Malvinas Mod Open Beta 3 released

[Tomcat_CDM 0]

I wish to make some comments:

*Mercedez G240 CTD: There is a KNOWN bug but it does NOT happen to everybody. SO, it would be great to know WHEN exactly happens and under which circumstances.

*Info / Credits: The credits are property of their owners. In this release I couldn't make an extended readme on time to be released on April 2nd as we wished to be. Sorry for that.

*About Sides: Please stop complaining about political stuff.

WE DO AS B.I.S. DO. West is WEST. East is EAST.

If I look a map when it says WEST doesn't mean GOOD PEOPLE or Domocracy or whatever.

Argentina is over the West an UK is over the EAST it's exactly the same as USA is over the West from Russia.

[Stuphor 0]

Great mod this is, in the words of Yoda.

However, I thought that sides were not geographically dfecided but literally by side.

What I'm trying to say is that US and UK have always been allies (apart from that whole war of independance thing )

So, surely the UK should be west and the Argentines resistance as they are not a direct/political enemy of the US.

[mattmayhem 0]

Well technically Argentina and the US aren't exactly enemies either, just look at their Navy and Air Force which has a large amount of US stuff, most of their ships, subs, etc were given/bought from ther Americans. Not to mention the Uh-1s or the Skyhawks or their helmets. Anyways, since these units are mostly all specific to the Falklands it shouldint be a huge problem. If you want to use the Brits for non-falklands stuff you can easily mod the config file.

[CanadianTerror 0]

Quote[/b] ]*About Sides: Please stop complaining about political stuff.

WE DO AS B.I.S. DO. West is WEST. East is EAST.

If I look a map when it says WEST doesn't mean GOOD PEOPLE or Domocracy or whatever.

It'd be nice if people could understand...

"GAMEPLAY"

WW2 addons for example.

Russia is not on the East side. The Germans are.

People just want to use these addons with other addons.

For the 10th time.

[FireflyPL 0]

It'd be nice if people could understand...

"GAMEPLAY"

WW2 addons for example.

Russia is not on the East side. The Germans are.

People just want to use these addons with other addons.

For the 10th time.

Exactelly. Sad part is that this mod is going to die if it cant be used with another parties addons. That's really stupid

[PainDealer 0]

hooray this one's still alive! definately gonna check it out.

*EDIT*

very good stuff indeed. but is there only one spanish voice actor? kinda sounds like IL-2 Sturmovik cos everyone has the same voice anyway it's still a beta so keep it up guys!

[eestikas88 0]

Wow indeed but i got few ctd so i removed it.

Who made this mod should repair it a lot.

[Jimpy 0]

However, some of the para units have green smocks with DPM pants instead of DPM smocks and green pants.

Please someone with more expert knowledge of this conflict

correct me if I am mistaken but I believe some Marines wore

green anoraks due to a lack of the Arctic issue DPM smocks.

So green smocks and DPM "pants" would be acceptable. I

recall only Naval Party 8901 (the Marine unit on the Falklands

at the time of the invasion) wearing DPM jackets and green

lightweight trousers. The Marines were also famous for

wearing "Dr. Martens AirWear" boots, which the press at

the time  seemed to be very excited about!

My biggest complaint just now with the "Malvinas mod" British

figures is that their webbing equipment looks nothing like the

real thing, the pouches are the wrong shape and it just

doesn't look "bulky" enough.

[mattmayhem 0]

Thanks Jimpy. I started to figure that the green smocks were some sort of special artic jacket when I noticed the Mountain and Arctic warfare cadre had some units wearing them aswell while I was making a mission to re-capture Top Maylo House.

[BlackScorpion 0]

It'd be nice if people could understand...

"GAMEPLAY"

WW2 addons for example.

Russia is not on the East side. The Germans are.

People just want to use these addons with other addons.

For the 10th time.

I guess we need more complicated side system in OFP 2 then...

Anyways...

Yeah, they're nice.

Due the side issue, I might do a Brit vs Brit missions... "UK Civil war".

[Jimpy 0]

I guess we need more complicated side system in OFP 2 then...

Anyways...

Yeah, they're nice.

Due the side issue, I might do a Brit vs Brit missions... "UK Civil war".

Just stop calling it West/East. Call it Red/Blue/Yellow/Green or

whatever and make it simple to change the allegiance in game.

A "UK civil war"? Saturday night in any UK town with a big army base...    

Quote:

Journalist: "So if you had no weapons what would you use?

Marine: "My mate"

Journalist: "What? Your mate?"

Marine: "Yeah, the last time we were in a fight I picked up my

mate and hit the other guys with him"

Journalist: "What did your mate say?"

Marine: "Aaargh!"

[ag_smith 0]

It'd be nice if people could understand...

"GAMEPLAY"

WW2 addons for example.

Russia is not on the East side. The Germans are.

People just want to use these addons with other addons.

For the 10th time.

Exactelly. Sad part is that this mod is  going to die if it cant be used with another parties addons. That's really stupid

Couldn't agree more.

Keep being that stubborn and at one point you'll end up making these addons only for yourself, because nobody else will use them.

I'm not going to modify that many separate configs by myself, only to do it again after the next update. This is where I go and hit [Delete]. Thanks for your time and shame on you.

[Jimpy 0]

The "geographical" reasoning behind the Western allegiance

of the units is irrelevant.

Maybe the incompatibility with "another parties" addons was

intentional? The Malvinas mod is created by Argentinians,

whose spokesperson has "the Malvinas are Argentinian"

inspired quotations on his postings. So one is clearly meant

to play the Malvinas mod as the Argentinians. That's OK,

I don't have any problem with that at all, especially since it

is meant to be a complete mod.

Personally, I have more patience. I won't just delete them

because I have to do a bit of tweaking. My main criterion is

if the units are well designed and accurate, and, if it's a

complete mod, whether the units offered are comprehensive.

The Malvinas units generally are, on both counts. Thanks

indeed to the Malvinas mod guys for the considerable amount

of work that they have done on this.

[PainDealer 0]

one thing I forgot to mention: inthe mission editor everything is in spanish and quite unsorted. difficult to find the proper killing machines. or then I should just dig up the read me from my trashcan

[Jimpy 0]

Yes, in Argentina they have a bad habit of speaking Spanish.

How inconsiderate of them!

[FireflyPL 0]

Yes, in Argentina they have a bad habit of speaking Spanish.

How inconsiderate of them!  

C'mon who are they doing this for then? Uncompatible mod, mostly in spanish, lots of CTDs. Sorry but thats lame

[Chris Young 3]

If Argentina couldn't be East from UK, maybe you can make the UK West, because during the cold war they were on the "West" side, and then put Argentinian units in the Resistance side, which is quite logical, because Argentina began the war to recover a territory that Argentinians consider as their.

It would be too stupid not to keep this mod for such a little problem... but this is what would probably happen.

[mattmayhem 0]

The CTDs have not been that bad for me, now I just don't use the G-wagon (which isint essential anyways) and its all good.

Sure I wish the British were west but It does not matter because they are part of a larger mod and not an independant addon. If I want to use parts of the british side with other addons I'll just edit the configs.

[Jimpy 0]

C'mon who are they doing this for then? Uncompatible mod, mostly in spanish, lots of CTDs. Sorry but thats lame  

I presume they are doing it because they are patriotic

Argentinians who are interested in representing that part of

their military history. That we can also download it and play

with it is a priviledge for which I, for one, am grateful. The

mod is completely compatible with my Operation Flashpoint

installation and I suppose it's in Spanish because it's built by

and for Spanish speakers. CTDs are a common experience

when dealing with a beta version of any software.

@mattmayhem: I totally agree.

[ag_smith 0]

Well, guess what!? I absolutely don't care who this God forsaken piece of land in the middle of nowhere should lawfully belong to. I just want to play the game. ... and in the current form this mod is far from being so complete that I didn't want to use any other addons along with these ones. Am I asking for too much?

Same goes for the Spanish-English translation. It'd take less than an hour to make appropriate stringtable.csv translations. So little time to make things look like they're made by professionals.

[cervomix 0]

That's called an open beta, it's not supposed to be a final and complete product. I'm sad to read such comments, which are the first reasons why addonmakers stop and leave...

[Monkey Lib Front 10]

hear hear cerv, id be the 1st to complain about the brits being on the east but i don't, I won't constantly whine about it i've commented on it before around a year ago. Do you know why i don't say anything? because it's not my mod, just like you wont place any trees in the mountains of CAT's afghanistan island they are doing what they feel is right, i remember you saying i could always edit the island myself and i did and i throughly enjoy playing my version of the island, why not take a little of your own advice and if as stated you don't wan't to do it please don't derail this thread with a discussion that has gone and been sorted.

[CanadianTerror 0]

Quote[/b] ]Do you know why i don't say anything? because it's not my mod

What's the point in even having an addons discussion section in the forum then?

[FireflyPL 0]

I presume they are doing it because they are patriotic

Patriotic?? Are you insane that you seem not to see the difference between game and RL? I m not British nor Argentinian and I don't give a shit about it.

Argentinians who are interested in representing that part of

their military history. That we can also download it and play

with it is a priviledge for which I, for one, am grateful. The

mod is completely compatible with my Operation Flashpoint

installation and I suppose it's in Spanish because it's built by

and for Spanish speakers. CTDs are a common experience

when dealing with a beta version of any software.

Many people already said their complaints about sides issue. If creators don't care about it they shouldn't release this mod anyway. If they want to do it for themselves then why the hell they put it on official forum?? I think mods are made for players not for makers.

I can't play this mod if I can't play 3rd party addons. I.e. I want to use addons like Land Rovers or USA planes forced to land on Falklands, or maybe some more modern soldiers from other mods and guess what? I cant because of this moronish attitude toward sides!!

[Monkey Lib Front 10]

Quote[/b] ]Do you know why i don't say anything? because it's not my mod

What's the point in even having an addons discussion section in the forum then?

I guess you read the post to select that one quote out of context, I already stated i have commented on it and there is no point on beating a dead horse which the side of the Argies certainly is. It's the mod makers decision as to what side they want the Argies on, the community has already had this discussion on the issue after the last release.