celery 8 Posted March 5, 2007 While sniping idle live targets to hone my skillz, I noticed that nobody's head gets bloody anymore, making it hard to know how precise your shot was. I investigated the dilemma further and found out that the head has some kind of weird magnetic field that protects it against bullets! Here is a video sample in slow motion to show what happens since my screenshot finger isn't fast enough. See how the bullet dodges the head completely in a very steep angle and hits the middle of the body. Has BIS implemented a top secret defence system to test VBS2's gadgets, or was the bloody head too much for a publisher? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xav 0 Posted March 5, 2007 I read here someone reporting the same problem (at least you are not the only one with the problem) I think it was in the Patch 1.05 impressions thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted March 5, 2007 I confirm this (I just tested it too). Only headshots are "deflected". You can shoot someone in the leg or arm or body and the appropriate part has a "blood texture" applied, but not the head. Perhaps you should file it as a bug, either in the software or the documentation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infam0us 10 Posted March 5, 2007 You can see the traces going straight to the chest, despite the rifle being pointed at his head Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted March 5, 2007 Might want to check the difficulty settings for auto aim. Could be that it's turned on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1052 Posted March 5, 2007 I just tried with auto-aim off, and can confirm it. Each time I aim the head the bullet goes through the chest even if you aim on the head. The ugly blood textures (if blood set to high) are still there though, even on my german version while we germans are known for our censorship erm... protection of minors laws. No idea though if that's since 1.05 or was before too. Never paid really attention to it. Now it's maybe disabled cause of the annoying CS kids screaming headshot, headshot in all MP sessions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
celery 8 Posted March 5, 2007 Might want to check the difficulty settings for auto aim. Could be that it's turned on. Auto aim is and was disabled. You should try it too, or do you not have this same problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieAngel 0 Posted March 5, 2007 well i managed to make proper headshots but only when aiming the helmet itself, if you hit any lower it takes chest... Hitboxes anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
general 0 Posted March 5, 2007 tried it, and I've got thesame problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmarkwick 261 Posted March 5, 2007 Bad news for zombie mods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colt 0 Posted March 5, 2007 Me again  Yeah it's an issue. In my 1.04 (505 Games) you could make headshots without them cying out "Arghhhh!" and alerting their comrades. This made stealth and using silenced weapons a valid tactic. In 1.05 a headshot registers as a torso shot and so they react by shouting "Arghhhh!" and everyone knows where you are. I did some testing in 1.05: http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....;st=300 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Dawg KS 6 Posted March 5, 2007 Looks like auto-aim (the tracers give it away), the bug is probably that auto-aim is not properly disabled rather than not being able to "make headshots". Try it with createvehicle'd bullets, they should (not having been fired from the player or any AI) be uneffected by auto-aim. Another, easier way would be to try it on an already dead unit, if you can hit the body in the head then you know it's auto-aim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrZig 0 Posted March 5, 2007 Auto-aim off, and I can confirm it on non living things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmarkwick 261 Posted March 5, 2007 Oh hey how did you get the game Windowed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted March 5, 2007 Another, easier way would be to try it on an already dead unit, if you can hit the body in the head then you know it's auto-aim. Just tested it on a dead body, you can hit the head there. Ok, now if this slipped past BIS, I can forgive it. Jeez, this game is slowly getting to me but I still love it. And it seems that 1.05 brings a lot more bugs than it fixes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmarkwick 261 Posted March 5, 2007 -window Heh, cheers for that completely obvious, yet totally unobvious if you don't know about it Back on-topic, I recently did shoot dead bodies in the head and saw what I would expect to see - bloodied head textures. I guess there's a problem with auto-aim in that case, sounds (and looks, according to the above screenie) like it. Headshots are a necessity in ArmA IMO, for any of the reasons given in previous posts, including mine Of course the other side of the coin is - no leg shots too. Not too much reason to have leg shots, but it all adds to the mix IMO, I had great times in OFP hunting down wounded enemy using one of the blood droplet addons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Dawg KS 6 Posted March 5, 2007 Ok, this is good, I hope some people use this thread as an example of how much better it is to try to figure out what the problem is instead of mindlessly complaining, leaving BIS wandering in the dark and feeling bad. Yes, you've told us already that auto-aim was supposed to be disabled (as it said in difficulty settings), but remember when it said the same thing about tracers and they were still present (although technically disabling tracers only switches the tracer color to another value defined in the bullet's config, that value is supposed to be invisible/transparent, but doesn't have to be, and so BIS left that out, but that's a different story)? It could be that BIS accidentally bugged the option to disable auto-aim, or auto-aim itself so that it's not disabling properly. The correct course of action is to report the bug to BIS, and if you make it clear to them what the suspected problem is they'll undoubtedly correct it the next oppertunity they get. However, nobody here knows when they'll propose another patch, so you'd better expect to wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmarkwick 261 Posted March 5, 2007 Has anyone actually checked to see if the value for auto-aim is being changed in the config file? It might be possible to manually change it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Dawg KS 6 Posted March 5, 2007 Has anyone actually checked to see if the value for auto-aim is being changed in the config file? It might be possible to manually change it. Brilliant suggestion, anyone care to try? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
causticwindow911 0 Posted March 5, 2007 This is a very interesting bug. Does this affect multiplayer? I've missed a ton of shots in multiplayer, some near misses, so I would say no, but you never know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrZig 0 Posted March 5, 2007 Well in the config file in your doccuments ArmA folder, autoaim is off. Yet in the main config.cpp in Data\Bin.pbo there's a command called autoAimEnabled = true; Under the definition class CfgWeapons { class Default { The problem is we don't have a re-binarizer, so you can't edit this file and try it without errors.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Journeyman 0 Posted March 5, 2007 Ok, this is good, I hope some people use this thread as an example of how much better it is to try to figure out what the problem is instead of mindlessly complaining, leaving BIS wandering in the dark and feeling bad. No soldier sim will last long without the ability to make clean head shots! This is a major flaw and I hope BIS sorts it quickly. There have been far too many issues with this patch. BIS really needs to test much more before releasing updates and not be so pressurised by the gaming community over release dates. I was not expecting this patch so soon after release of 505 and would have been happy to wait many weeks for a properly tested one. This sort of thing just makes them look bad, and only the ‘die hard’ fans will continue to praise them now!  Fortunately I am a ‘die hard’ fan but my patience won’t last forever!  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luciano 0 Posted March 5, 2007 Why does a game like ARMA even has a built in autoaimer? Did OFP have it? If yes, I never knew about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
celery 8 Posted March 5, 2007 Why does a game like ARMA even has a built in autoaimer? Did OFP have it? If yes, I never knew about it. The legacy of consoles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites