Ka-50/Ka-52?

[Gedis 0]

Hello,

My suggestion is:

dump the Ka-50 or 52 and replace it with Mi-28N. Since it's all about realism and russians dont plan to start mass production of attack kamov helicopters, let's stick to the Mi-28N which entered service not that long ago and is actualy being used.

Action goes in future, 2009, so by that time, maybe russia will have a decent number of Mi-28Ns.

Please BI, add Mi-28N to the arma2, please!

P.S. there are no more than something about 12 Ka-50/52 in reality...

[sandzibar 0]

Im sure i remember seeing the Havoc mentioned in arma2 info somewhere..

I dont think the vids weve be fortunate to see should be treated as "thats it.. thats all the content we get".

[straubinger82 3]

Of course that would be really nice, adding the Havoc.

BUT only as addition cause the Ka-50/52 are porno too.

Perhaps we get a Mi-2, Mi-26, etc... I would love every helikopter in Arma2.

What about a nice civil helicopter to get some extra bonus.

With ArmA2, I hope the addonwave would start earlier and more massive. When I think of the noumerous highendaddons for OFP like the "DKM Havoc" from these days...

[Spoock 3]

I like Ka 52 more than Ka50, better view from cocpit and it have gunner possition. I played Ka52 flysim long ago and I must say: "this helicopter is beauty"

[Heatseeker 0]

I have this feeling that BIS is picking what they find cool over what is realistic .

OPF's content was somewhat acurate to the era where it was set and that was part of its charm, the g36, steyr, bradley, apache, etc werent well thought aditions but they were free aditions to a good basic set of CW era equipment and vehicles, the game felt like the 80's atleast.

In Armed Assault they threw stuff at it and we got ourselves delta force and the armines VS the spanish speaking, generic east army, it felt real bad.

Choosing the near future gives them creative freedom but its a bad aproach for a simulation type of game, they could have picked the 90's and go from there (research).

This would give the gamer the feeling of participating in a real conflict, not a BF2 game..

My 0.02€ anyways.

[sandzibar 0]

Given the fantastically realistic new terrain, and those older gen vehicles weve seen, id imagine youd be able recreate your own contempory Chechnya quite easily. If thats what you want.

Edit: and saying arma2 is like bf2 just because its got the f35 and vodniks in.. is just.. wow.

[Dwarden 1124]

why remove someting? leave all in and add more ...

note the nice remark how can ArmA vehicles easily should be easily ported to ArmA 2 and apply new shaders on them

[Maddmatt 1]

why remove someting? leave all in and add more ...

Exactly.

A lot of work goes into creating such high detail models and textures, and getting it all functional in-game. To get rid of them is to throw away all that time and effort.

No sense getting rid of it when it's already there anyway.

Of course I would also love to see an Mi-28. If BIS doesn't do it (considering that they already have both the Mi-24 and KA-52, I doubt they will), then hopefully a modder will create one

I remember the Mi-28 by the DKM mod for OFP. That was awesome

[Gedis 0]

well i find it kinda odd that Ka-50/52 is choosen instead of Mi-28.

Ka-50 is even out of the line, since it's 1 pilot manned.

Choosing Ka-52 or Mi-28N is a bit harder. Althought Mi-28N still would be in the lead as attack helicopter.

It's like comparing:

Ka-52's: Mi-28N's:

superd handling good handling

good weaponary even more of that weaponary

both have 2 pilots, meaning more functions could be done

not in service in service

and so on and on...

Ka-50 would be good only if strike locations would be know, number of targets would be know too, blah blah blah...

in other words when pilot wouldn't have to improvise much, since he's controling the hellicopter, it's weapons, watching for targets...

Why not Ka-52? well Mi-28N is in service and i haven't heared that Ka-52 will be entering service in nearest future.

P.S. i should have writen a full analysis but it would take too much time, to show what i mean, so i wrote the most simple one

[EricM 0]

Simple answer : Ka52 looks better !

[PuFu 4591]

damn me if i would finish my mi28...lazy ass me

[jakerod 254]

Quote[/b] ]In January 2001, the Ka-50 saw its first combat operation, as it fired on enemy positions in Chechnya. Later, it would undertake several missions inside that war zone, although not as much as the more numerous Mil Mi-24 which is perhaps better suited to the more anti-guerrilla-type operations undertaken there.

Quote[/b] ]The production of Ka-50 was recommenced in 2006.

Both from Wikipedia so they may not be true.  Most of the sources were in Russian so I couldn't really verify if it was true or not.

Point being is that they have been used in the past and there is no reason why they couldn't be used here. If you don't like them don't ask them to take it away either let them keep it in and add something else too. No point in wasting time.

I thought a while back I heard that the Ka-50 or Ka-52 was going to be used mainly in operations to support special forces (similar to an AH-6) I guess. I can't remember where I read it at though.

[Alex72 1]

@Jakerod: Yep the KA50 is for special operations. But they shouldnt come in numbers though. There were very few, if not only 1(?), in the Chechnya war. So it its a very good candidate for ArmA2 with the location in mind, but shouldnt come in big numbers. Mission makers can put in few of them if realism is top of the list.

The idea of taking it out is ridiculus. Its an awesome attack heli that really suit the area, and i sure dont want to be without it.

Regards

Alex

[Gedis 0]

ow come on, i didn't ment that much that i should be removed...

[SaBrE_UK 0]

ow come on, i didn't ment that much that i should be removed...

Hmm what did you mean by this, then?

Quote[/b] ]My suggestion is:

dump the Ka-50 or 52 and replace it with Mi-28N.

[Gedis 0]

Hello,

My suggestion is:

dump the Ka-50 or 52 and replace it with Mi-28N. Since it's all about realism and russians dont plan to start mass production of attack kamov helicopters, let's stick to the Mi-28N which entered service not that long ago and is actualy being used.

Action goes in future, 2009, so by that time, maybe russia will have a decent number of Mi-28Ns.

Please BI, add Mi-28N to the arma2, please!

P.S. there are no more than something about 12 Ka-50/52 in reality...

and what is here in BOLD?

EDIT to post bellow this one:

the first idea (dumping) gets "dumped" at the last sentence, which means it was writen a bit later than the first sentence, leading to the idea that it should be actualy added not dumped. So... i see you have difficulties with reading and understanding what you read

and i want to point out, if BI is watching, in no means i'm agry or frustrated, i'm just suggesting.

Nothing in the world gonna drag me out of my passion which had started from good old veteran of simulation, OFP.

I still play( or should I say simulate?) with it along with arma  

[SaBrE_UK 0]

and what is here in BOLD?

That changes nothing. You still said to "dump the Ka-50 or 52 and replace it with Mi-28N."