Shadow NX 1 Posted October 2, 2008 Could just be one of Max painkiller and stress related dreams and these guys are symbol for junkies on the Valkyr drug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 0 Posted October 2, 2008 Not convinced, the chap at the start says "Max Payne is searching for something that God wants to remain hidden". And they feature too often and vividly in the trailer, surely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfrug 0 Posted October 2, 2008 Oh come on, it's obviously a result of a V-trip. The games never gave any good explanation as to why the drug was called that, if the film gives us some cool-assed Valkyries that fly around making people do crazy shit, then fine. All the better a drug-trip for it! But I don't know otherwise :P Might have some good action in it, I suppose...meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Second 0 Posted October 4, 2008 Oh come on, it's obviously a result of a V-trip. The games never gave any good explanation as to why the drug was called that, if the film gives us some cool-assed Valkyries that fly around making people do crazy shit, then fine. All the better a drug-trip for it!But I don't know otherwise :P Might have some good action in it, I suppose...meh. I got impresison that drug actually never got the part in plot that it should have at start, i base this strongly on demo of Max Payne's first part and first meeting with V-junkie (in toilet, wasnt' it?). All they missed was rotten flesh and worse tooth to be good ol' fantasy zombies. Next thing we would face would be prince of darkness in funky plate armor, bad-ass twohander and spikes in gloves... In good ol' fantasy style. And army of orcs. And valkyries in tight armors and wielding spears. Maybe dev-team had different (bigger) ideas for drug, but wisely chosed not to go into there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadfast 43 Posted October 4, 2008 The games never gave any good explanation as to why the drug was called that... V for Valkyr. As explained in that underground level Valkyr was some sort of Viking invincibility ritual or something like that. It was originally an Army project to increase soldier's stamina. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h - 169 Posted October 10, 2008 Quote[/b] ]As explained in that underground level Valkyr was some sort of Viking invincibility ritual Don't remember that from the game(s).. Dunno where they would get that idea from though.. In Norwegian mythology Valkyries are female minor deities serving Odin. IIRC they were deities who decided the 'worthyness for Valhalla' (read: heroism) of the combatants died in battles.. I so hope they don't screw up this movie. Been hoping a Max Payne movie ever since the first game.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadfast 43 Posted October 10, 2008 Well, I'm not certain about the Vikings and stuff, but it surely had something to do with some invincibility ritual. Yeah, there's some cool things they could pull off Max Payne, let's just hope they won't screw it up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h - 169 Posted October 11, 2008 Well, getting into Valhalla would kinda secure you with immortality so that could be it, although it's a bit far fetch.. I absolutely loved the darkness of the Max Payne 2 story so it would be just awesome if they could capture it. Hope springs that they could honor the Thief series in form of a good movie.. I would know a good script for it, one that me and my friend wrote years and years ago.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted October 17, 2008 It's in cinemas now, at least in New Zealand So who's seen it? Any comments? Edit: Searched Google for "Max Payne movie reviews", not good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted October 17, 2008 NO WAI! Jeez, if anything, Frank Miller should've been involved, he's good at this and would capture the spirit of Max Payne perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h - 169 Posted October 17, 2008 Hmmmm A Finnish reviewer gave it 3 out 5 stars. Said that it's better than most game adaptations. If he's talking about movies like Tomb Raider, Doom or Mortal Kombat then it's probably oscar-worthy .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmitri 0 Posted October 17, 2008 It's PG-13. That's a clue to whether it's true to the game and if it was ever intended to be a "serious" film. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted October 17, 2008 It's PG-13. That's a clue to whether it's true to the game and if it was ever intended to be a "serious" film. The director intended more adult things to be in it, but the big shots wanted a PG-13 rating (Hollywood, everything has to have the largest target audience available to maximize the profit, as Billy Bob Thornton put it in an interview I read a few weeks ago "Hollywood makes products, Europe makes movies"), so excessive material (=WIN) was cut. Let's hope for a director's cut DVD... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spokesperson 0 Posted October 17, 2008 Only losers make movies out of video games. That's why all adaptions are bad. Real directors make unique movies based on their own ideas and impressions. They don't need to use names of established products to get funding or attract an audience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted October 17, 2008 Most game to movie adaptations expose what's really infront of you but you're having fun blasting stuff: the story is cheesy, full of plot holes and just doesn't cut it in a movie adaptation. There are few game stories that would be worth making into a movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfrug 0 Posted October 18, 2008 That's the thing isn't it? As long as you've got the interactivity a game provides, the story doesn't -need- to be earth-shatteringly good, since you've got other things occupying you (such as blasting baddies). If there're story elements, that's a welcome bonus, but no-one's saying they have to be GOOD story elements - generally special effects is quite enough. Hell - in the original Max Payne there were a bunch of cartoons and cheesy TV serials running on various TV sets throughout the game, which in my opinion were great, since you don't often see something like that. But in a movie adaption...I can easily see how something like that can sort of not work out. At all. Another issue is the fact that games often quite shamelessly plagiarize the world of movies (and books) : the point is to give the player a chance to be that Mafia boss, hardboiled cop, or WW2 veteran, and to get to that end, stick in as many movie tropes as possible into the mix - the more you manage, the more "movie like" the experience will be, and thus the more copies will be sold. Translating this back into the world of movies will require a lot of creative talent from the director. IMHO the two Tomb Raiders weren't that bad, but frankly that's entirely due to Angelina Jolie :P (and the Silent Hill movie was kind of spooky too - and made endless fun of the way a game works, too (oops, I dropped this tool after having used it once. Oops, all the drawers in this desk are locked but this one)! Obviously what "movie-to-games" games miss is that you need a game in there too End rant! I read a review somewhere that the director had succeeded in the artsy side at least - so if nothing else it can be enjoyed visually. Regards, Wolfrug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted October 18, 2008 Only losers make movies out of video games. That's why all adaptions are bad. Real directors make unique movies based on their own ideas and impressions. They don't need to use names of established products to get funding or attract an audience. By that logic you can say the same about movies based on books or comics which is the majority of the better movies today. As if there never was a good game movie... for example i found Silent Hill to be extremely good and only enjoyeable for people who dodnt know the game. Most of the bad game movies liek Far Cry are made by people that indeed just want a known name for their low budget crap like Uwe Boll does it, he said himself that he doesnt play games so he just reads bit about it and makes his own story from that. Good game movies like Silent Hill are usually made by directors who already made good movies in the past like in the case of SH Christophe Gans who made movies like Pact of Wolves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted October 18, 2008 Ive just watched the film and as a fan of the games, i thought the movie was really good. I cant go into detail as im not a fan of speaches though lol. But i do reccomend it, i didnt pay to watch of course i have my sources but yeah.. i didnt no weather myself it was gona be good or not but go see it! Â probly see it at the cinema too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spokesperson 0 Posted October 18, 2008 Quote[/b] ]By that logic you can say the same about movies based on books or comics which is the majority of the better movies today. 1st part: Yes. 2nd part: No. I have only seen one good comic book movie adaptation. That was the "Dark Knight". It wasn't just action, but also some elements of philosophy. I didn't like the comic book part of it. The idea of a guy in a bat suit is completely plain and stupid, it ruins the experience. Good acting though. Book adaptations can be good, but that depends on the book. Some books have a message and certain depth. The only "good" game based movie I've seen is Postal by Uwe Boll. Not that it reflected the contents of the game in a good way, but it was so different from everything else I've seen, and that absurd that I liked it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stryder 0 Posted October 19, 2008 All I know is Mila Kunis is smokin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sic-disaster 311 Posted October 24, 2008 This is probably the first game-to-movie adaptation that doesnt blow epic balls. I've seen it at the cinemas, and i was very skeptical before i went there, but i came back out a smiling man. They gave the story a few minor twists to suit better to a movie, but they didnt mess it up like say, the Hitman movie did (killerclone kills anyone without emotion turned orphan raised by church to destroy all evil...) A minor example would be Mona, wich you only get to see during MP2 if i remember correctly (or maybe at the end of MP1?) was in the movie and took a bigger role, ala Max Payne 2. Another thing that was strange to me was that old Caucasian bald Jim Bravura was now a young black dude. But that's about it, there are some other minor twists in the story but nothing griping, and i played and loved both Max Payne games. And for those who got worried by the 'demons' flying around in trailers (like me), dont worry about them since they are hallucinations wich are only seen by people who took the Valkyr drug The drug was meant to make soldiers kill without fear of death for themselves, basically the vikingway of getting killed gloriously and taken up to Valhalla by the Valkyries. So i'm left positive about this movie, i think a lot of moviemakers who make gamemovies could learn a lesson from this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites