deathguy 0 Posted January 13, 2002 Look at this! Never knew what come out of the big gun? Is it me or the missile is bigger than the gun?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathguy 0 Posted January 13, 2002 Thanks, was worry for a second there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wobble 1 Posted January 13, 2002 that looks like about the correct size.. if I remember the fins of the CG fold out when it leaves the tube.. to the projectile itself is ALMOST as wide as the tube. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPAEM 3 Posted January 13, 2002 that rocket looks like a TOW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Assault (CAN) 1 Posted January 14, 2002 OFP's realism has its gaps. Its what you get when civvies build a game. But its a minor thing. The CG does not fire a rocket. It fires a shell, it's a recoiless rifle. Back in '85 the CG heat round would have had a stand-off spike at its tip. It is also operated by a crew of 2. In "real" life, the 2 man crew could carry 3 rounds. 1 in the rifle, the other 2 in the weather-proof case. Tyler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FetishFool 0 Posted January 14, 2002 It's more impressive to see the bullets come out of a gun. But nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MP 0 Posted January 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FetishFool @ Jan. 14 2002,00:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's more impressive to see the bullets come out of a gun. But nice.<span id='postcolor'> I've tried this myself useing the setacctime command but all you see is long streak's of light. No actual bullet's. I had the time slowed down to 0.001. Now that's damn slow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkraver 1 Posted January 14, 2002 Hmmm was a gunner on a CG and if i remember right the AT shell has a small rocket engine secondly we also worked as a two man team but was carrying two shot each with 6 rounds more on our vehicle. And we never had one in the rifle when walking around because the safety isnt that safe  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman 0 Posted January 14, 2002 I´ve fired some CG shots and I must say that the picture above is alittle wrong... When U fire a CG, there is a fireblast behind the shooter as it is a recoiless rifle (as stated before), not infront of the shooter (as in the picture). U cannot fire the CG in or from a closed environment (like a house or vehicle) because of this backblast. And IRL U dont want anyone behind U when U shoot. CG´s are always operated by 2-3 man teams (shooter, loader and sometimes spotter). The CG is quite a lumbersome weapon, weighing 13-14 kg and the ammunition 4-5 kg. And doesnt the shooter in the picture hold the weapon wrong? He has the weapon on the right shoulder but he fires with his left hand? Thats not how I remember it...I could be wrong tho..someone confirm?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishu 0 Posted January 14, 2002 Sandman, There is no backblast in front of shooter, it's the rockets backblast in OFP rocket launchers doesn't have any kind of backblast, not in front or back, just the rockets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent wings 0 Posted January 14, 2002 it is a game, we are very far away from a time when games are that close to reality. the developers have done a superb job, im sure botanist would be able to pick out flaws in the design of the trees!!!but that would be absurd, just like your nitpicking now.GROW UP ITS A FUCKING GAME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted January 14, 2002 Some people (like myself) may find it interresting to read about what its really like when the game is wrong. And if some people find stuff like this maybe they will change the look in next release. So as long as the flaws are being pointed out we could get closer to RL (if anyone cares to fix it). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (silent wings @ Jan. 14 2002,11:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">GROW UP ITS A FUCKING GAME<span id='postcolor'> If you disagree with someone's view then fine, but there's no need for that kind of talk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted January 14, 2002 I just put accTime to 0.1 or something and I can see the rocket Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman 0 Posted January 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Fishu @ Jan. 14 2002,11:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sandman, There is no backblast in front of shooter, it's the rockets backblast in OFP rocket launchers doesn't have any kind of backblast, not in front or back, just the rockets.<span id='postcolor'> Hehe, Ok...U got me...thanks for pointing that out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman 0 Posted January 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (silent wings @ Jan. 14 2002,12:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it is a game, we are very far away from a time when games are that close to reality. the developers have  done a superb job, im sure botanist would be able to pick out flaws in the design of the trees!!!but that would be absurd, just like your nitpicking now.GROW UP ITS A FUCKING GAME<span id='postcolor'> Hey! Hold your horses mate....I dont think anyone was actually complaining ´bout the game here. There´s no need for you to start yelling about people growing up. However, going into "aggresive mode" and jump right into the thread and tell people to grow up is somewhat childish... But I do agree with U at one point - the developers have done a great job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rekrul 7 Posted January 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I´ve fired some CG shots and I must say that the picture above is alittle wrong... When U fire a CG, there is a fireblast behind the shooter as it is a recoiless rifle (as stated before), not infront of the shooter (as in the picture). U cannot fire the CG in or from a closed environment (like a house or vehicle) because of this backblast. And IRL U dont want anyone behind U when U shoot. CG´s are always operated by 2-3 man teams (shooter, loader and sometimes spotter). The CG is quite a lumbersome weapon, weighing 13-14 kg and the ammunition 4-5 kg. And doesnt the shooter in the picture hold the weapon wrong? He has the weapon on the right shoulder but he fires with his left hand? Thats not how I remember it...I could be wrong tho..someone confirm?!?<span id='postcolor'> The AT is a rocket, however the rocket engine doesn't start before ~70m away from the gunner (so the fins get out and the rocket is stabilized) and I do belive thats approx the same distance for when it's armed, meaning if you hit a tank 50m away, it might just bounce of it unless the tank has reactive armour. Furthermore the speed of the rocket is initially 320m/s (out of the 'tube') and weighs 3.7kg if I remember correctly. The AT rocket is also black, not green. Furthermore, the gun is not held correctly by the model. His right hand should be on the trigger and it is standard to lay prone when firing it, unless it's illumi shells wich operates with a 20 or 25 degree where you would fire it standing up. There's no SOP for standing on your knee firing it as it would be too unstable (Illumi grenades don't demand _that high an accuracy). You would use your left hand on a front grip that is not included in the OFP model. This front grip is on a slightly diff. angle than the gungrip and is adjustable but not in an easy operation. (You'd have to loosen a couple of screws, change it, then tighten them again). The sights (wich is also wrong in OFP) has two scales. One for AT, one for HE/Smoke (Illumi has it's own add-on sight based on degrees) and is crosshair with diff marks along both horizontal and vertical axis for compensating for speed, angle, etc of the tank. This is because of the weight diff. and because the HE shell (wich do not have a rocket engine) is supposed to ideally hit approx 10-15 m above the target for maximum damage. This is set by a range scale on the granades tip. It will also detonate on impact but will have less spread and killing zone. Smoke only detonates on impact. A funny episode was when a friend of mine fired an AT rocket at a tank but with the HE scale and not the AT scale. The AT rocket flew in a perfect curve 10m above the tank and would've been a perfect bullseye had it been a HE rocket not an AT rocket. I was on the CG for two years in the Norwegian Army although the last year was more rifleman than AT man. We operated with a 3 man crew, one gunner, one loader (2 shells), one spotter (aka slave) with 4 shells. Thats ~16kg extra for the spotter. This was just to correct you on the RL CG, not a demand to BIS. -Rekrul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathguy 0 Posted January 14, 2002 Well, just a picture and we get all of a story of what is the CG in reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benze 0 Posted January 14, 2002 The LAW uses the same rocket, WAY BIGGER than the launcher: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benze 0 Posted January 14, 2002 If you look closely at the muzzle flash (which only happens for about 0.01 of a second) you can see a little yellow line. This is all you see of the bullet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benze 0 Posted January 14, 2002 The grenade, also to big to fit inside the M203: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 14, 2002 What about things like grenade launcher, and tank shells? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites