MF or CR...

[Guest The Cobra]

HAHA! MF is in the lead!

My vote is going to MF.

Why, is simply two things:

1. More userfriendly

2. Better layout (less complex menu)

And I know, there is ZEUS CTI also but CR is like an upgraded MF...

[Metal Heart 0]

CR because of better control over AI and lots of other improvements, like making buildings/defences so that you can preview exactly where it's gonna end up before placement and assigning new comm. It also seems less laggy, probably because there's no recycling of dead vehichles.

[InqWiper 0]

Quote[/b] ]1. More userfriendly

2. Better layout (less complex menu)

Haha.

Two things that are better with CR.

Im too tired to say everything that is better in CR  

[Gadger 0]

Quote[/b] ]1. More userfriendly

2. Better layout (less complex menu)

Haha.

Two things that are better with CR.

Im too tired to say everything that is better in CR  

Ditto, CR is better for me.

[InqWiper 0]

I belive the people that vote for MFCTI havent played enough CTI. Any of you MF fans that have played over 1000 hours CTI?

[Fork122 0]

My vote goes to CR, MFCTI is nice, but the ability to preview buildings before you place them is very nice

[RN Malboeuf 12]

actually MF is all ways played more daily, and as for AI control I would think MF is better since in CR you cannot command AI to move to a location other then a town, try being CO and having 30 tanks between 4 AI attack a base lol

wont happen

and older MF is not comparable to MFCTI.COM latest enahanced version

poll or no poll, the proof in the All Seein eye

also the problem with CR is the stock addons, this gives west a big advantage over east, and in the leagues every squad scrambles for west, the MF versions of CR are very good

also the RES on MF is harder, advanced RES now patrol towns, the coding alone allows for almost 1200 AI on the map where CR maxes 300+ depending on the map, plus CR is reducing RES Ai for soe reason to reduce lag, not sure why

so in the end a 30 man MFCTI rules, and the Ground war is insane

[zyklone 1]

actually MF is all ways played more daily, and as for AI control I would think MF is better since in CR you cannot command AI to move to a location other then a town, try being CO and having 30 tanks between 4 AI attack a base lol

wont happen

and older MF is not comparable to MFCTI.COM latest enahanced version

poll or no poll, the proof in the All Seein eye

also the problem with CR is the stock addons, this gives west a big advantage over east, and in the leagues every squad scrambles for west, the MF versions of CR are very good

also the RES on MF is harder, advanced RES now patrol towns, the coding alone allows for almost 1200 AI on the map where CR maxes 300+ depending on the map, plus CR is reducing RES Ai for soe reason to reduce lag, not sure why

so in the end a 30 man MFCTI rules, and the Ground war is insane

Your crusade against the people you copy code from continues I see.

The mfcti.com version is basically MF 1.16 with patches copied from crCTI. You are basically stealing code from others and claiming it as your own. Removing the notices and changing a few variable names is not coding. Anyone can see through it.

Let's take your points.

There are no limits in crCTI on how many AI you can have, more is not necessarily better for gameplay.

The amount of resistance in the towns at the start is easily configured by the one porting the mission to an island, there are plenty of crCTI versions with more resistance, again more does not necessarily lead to better gameplay.

As for not being able to tell AI to move to other places than towns, what do you think "Patrol Area" does? ;)

As for amount of players, Coward Heart made a 28 player version. But gameplay does not necessarily improve just by adding more players.

You seem to get hung up on bigger, more and faster. That's not what's important in game design, perhaps it's in overclocking, stick to that.

[InqWiper 0]

actually MF is all ways played more daily, and as for AI control I would think MF is better since in CR you cannot command AI to move to a location other then a town, try being CO and having 30 tanks between 4 AI attack a base lol

wont happen

and older MF is not comparable to MFCTI.COM latest enahanced version

poll or no poll, the proof in the All Seein eye

also the problem with CR is the stock addons, this gives west a big advantage over east, and in the leagues every squad scrambles for west, the MF versions of CR are very good

also the RES on MF is harder, advanced RES now patrol towns, the coding alone allows for almost 1200 AI on the map where CR maxes 300+ depending on the map, plus CR is reducing RES Ai for soe reason to reduce lag, not sure why

so in the end a 30 man MFCTI rules, and the Ground war is insane

I think hexelkessel is played more daily than Ironfist and BECH together, that does not mean its better.

Have you tried placing a commander WP on the map and telling the AI to patrol that area?

I dont think west has a big advantage over east in CTI. The infantry is balaced, west has better tanks but east has better helicopters. Sure you might say the AH-64 is better but I dont agree. The Mi-24 can take more damage and can carry infantry which is very nice in CTI and if you want a pure attack helicopter the V-80 has 12 AT-missiles instead of 8 (I think it can also take more dmage and I know its more agile).

[>Hoyt< 0]

Quote[/b] ]also the RES on MF is harder, advanced RES now patrol towns,

MF res is not hard It´s one of many ridicules things about MFCTI, where AI just stands there and let´s it´s self get shot. They get in danger mode once a bullet has been fired or when they spotted you. This makes it easy to take alot of towns with only granades that you trow in the center. crCTI also has patrolling tanks wich makes it even harder to take and hold towns. Basicly if you just started CTI the best thing is to play MFCTI where you get alot of money for some easy stuff. crCTI on the other hand is for those who seek a challange.

What I mostly like about crCTI is what Fork122 said. That placing buildings is really awsome.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Your crusade against the people you copy code from continues I see.

The mfcti.com version is basically MF 1.16 with patches copied from crCTI. You are basically stealing code from others and claiming it as your own. Removing the notices and changing a few variable names is not coding. Anyone can see through it.

If you think so lol, or if you can post which code your talking about lol

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Have you tried placing a commander WP on the map and telling the AI to patrol that area?

I dont think west has a big advantage over east in CTI. The infantry is balaced, west has better tanks but east has better helicopters. Sure you might say the AH-64 is better but I dont agree. The Mi-24 can take more damage and can carry infantry which is very nice in CTI and if you want a pure attack helicopter the V-80 has 12 AT-missiles instead of 8 (I think it can also take more dmage and I know its more agile).

with MF there is a consistant 50/50 win for east and west, I dont think iether side has better chopper, the pilot skill has more to do with it

in CR league its consistant West wins or Draws, East has major problems and ever ysquad opts for west when starting a match, explain that whay out of 1 year a play we are east ever time we are the away team?

only once in 30 matches did we get west as the away team

the AI patroling an area works fine in MFCTI.COM

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Quote[/b] ]also the RES on MF is harder, advanced RES now patrol towns,

MF res is not hard It´s one of many ridicules things about MFCTI, where AI just stands there and let´s it´s self get shot. .

they do the exact same thing in CR, this is do difference, MF ver 1.40 now has patroling RES for each town, this doubles or on some Larger maps tripples the RES AI, in some cases there are almost 50 soldiers in a town, I dont think you even played the latests version

[ade_mcc 0]

sorry for what may be an obvious question, but is MFCTI v1.17 and MFCTI.COM v1.40 two seperate CTI's; two similar CTI's or two versions of the same CTI?

Im just a bit confused.

[>Hoyt< 0]

Quote[/b] ]also the RES on MF is harder, advanced RES now patrol towns,

MF res is not hard It´s one of many ridicules things about MFCTI, where AI just stands there and let´s it´s self get shot. .

they do the exact same thing in CR, this is do difference, MF ver 1.40 now has patroling RES for each town, this doubles or on some Larger maps tripples the RES AI, in some cases there are almost 50 soldiers in a town, I dont think you even played the latests version  

No they dont. Latest version of what? The topic is MFCTI or crCTI not a modification of the two. As far as I remember in MFCTI the res just stands there and takes it, do I have to show you a video or a screenshot?

If you wan´t a good modification of these, then I would say LOELcti is pretty good.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

sorry for what may be an obvious question, but is MFCTI v1.17 and MFCTI.COM v1.40 two seperate CTI's; two similar CTI's or two versions of the same CTI?

Im just a bit confused.

MFCTI.COM is upgraded bug free version of MFCTI 1.17, all the coding is the same with just the fixes needed to add more balance and playablity, Mike has helped with the code now and then and with sugestions but has had no time to finish his work

[RN Malboeuf 12]

No they dont. Latest version of what? The topic is MFCTI or crCTI not a modification of the two. As far as I remember in MFCTI the res just stands there and takes it, do I have to show you a video or a screenshot?

If you wan´t a good modification of these, then I would say LOELcti is pretty good.

you need to download MFCTI.COM ver 1.40 and test before you make comments on playabilty

RES now has super snipers/MGs patroling towns, most ppl get popped a few minutes into attacking a town buy a RES AI from across the town or from behind them since its totally random Patrol

Old MFCTI they do just stand around, just like they do in ALL current version of CR, CR only has a few wondering tanks, that do nothing but die between towns and cause no major change in playablity other then alerting ememy scouts where your base start is

that and CR averages 100 RES AI in the towns while ours is close to 600+ (origonal MF was about 230 RES) for some reason CR believed reducing RES AI will reduce lag, but this is only on lowerend servers like his 2.0 that us used to have

and now MFCTI has its well used 30 man CTI, with maxim 1200 AI total but normally peaks 800 AI

CR Maps cant handle that many AI due to scripting he uses to watch over units, I tried to explain it to him but he does not understand, Dont get me wrong, he is an excilent coder, just not very practical

I'll take MF's 800 AI Peak compared to CRs 200 Peak any day

[zyklone 1]

sorry for what may be an obvious question, but is MFCTI v1.17 and MFCTI.COM v1.40 two seperate CTI's; two similar CTI's or two versions of the same CTI?

Im just a bit confused.

MFCTI.COM is upgraded bug free version of MFCTI 1.17, all the coding is the same with just the fixes needed to add more balance and playablity, Mike has helped with the code now and then and with sugestions but has had no time to finish his work

Bug Free?

That's quite a claim, especially since you havn't fixed the flag taking bug yet. But I guess it's always sunny in fantasy land.

[russin 0]

enhanced mike melvins MFCTI all the way and looking at the all seeing eye or OFP watch shows who plays what more also CR is limited to 7vs7 players i do beleave where regular MF maps are 9v9 and upto 15vs15

CR commanders job is allmost GONE as there are only four building to build and they come with full upgrades where in MF you must upgrade barrack light heavy and air factory this has been elimanated in CR make for a really boring game for the commander.

players can disband (killing) there AI witch i see as a Exploit if base is going to be attacked players can kill all there AI and build new AI to protect base pure lamage MF you are stuck with your AI

[RN Malboeuf 12]

MFCTI.COM is upgraded bug free version of MFCTI 1.17, all the coding is the same with just the fixes needed to add more balance and playablity, Mike has helped with the code now and then and with sugestions but has had no time to finish his work

Bug Free?

That's quite a claim, especially since you havn't fixed the flag taking bug yet. But I guess it's always sunny in fantasy land.

ours was fixed as of 1.40

CRs 1.51 still has this problem, we had it this league match with Hotshots, feel free to look at CRs 1.51 bug fixes

[sanctuary 19]

MFCTI 1.7 ? MFCTI 1.40 ?

On the MFCTI website, the latest version from Mike Melvin is 1.16a

What is different from the official MFCTI in those fan made 1.17 and 1.40, is there some changelog to read somewhere ?

[russin 0]

ya in the forums but they are down ATM malbo can probally supply a complete list of changes/fix's some things i know off hand are clean up scripts and ammo bug remover for one many others i can't think of and also interduced the 15vs15 witch is amazing to play huge battles

[sanctuary 19]

Thanks , a nice list of changes would be welcomed.

There are so many cti variant everywhere that it begins to be difficult to know exactly in what they can be different from other variants or the original.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

www.mfcti.com

the change log is in the forums, but with our server change something goofed up, I might have php fixed tonight, we own the web server and moved from a linux to a win server and PHP coding needs to be altered, i might have missed the MF site

Most Hard Core CTI servers all use MFCTI.com now, all over 3.4 ghz, pure power servers

[RN Malboeuf 12]

also with the bug fixes and the script enhancing we can now run MFwith 800 AI peak on a 3.0+ ghz server from the old version which was about about 230 and we can handle 15v15 where CR is 7v7 and still lags with less players and less AI

Quote[/b] ]v1.40

Advance RES AI patrols

Deadbody fix

Extended money exfers (send more $$ at once)

added time delays to build menus to stop lag multy builds

v1.18

advanced Ammo Bug Removal Script

Player Send money Lag Cheat fixed by adding a timedelay

Build lag cheat, fixed by increasing the build delay

v0.98

Minor Bug: Wont Allow Two man Tanks (cept AA) when Addin Manned Vehicles to players who have 10 men

Price Adjustment for A10s and SU (a10 has no rockets)

Version 0.80

Radar limit Para replaced with 1000/1500)

Setview Distances built into map (1000/1500)

Sandbags removed

Tank Traps added

removed Chinook (is gay)

minor main.sqs realinement

Version 0.34

Mortor Stations: Max Mortors = 1

HE Stations: Max HE = 2

AA Stations: Max AA= 2

Fixed Limited Radar Max Vehicles went from 10 to 40

Max Vehicle Displayed to 100 (found some maps left to 70)

Version 0.30

Health Errors removed

Skill Errors fixed (some were 0.2, all set to 0.6)

Weapons and Ammo Removed from MHQs

Added Ammo Bug Remover Script (options/help)

Max Vehicle Displayed to 400

AI Commanders Removed from Tanks

Price Adjustments made based on more Tactical Game:

Air Upgrades Increased

Radar Upgrade Increased

AA Stations  Increased

HE Stations  Increased

Mortor Stations  Increased

Heavy Ammo Boxs Increased

Jets  Increased

Tanks  Decreased and balanced out

Choppers  Increased

AA Soldiers  Increased

LAW Soldiers  Increased

AT Soldiers  Increased

Added Cessna Cost $3000

Moved OH58 to Upgrade Air Craft