uniforms. Thanks for all the hard work, I'm looking forward to a few Point Du Hoc missions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 25, 2008 I'm lovin' the beta man, I can tell a LOT of effort was put into the units.I had a question though: are you still planning on releasing the grey Wehrmacht troops? Because I have a personal preference to the grey uniforms. Thanks for all the hard work, I'm looking forward to a few Point Du Hoc missions. Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenn 0 Posted December 25, 2008 Hi, first of all, awsome work so far. You are all doing a great job. I have an Evolution map in the works that will be finished once the halftracks are available. Looking forward to the next release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frostwyrm333 1 Posted December 25, 2008 This mod is getting bigger and cooler, i like it very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rip31st 98 Posted December 25, 2008 Nobody noticed the corsair or warhawk lol. Hmmmm wonder why those are being dev'd? One will just have to keep on wondering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites