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those lists are stupid, they have missed out loads of players that have had a better season than loads listed. Deco has had a distinctly averige season and Puyol and Eboué have not excelled enough to desreve this award either. John Terry deserves to be on that list for sure. The only section that is 100% right is the forwards.

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Liverpool won because they played better and deserved to win.

Actually, its because they scored more goals.

Many a time have I seen Forest play awesome and lose or play shite and still win.

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3 out of 3 wins biggrin_o.gif

Also 3 penalties missed in 3 games crazy_o.gif

im still quite amazed tounge2.gif

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A host of international coaches will get a first look at their charges in action this week with Italy, Germany, England, Croatia and Russia among the teams beginning new eras with friendlies.

New wave

In Wednesday's action, Italy will play their first game as FIFA World Cup winners and first under coach Roberto Donadoni against Croatia in Livorno. The 42-year-old took over when Marcello Lippi stood down after the final defeat of France in Berlin and is one of a new wave of young international coaches. Donadoni, the former AC Milan and Italy midfielder who stopped playing five years ago, has not included any of the players who won the World Cup with reserve goalkeeper Marco Amelia, who did not play in Germany, the only one of the 23 to be involved in midweek. Donadoni has included seven uncapped players in his first squad.

Mood of optimism

Croatia's coach is even younger as 37-year-old Slaven Bilić takes up the reins from the sacked Zlatko Kranjčar. Germany begin life under Joachim Löw with a home game against Sweden and a new mood of optimism in the wake of their run to the World Cup semi-finals under Jürgen Klinsmann. "The confidence we got playing with, and even dominating, some of the best teams in the world will stay with us and we can use it to our advantage," said Löw, who has promised to stick with the attacking principles of his former boss.

McClaren promoted

Steve McClaren is another No2 who has stepped up to the top job after taking over as England coach from Sven-Göran Eriksson. Unlike Löw, however, he inherits a squad low on morale after yet another dispiriting tournament exit on penalties. England play host to European champions Greece at Old Trafford where the most significant absentee will be former captain David Beckham, left out of the squad as McClaren starts to build afresh.

Dutch coaches

Dutchman Guus Hiddink, Russia's first foreign manager, takes charge against Latvia in Moscow with his latest adopted country desperately hoping he can end years of underachievement from a potential footballing super power. Another peripatetic Dutchman, Leo Beenhakker, takes the reins at Poland for the first time, away to Denmark, while former Spain coach Javier Clemente debuts in charge of Serbia - playing for the first time without their Montenegro appendage - away to Czech Republic.

EURO co-hosts

The co-hosts of UEFA EURO 2008™ begin two years of friendlies with Austria playing Hungary in Graz and Switzerland visiting Liechtenstein. Wednesday's schedule also includes the Republic of Ireland versus the Netherlands, while Norway welcome Brazil hoping to extend their unique unbeaten record against the five-times world champions having beaten them and drawn once. World Cup runners-up France are also in action, away to Bosnia-Herzegovina, when coach Raymond Domenech could give an opportunity to U21 starlets Julien Faubert, Rio Antonio Mavuba, François Clerc and Jérémy Toulalan. Before all of that, Spain travel to Iceland in one of five friendlies involving European teams on Tuesday.

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Roberto Donadoni, Luis Aragonés and Joachim Löw are just three of the coaches forced to make changes to their squads ahead of this week's international friendlies, which for many are the last before they begin their UEFA EURO 2008™ qualifying campaigns.

Italy v Croatia

ACF Fiorentina's Alessandro Gamberini has been called up by Donadoni to replace injured AC Milan defender Daniele Bonera for Wednesday's friendly in Livorno. Gamberini, 24, is the eighth uncapped player selected by new coach Donadoni with third-choice keeper Marco Amelia the only survivor from the FIFA World Cup-winning squad.

Iceland v Spain

FC Barcelona captain Carles Puyol and playmaker Xavi Hernández will miss Spain's game in Iceland on Tuesday because of minor knocks sustained on their club's tour of the United States. Iceland have also suffered a blow ahead of the Reykjavik encounter with captain Eidur Gudjohnsen, another Barcelona man, withdrawing because of injury.

Germany v Sweden

Defender Christoph Metzelder has pulled out of the Germany party for the match against Sweden due to a knee complaint picked up at the weekend. The BV Borussia Dortmund player makes way for uncapped 22-year-old Hertha BSC Berlin starlet Malik Fathi. Coach Löw's debut squad is also shorn of Michael Ballack and Sebastian Kehl. Meanwhile, Sweden No1 Andreas Isaksson has been replaced by John Alvbĺge of Viborg FF to allow the former to settle at new club Manchester City FC. Alvbĺge, 24, has two caps.

Czech Republic v Serbia

The Czech Republic will be without Tomáš Rosický for the visit to Serbia after the Arsenal FC midfielder succumbed to a groin problem. Jiří Jarošík also misses out, giving an opportunity to Hannover 96 forward Jirí Å tajner and FK Mladá Boleslav striker Marek Kulič. Serbia's new boss Javier Clemente has added Under-21 internationals MiloÅ¡ Krasić and Branislav Ivanović to his 18-man roster, as Marko Lomić and Marko BaÅ¡a are injured.

Denmark v Poland

FC Křbenhavn winger Jesper Grřnkjćr has dropped out of Denmark's team to play in Odense on Wednesday because of groin trouble. Christian Poulsen, Sřren Larsen and Daniel Jensen were earlier withdrawals.

England v Greece

Nikolaos Georgeas has received his first Greece call-up after Giourkas Seitaridis damaged an ankle in action for Club Atlético de Madrid at the weekend. The 29-year-old AEK Athens FC right-back could therefore feature for the European champions at Old Trafford on Wednesday.

Luxembourg v Turkey

Striker Gökhan Ünal is out of contention for Turkey after hurting his foot playing for Kayserispor on Sunday. Coach Fatih Terim will not replace Ünal but has drafted in a deputy for injured keeper Hakan Arýkan (hand) - Trabzonspor's Tolga Zengin.

Republic of Ireland v Netherlands

Home coach Steve Staunton has lost the services of six players for the Dublin friendly. Staunton already knew he would be without keeper Shay Given and midfielder Stephen Ireland but on Sunday, Robbie Keane, Terry Dixon, Richard Dunne and Alan Lee also withdrew. There are late call-ups for Blackburn Rovers FC midfielder Jonathan Douglas and Sunderland AFC forward Daryl Murphy. Uncapped Theo Janssen has joined the visiting party. The 25-year-old BV Vitesse midfielder comes in for Wesley Sneijder, whose wife is expecting a baby.

Romania v Cyprus

Romania coach Victor Piturca has chosen 38-year-old Dorinel Munteanu for Wednesday's fixture in the Black Sea port of Constanta. The midfielder is joined by Stefan Grigorie, recalled after a three-year absence, but injuries keep out Sorin Paraschiv and Dorin Goian. Piturca's opposite number Angelos Anastasiadis is deprived of Michalis Konstantinou while British-Cypriot defender Thomas Williams is a surprise inclusion.

Switzerland v Liechtenstein

Switzerland's Hamburger SV midfielder Raphaël Wicky has been ruled out with a calf complaint. The 29-year-old joins Valon Behrami and Philippe Senderos on Jakob Kuhn's casualty list. BSC Young Boys forward Hakan Yakin and German-based duo Marco Streller and David Degen are rated doubtful.

Wales v Bulgaria

Manager John Toshack has drafted in Cardiff City FC defender Paul Parry after David Partridge gave in to a groin injury. Jason Koumas has pulled out for personal reasons. Wales's opponents in Swansea have also made a change with PFC CSKA Sofia midfielder Velizar Dimitrov taking over from the ill Mihail Venkov.

@Radnik -Pozdrav i tebi wink_o.gif

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Congrats to Croatia for beating Italy,even they played with B team.....nah,it doesnt metter,we beat World Champion .... nener.gif

What a nice feeling... tounge2.gif

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Quote[/b] ]the Netherlands, who departed the World Cup in a bizarre match against Portugal but otherwise have looked good under Marco van Basten with a talented

Yesterday I saw the first good match in over 4 years (including the matches under Advocaat), so "looked good" is I guess "winning", too bad we would also like to see good football whistle.gif

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Champions league Third qualifying round 22.08.2006:

Austria 0:3 Benfica --->Benfica

Salzburg 0:3 Valencia --->Valencia

Milan 2:1 Crvena Zvezda --->Milan

Liverpool 1:1 M.Haifa --->Liverpool

Hamburg 1:1 Osasuna --->Hamburg(ag)

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No suprises so far smile_o.gif

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Go,go,go,go... Dinamo,lets burn the whole Emirates Stadium tonight.....   pistols.gif

                     

                    arsenaldinamozagrebxh2.jpg

PS- i just heard that Arsenal sold out the game,and that result will be 0:4 for Dinamo of course,yeahhh we are in Champions league  yay.gif    *i wish*    sad_o.gif

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Champions league Third qualifying round 23.08.2006:

Dianmo Zagreb 1:2 Arsenal --->Arsenal

Liberec 1:2 Spartak Moskva --->Spartak Moskva

Hearts  0:3 AEK --->AEK

Kobenhavn 2:0 Ajax --->Kobenhavn

Lille 1:0 Rabotnicki --->Lille

Levski 2:2 Chievo --->Levski

Galatasaray 1:1 Mlada Boleslav --->Galatasaray

Dynamo Kyiv 2:2 Fenerbahce --->Dynamo Kyiv

Shakhtar 3:2 Legia --->Shakhtar

CSKA Moskva 2:0 Ruzomberok --->CSKA Moskva

Standard 1:2 Steaua --->Steaua

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...and for the sweetest end tonight:

                MIDDLESBROUGH 2:1 CHELSEA

Congratulations to Dinamo for good display tonight and to B.B.B. for great support at the stadium   notworthy.gif

...oh yes Congrats to Middlesbrough also wink_o.gif

Chelsea ---> goodnight.gif

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Too bad about Dinamo losing - Would have been fun seeing them in champions league instead of Arsenal smile_o.gif

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Damn, I can't believe only one dutch team will be playing champions league this year... There's something wrong with teams like Ajax playing their most important matches of the season (think about the money! ) in the first week when all players are out of form and not playing as a team.

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Well, that is one advantage of the Scandinavian and Eastern European competitions having already started due to extreme winters there, the teams are clearly more used to playing together, as tonights results show (also Ruskie oil$$$ will play a part in that tounge2.gif )

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Champions League Group Draw:

GROUP A : Levski

                Chelsea

                Werder

                Barcelona

GROUP B: Spartak Moskva

              Sporting

              Inter

              Bayern

GROUP C: Liverpool

              Galatasaray

              Bordeaux

              PSV

GROUP D: Shakhtar

              Olympiacos

              Valencia

              Roma

GROUP E: Real Madrid

              Dynamo Kyiv

              Steaua

              Lyond

GROUP F: Benfica

              Manchester United

              Celtic

              Kobenhavn

GROUP G: Arsenal

              Porto

              CSKA Moskva

              Hamburg

GROUP H: AEK

              Anderlecht

              Lille

              Milan

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Matchday 1 - 12 September 2006

Group        Home      Away

 

A        Chelsea 20:45 Bremen  

A        Barcelona 20:45 Levski

B        Sporting 20:45 Inter                                   

B        Bayern 20:45 Spartak Moskva

C        Galatasaray 20:45 Bordeaux

C        PSV 20:45 Liverpool

D        Olympiacos 20:45 Valencia

D        Roma 20:45 Shakhtar

Matchday 1 - 13 September 2006 :

Group        Home           Away

E        Dynamo Kyiv 20:45 Steaua  

E        Lyon 20:45 Real Madrid

F        Man. United 20:45 Celtic  

F        Křbenhavn 20:45 Benfica  

G        Porto 20:45 CSKA Moskva  

G        Hamburg 20:45 Arsenal  

H        Anderlecht 20:45 Lille  

H        Milan 20:45 AEK

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manunited.gif

<span style='color:red'>United's flag is deepest red,

It shrouded all our Munich dead,

Before their limbs grew stiff and cold,

Their heart's blood dyed it's ev'ry fold.

Then raise United's banner high,

Beneath it's shade we'll live and die,

So keep the faith and never fear,

We'll keep the Red Flag flying here.

We'll never die, we'll never die,

We'll never die, we'll never die,

We'll keep the Red flag flying high,

'Cos Man United will never die!!</span>

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Manchester has had a great start in the Premiership, I wonder if they can keep it up. Hopefully Liverpool will win the league. smile_o.gif

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Yeah, an excellent start compared to our usual, early season form.

If i am totally honest, i....and most United fans....have had some major concerns over the last few months....what with Ruud leaving, the whole Rooney & Ronaldo issue, not winning anything major last season and us not looking like resolving our midfield problems. Then you have Chelski buying their success and Liverpool have made some good moves in the transfer market and look a strong side....but things are looking good at the moment. Carrick was a good buy, if a little expensive. Ronaldo looks better than ever and he really thrives on the boos he gets from the other fans. Scholes and Solskjaer are back and the lads look really up for it this season. Hopefully we will get another signing in before the deadline. Tevez is looking like a strong possibility.

I would be very suprised if Liverpool won the league though. It takes much more than just having a good squad to win the Premiership. They will be up there but it will be either us or Chelski.

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Hopefully we will get another signing in before the deadline. Tevez is looking like a strong possibility.

I would be very suprised if Liverpool won the league though. It takes much more than just having a good squad to win the Premiership. They will be up there but it will be either us or Chelski.

What is the point of having an exact (if somewhat less talented) copy of Wayne Rooney? Injuries are one thing, but wasting money on what could have been Rooney's brother is not going to solve anything. Someone with some height that can hang onto the ball and support the midfielders and wingers seems like a higher priority to me... confused_o.gif

Chelsea is probably going to win, they can form 4 squads that are easily capable of winning the league. Injuries don't really matter to them, if someone is out of form, they just take someone from their reservepool of over 50 players... banghead.gif

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I hate Man U, I hate Alex Ferguson, I hate Ronaldo, I hate Chelsea, I hate Drogba, I love Leeds United... yay.gifyay.gif

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Last night was a sad night for Swedish football. The derby against Djurgĺrden and Hammarby IF (two ever rivalling Stockholm teams) ended with fans running out on the pitch in frustration. Before that referees were hit by coins and god knows what else. It's really sad to see how people behave at certain sporting events. Atleast there weren't any significant ammounts of violence, and my team won 3-0... Unless the game has to be played again that is tounge2.gif

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