orson 0 Posted September 23, 2004 MetaVR These are industry standard 3D addons for the MetaVR system, now i am sure you will agree that we get to play with far better kit than this FOR FREE !! MetaVR T-80  = $25,000.00 Ofp T-80     = oh thats right ... FREE ! Dont really know if this needed a thread  , but i'm basicaly saying look at what we have .... its a good thing  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoweryBaker 0 Posted September 23, 2004 What's MetaVR? Why do they charge so much for a tank in a video game? They act like they got to travel to africa to cut the metal out of rock and form it in a factory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted September 23, 2004 Well, the models are at least very detailed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orson 0 Posted September 23, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Well, the models are at least very detailed They work on a minimum of 10,000 faces with 5 lod's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilco 944 Posted September 24, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Multiple firing modes for an individual weapon, with enhanced sighting devices: single-shot, semi-automatic, fully automatic, thermal, flashlight, and so onComplete soldier animation, which includes lying in a prone position, crawling, kneeling, standing, walking, running, and falling after being shot which match appearance bits in the DIS Entity State PDU Joystick-controlled walking and running speeds Sound effects, such as walking, weapons fire, and battlefield background sounds Collision detection, for example when a soldier collides with building walls, and cannot walk through buildings Reticle cross hairs and laser pointer toggle on the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick 3rd person mode, which is similar to the “tethered-fixed” stealth mode User definable guns Advanced sound effects, such as changing clips, out-of-ammo, and the sound of a soldier getting hit User-configurable data tables that map markings on the front and back of a soldier to participant names Unstick function to climb over obstacles as high as four feet, such as fences, and guard rails User-definable ammo types and number of rounds-per-clip User-definable damage assessment for modeling features such as body armor User-definable re-incarnation period for demonstrations and training Pretty much what Operation Flashpoint has. [ig]http://www.metavr.com/images/FPS-MOUT-075.jpg[/img]>100kb Animations are top notch. *sarcasm* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpecOp9 0 Posted September 24, 2004 I still dont even know what the hell this is... I'm guessing some big ass everything in the world simulator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sv5000 127 Posted September 24, 2004 The models looks cool, but I am more interested in the camo patterns on them, would love to see them on an ofp tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Homefry 0 Posted September 24, 2004 I will say they have a good texture artist... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted September 24, 2004 Pretty much what Operation Flashpoint has. Quote[/b] ]Collision detection, for example when a soldier collides with building walls, and cannot walk through buildings I will say that while the models are pretty damn expensive, and so should be top notch, the models are indeed better than those of OFP, although some user-made models I've seen come close. By the way, last I checked, OFP's T-80 model wasn't free, I had to buy the game to get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted September 24, 2004 I will say they have a good texture artist... The pictures are directly converted, that is where they get their textures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stgn 39 Posted September 24, 2004 here's OFP mentioned and a picture of the M1A1: OFP M1A1 STGN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kerosene 0 Posted September 24, 2004 Looking around on their website gives you a new perspective on the cost of VBS1 too. It looks like the full setup would be at least $100,000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kegetys 2 Posted September 24, 2004 Ofp T-80 Â Â Â Â = oh thats right ... FREE ! OFP isn't free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shinRaiden 0 Posted September 24, 2004 Ah, marketing FUD. Rather than post something like Sigma's tanks or another addon similarly made by experts with way too much time on their hands, they pull the original BIS model as-is and use it to say that OFP sucks. Compared to the other stuff out there though, BIS's stuff was/is so much superior. Do we hear about EA having built their own MC studio and renting tanks and crawling all over them? I think not. One of MetaVR's staff reviewed OFP from a MetaVR perspective here. He claims he reviewed the GOTY edition, but evidently he didn't try out any of the post CWC materials. Quote[/b] ]One has to assume motion capture was used to achieve this effect. What kind of crack is this guy smoking? And he claims to do an honest review? Quote[/b] ] The lack of checkpoints in the game is bothersome. Checkpoints are autosaves midway into a level. Without these essential checkpoints you are sure to play some parts of the level over and over again. Let me guess... you died, right? What did you expect, hit the chat box and type "poweroverwhelming"? Quote[/b] ] This menu appears when you first enter the game. It isn't nice looking and it is confusing and frustrating to use. You might want to go online and play a multiplayer game but just finding one through this menu might take ten minutes. This is regarding the initial main menu screen... big hint... "M u l t i p l a y e r"... He also posts pictures of the CWC M1A1 and the MetaVR equivelent side by side, but guess which has a zoom-in shot and which does not? Sigh. His biggest complaint is the bad clipping problems, well if you scroll up to screenshot posted above by Wilco, it clips too, the anims are worse, and honestly, are no shadows better than blocky shadows? Yeah, OFP ties at 9.3 out of 10 with Rainbow Six 3, but how is vehicles present == vehicles usable? I give his review a 5 out of 10 in suck-up factor, and a -9.3 (yes, negative) in competancy. ------------------------ Just looked around some more. They claim terrain detail up to 1m resolution, but most of their stuff is not that high res. True, OFP only supports 'real' data at 50m resolution in 2d coords (but better on the elevations), and much of MetaVR's screen shot's are at 16m resolution, but OFP's 'normal' detail mimics 12.5m, and very_high is similar to what you might expect from 3.125m, and it looks like MetaVR only goes up to 1m. Not bad for a 'very old' game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BraTTy 0 Posted September 25, 2004 550$ for a controller? They are nutz.Alot of the vehicles are blocky and alot don't even have tire treads.The motorcycles look funky and something is messed up with their back wheels.The A10 model looks nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 25, 2004 who's this Connard ? I experienced an intense feeling of pity when I saw his face and what was written about him. Someone should tell him to wake up and test a few more things esp. Resistance and 3rd party addons... well, maybe his employer forbids him to do so ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted September 25, 2004 If he's going to compare simulations, hasn't he heard of something called VBS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanctuary 19 Posted September 25, 2004 On another note, i have difficulties to imagine someone paid by the MetaVR folks to say that Operation Flashpoint is better , cheaper and have a better quality/price ratio than MetaVR on the MetaVR website That said, despite he is from the MetaVR staff, his review of OFP showed that he really loves the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 25, 2004 well, we hsould burn down the offices of his employer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orson 0 Posted September 25, 2004 @ everyone who said " Ofp isnt free " , i was refering to user made addons with a higher detail level , like the RHS pack or VIT apc's or BAS helo's , Sebastian Mullers everything , Marfy , OW , FDF , Inv44 .. the list is endless . All work for FREE ! Â but as you see , the industry charges up to $25,000.00 Â for work of this callibre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites