NovaPhoenix 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Just bought AA here in melbourne Australia, box and all I installed it, did a quick test run to find out it was 1.04, saw the menu and such before closing it. I would then go and start downloading the 500mb+ international 1.5 patch for the game to. After ages downloading that and installing that, I go to run the game and I get the following error messsage. A required security module cannot be activated. This program cannot be executed (5024). Please have a look at http://www.securom.com/message.asp?m=module&c=5024 for further, more detailed information. Heres my specs Win 2000 SP4 (LEGIT!!!!!! ) Radeon X1950 Pro, Cat 6.12 drivers 1Gig Memory SoundBlaster Audigy 2 sound card DVD Rom = "TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H352A" Â (got that info off PC Wizard) So yeah, not happy at all with this. Â I had a bad feeling about getting this game, especially after playing the demo. Â Turns out to be true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1052 Posted March 15, 2007 I recommend you read this topic. This error you get when Securom detects "not allowed" software or drivers on your system. Like Virtual Drives, tools for hiding them (YASU), or debugging tools. Process Explorer by Sysinternal (now Microsoft) is such a tool which is on Securoms "Blacklist". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaPhoenix 0 Posted March 15, 2007 I use Process Explorer, and shutting it down didnt allow me to play the game, I dont think there is a way to uninstall it either as its just a copy an exe file Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaPhoenix 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Okie got the game going.... Basically had to restart the PC WITHOUT process explorer running which I find annoying as I use it a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1052 Posted March 15, 2007 According to Securom Devs shutting down Process Explorer isn't enough as the .dll files are still in memory once it has been started. You need to make sure that Process Explorer isn't started at all before you launch ArmA. I know that sucks totally, as Process Explorer is not some 'hacking tool' but that's how the situation is at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cooee 0 Posted March 15, 2007 What a croc this is. I'm in Melb also, my DVD hates this game. Sometimes it loads straight away, other times it may take me 10 goes. Seems a few of us Aussies are having the same problem, i've read this forum from front to back and done a few things, but alas it's one of those "put up with it" scenarios. And don't get me started on the radom crashes.............. The game is very good, hence the reason why l put up with it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wika_woo 182 Posted March 16, 2007 You need to make sure that Process Explorer isn't started at all before you launch ArmA. I know that sucks totally, as Process Explorer is not some 'hacking tool' but that's how the situation is at the moment. Has that been officially tested?... I guess I'll give it a go, I only run process explorer when something is "not responding".. I'm still using 1.4, I'll try installing 1.5, then run it and make sure process explorer aint runnin' .. Most Pc users would know it's not a hacking app.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1052 Posted March 16, 2007 A fellow moderator in the official german ArmA Forum has sent many emails to Securom/Sony because of the problems with Process Explorer and yes, Securom confirmed that ProcExp prevents ArmA from starting once the application is/was loaded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted March 16, 2007 Wait a second... You´re using the wrong patch mate. If you already got the 1.04 version you should use the 505 patch wich is about 150 MB in size, not the huge one that transports 1.02 versions to Version 1.05. You simply installed the wrong patch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suma 8 Posted March 16, 2007 You´re using the wrong patch mate.If you already got the 1.04 version you should use the 505 patch wich is about 150 MB in size, not the huge one that transports 1.02 versions to Version 1.05. The huge patch works will all versions, including the 1.04. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted March 16, 2007 Oh... Thought the 505 patch was specific for 1.04 upgraders. Just forget what I said then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wika_woo 182 Posted March 16, 2007 Wait a second...You´re using the wrong patch mate. If you already got the 1.04 version you should use the 505 patch wich is about 150 MB in size, not the huge one that transports 1.02 versions to Version 1.05. You simply installed the wrong patch. how can it, the international patch was the only one i could download as it works out more specific, i wouldnt download the european... It did work when i installed it.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wika_woo 182 Posted March 18, 2007 Yeah, its working now, with 1.05... I made sure process explorer wasn't on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bet 0 Posted March 26, 2007 A fellow moderator in the official german ArmA Forum has sent many emails to Securom/Sony because of the problems with Process Explorer and yes, Securom confirmed that ProcExp prevents ArmA from starting once the application is/was loaded. Is there any word on whether SecuROM/Sony will be able to fix this? Or is this going to be the nature of SecuROM from now on? I know that the copy protection has had issue with the File/Registry Monitor programs from the same guys, and they asked people to let them know if it ever targeted Process Explorer, which now someone has. Unfortunately now those forums are locked thanks to spam so I can't bump that post. Going without Process Explorer on my system is like operating with a finger missing. Its primary residence is on a portion of my second display, sometimes full-screen on it, since I'm routinely tweaking something on my system performance-wise and monitoring how system processes are behaving. I fear that's why it there are now issues, in that the user has too much information about what's going on... Like the poster in the second thread I linked above, it's amazing that official Microsoft programs are now attacked by SecuROM. I could almost believe that the console wars are spreading to the PC, and Sony is getting revenge on Microsoft for the PS3 doing poorly in a roundabout and sadistic manner. A thought so ludicrous that it could actually be possible. Having to choose between control over my system and playing ArmA is painful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baddo 0 Posted March 26, 2007 It's quite amusing how some companies seem to think they have a right to control what programs a user is running... this could even be worth of a law suit at least in a country like USA. It would be interesting to hear if it has been tried out in court if such companies should be allowed, without approval from the owner of the computer, to control what other processes run in a user's computer, and if yes then what are the justifications. In my opinion such behaviour should go through a court ruling, I find such behaviour highly intrusive and most of all, inconvenient for the many users. And the best part is, locks keep only honest people out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Key Dutch 0 Posted March 26, 2007 It's quite amusing how some companies seem to think they have a right to control what programs a user is running... this could even be worth of a law suit at least in a country like USA. It would be interesting to hear if it has been tried out in court if such companies should be allowed, without approval from the owner of the computer, to control what other processes run in a user's computer, and if yes then what are the justifications. In my opinion such behaviour should go through a court ruling, I find such behaviour highly intrusive and most of all, inconvenient for the many users. And the best part is, locks keep only honest people out. hey m8, when u install game, did u read licens and agreement? if not, its ur own fault. there is allway chose, dont liket , dont install. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Key Dutch 0 Posted April 1, 2007 well, as long i cant see respond, i guess u did not read it. well if u think licens and agreemet ints juts part of installation, u wrong. b4 press "im agree" read the terms and condition.by all acounts , u should read it ever time when u install any new program, full terms, then  probably , no one will post that kind of  messages. unlikely u would put ur signature on contract/agreement (in real life) b4 reading full terms of conntract/agreement. so my freind b4 post anything, think what u posting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtylarrygb 0 Posted April 3, 2007 It's quite amusing how some companies seem to think they have a right to control what programs a user is running... this could even be worth of a law suit at least in a country like USA. It would be interesting to hear if it has been tried out in court if such companies should be allowed, without approval from the owner of the computer, to control what other processes run in a user's computer, and if yes then what are the justifications. In my opinion such behaviour should go through a court ruling, I find such behaviour highly intrusive and most of all, inconvenient for the many users. And the best part is, locks keep only honest people out. Locks keep very few honest poeple out they keep 1000's of pirates out. When you install just about form of software you are asked to agree to stuff like anti cheat technology and piracy technology may be installed on your PC. If you click yes then you agree and also agree not to hack the game and use "nocd" technology to run the game. IF you want to run arma without a cd then buy the sprocket version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bet 0 Posted April 3, 2007 IF you want to run arma without a cd then buy the sprocket version. The problem is that I want to run ArmA with the DVD as well as retain control of my computer. Do you have a solution for that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wika_woo 182 Posted May 17, 2007 agh! It striked back. Someone must've opened process explorer. Caused a leak. I really really hope BIS fix this in the next patch. I hate re-installing over a pointless thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted May 17, 2007 agh! It striked back. Â Someone must've opened process explorer. Caused a leak. I really really hope BIS fix this in the next patch. I hate re-installing over a pointless thing. Summary: You're hoping that the next patch from BIS will change the publisher's choice of copy protection system or change anything in SECUROM's software. ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wika_woo 182 Posted May 18, 2007 agh! It striked back. Â Someone must've opened process explorer. Caused a leak. I really really hope BIS fix this in the next patch. I hate re-installing over a pointless thing. Summary: You're hoping that the next patch from BIS will change the publisher's choice of copy protection system or change anything in SECUROM's software. ~S~ CD I've got 100% proof, my Arma is original... I even posted it as to show my rig in forums. http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3403/dsc00007xq5.jpg I don't buy copied games or download them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adumb 0 Posted May 18, 2007 agh! It striked back. Someone must've opened process explorer. Caused a leak. I really really hope BIS fix this in the next patch. I hate re-installing over a pointless thing. Summary: You're hoping that the next patch from BIS will change the publisher's choice of copy protection system or change anything in SECUROM's software. ~S~ CD I've got 100% proof, my Arma is original... I even posted it as to show my rig in forums. http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3403/dsc00007xq5.jpg I don't buy copied games or download them. Is the mirror for if someone walks in and you are looking at porno? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormbringerGT 0 Posted May 18, 2007 Well here is the kick in the balls, if you read the eula and decide to exercise that choice and not accept it, then it doesnt install. Fine. However you are still stuck with a game that you cannot install or play or choose not to install or play, because when you buy it there is not eula and nowhere on the box does it say: "Requires process explorer not to be running" Im not picking on this game, just the general scenario and in response to the guy who says not at accept the EULA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
