Commando84 0 Posted August 8, 2004 it seems that every third server i try to join i get kicked off because they don't like me having custom faces or custom sounds or that got to many addons installed in modfolders... Im getting nutz when they kick me because i have the ecp mod or that i have 10 kb to much of custom sounds Okay i understand some people do everything to stop cheaters but i think its going to far I love everything thats custom so i get very annoyed when people kick me out when i try to join public servers, if you don't want any people with custom sounds or so it should be written in server name so that you don't have to sometimes wait 60 seconds before getting kicked off.. like no addons plz or something im wondering if public servers are any good to play at at all. Im gonna play private servers only or something :P any one got any ideas what i should do except for don't have ecp mod or don't use custom sounds... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laulau 0 Posted August 8, 2004 first you're kicked because of sound size or face size, perhaps. second, go on servers which allow such things and you won't be kicked anymore. that's my advices... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted August 8, 2004 Memorize what servers you can play on or remove your custom face and sounds or reduce the size. You cant seriously belive servers will stop autokicking people with too big custom files because of this thread? If there was no limit on custom file size it would take years to connect to a server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commando84 0 Posted August 8, 2004 hmm well i thought that kb is like nothing so that shouldn't affect the server so much i got 119 kb of custom sounds and its like 10 small .ogg files, does it mean that i got to many? my face.jpg file is 18 kb and thats like nothing I have 10 custom sound files and i think thats to little, i would like to have 20 custom sound files so that they can be more usable, stuff like enemy chopper behind you and taunt the enemies and yeah well mfcti usable sounds like out money or stuff like that Well maybe i can remove a sound or 2 but i don't want to remove my bruce willis face because it really is the best face Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedyDonkey 0 Posted August 8, 2004 Not to mention how annoying the sounds are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanAK47 1 Posted August 8, 2004 That 119 kb is sent to each player.. Not just to the server. And I heard (NOT SURE!!) that ECP can cause MP problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russin 0 Posted August 8, 2004 if your playing CTI you will will get kicked from Roughneks server ECP is used to cheat in CTI so loss your ECP or hisky before joining.. no file limit on our server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr burns 132 Posted August 8, 2004 if your playing CTI you will will get kicked from Roughneks server ECP is used to cheat in CTI so loss your ECP or hisky before joining.. no file limit on our server. how do u get to know that people use ecp or hisky ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kavoven 4 Posted August 8, 2004 Just check your Data file. If the size of it is more than the normal one --> kick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr burns 132 Posted August 8, 2004 Just check your Data file. If the size of it is more than the normal one --> kick aha.. now that´s smart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted August 8, 2004 file size checks are per file and not the total of files, some ill have 0 and will stop ppl with any sounds or faces Sounds do not lag in game no matter what the whiners may claim, once the player has conected the sounds are sent to each client and they are now local on each persons Hard drive The RN server has the perfict balance, any size sound file and you'll fine most of us will use a black face for better camo since there are dick heads who delete the custom faces so they can see pure white faces in bushes Now a person conecting while a game is in play will lag lesser servers with lesser upload since it will start outputing new files to all it's clients, our server does not have this problem, but can still cause a server spike (no txt will be sent for a few seconds As for ECP you will be kicked with it running, but if you come back with it off you wont have any problems we know that its a "kewl" mod but since it has been used for cheating we wont let any one use it if we are around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted August 8, 2004 What about custom anims, hisky or DXDLL , are people deprived from using these great mods because of potential hack abuse too . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted August 9, 2004 yep regarless of you intentions the mods can be used for cheating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benu 1 Posted August 9, 2004 There is no way to detect dxdll, so nobody can get kicked because of it. ECP had some mp troubles in the 1.5x versions, but those seem to be solved for a long time. I often play with ecp too and never had (or caused) any problems with it. But we will not allow ecp in cti, as you can use the "join soldier to group" feature of ecp to destroy the cti game. To detect ecp just look for the the "RES;@ecp" line the player generates. If you want to use ecp from a different folder you have to unpbo some addons and rewrite the pathes (i did this so our ofp watch installed ecp did not conflict with other installed versions of ecp), so most players (have to) use the default ecp path. Sound are sent to each player, so if 20 players connect and each of them has 2mb of sounds then every player has to download 19*2=38mb of sounds. And they have no real use in the game anyway, except to annoy everybody. BTW: this is a serversetting, it is not that the admin kicks you, the admin only sets the limit and the server kicks you automatically if you are beyond the limit. If you like it or not, this is part of the server policy, comply or play somewhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted August 9, 2004 A) Sound are sent to each player, so if 20 players connect and each of them has 2mb of sounds then every player has to download 19*2=38mb of sounds.B) And they have no real use in the game anyway, except to annoy everybody. A) this is typical of your "the Sky is falling" attitude, you never did understand real world numbers OFP it self will limit the sounds to 40k (last time i checked might be 60) meaning a player can have at max .4 mbs and by your numbers (20 players) should have that only 8 megs, there has never been a server in the world with 38 megs of sounds to dload lol now on average you have 5-20k files, with about 60% of players having sounds (12) so now you have 12.5*10*12 which is on average 3 megs to dload when you conect to a server a server will now has to send that to all clients so she out puts 60 megs but this is never really done all at once on average servers that are used will have about a 40-60 gig monthly output divide that by 30 is about 1.66 gigs of out put a day and intern divide by 60 megs means 27 games with around 20 players per (or more games and less players) which shows my number are corect if you used benu's #'s it would show a monthly server out put of around 615 gigs a month tsk tsk B) thats your opinion - sounds are wicked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted August 9, 2004 Unless you use custom sounds for commands/statements like "Clear" and "Cover me", any size>0KB is too much in my opinion. It's something that belongs in CS not OFP. As for custom face size, I can understand a limit of ~20KB... but they should be allowed for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanctuary 19 Posted August 9, 2004 Is there a way in OFP settings, client side, to prevent downloading any custom things from every other users (including sounds/faces or whatever ?), minus the server mission ? That would come in handy to speed up the pre-game downloading Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benu 1 Posted August 9, 2004 A) Sound are sent to each player, so if 20 players connect and each of them has 2mb of sounds then every player has to download 19*2=38mb of sounds.B) And they have no real use in the game anyway, except to annoy everybody. A) this is typical of your "the Sky is falling" attitude, you never did understand real world numbers And this is typical for your arrogant, assuming and insulting "discussion" style. Quote[/b] ]OFP it self will limit the sounds to 40k (last time i checked might be 60) meaning a player can have at max .4 mbs and by your numbers (20 players) should have that only 8 megs,there has never been a server in the world with 38 megs of sounds to dload lol All your nitpicking is beside the point. Even if the limit is at 400kb/player and only 60% of the players use them, then this results in 4.8mb download for EACH PLAYER. It's not about servers not handling this, the point is that most PLAYERS do not want to download this shit. Many complain when missions are larger than 1mb. See the posting of Sanctuary. And all this for something that is not only useless but (even worse) only used to annoy most of the times. Quote[/b] ]now on average you have 5-20k files, with about 60% of players having sounds (12) so now you have 12.5*10*12 which is on average 3 megs to dload when you conect to a servera server will now has to send that to all clients so she out puts 60 megs but this is never really done all at once on average servers that are used will have about a 40-60 gig monthly output divide that by 30 is about 1.66 gigs of out put a day and intern divide by 60 megs means 27 games with around 20 players per (or more games and less players) which shows my number are corect if you used benu's #'s it would show a monthly server out put of around 615 gigs a month tsk tsk Well, you can multiply, and you can nitpick on numbers, but you can't get the point it seems. I will clear this up for you: This is a serversetting, set by the admin in accordance to his server policy. Don't go whining that it will onyl generate 40gb/month (i have run servers that had only 50gb traffic/month included, the rest had to be paid for). It is nice that your huge clans pays the server for you, but that does not make you judge and jury of every server and admin out there. Comply to the server rules or play somewhere else. Quote[/b] ]B) thats your opinion - sounds are wicked Yes, to annoy or insult people, things you seem to like very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted August 9, 2004 Is there a way in OFP settings, client side, to prevent downloading any custom things from every other users (including sounds/faces or whatever ?), minus the server mission ? Â That would come in handy to speed up the pre-game downloading you could try setting the tmp and tmpXXX (xxx=port #) to read only but im not sure if OFP will kick you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted August 9, 2004 1)And this is typical for your arrogant, assuming and insulting "discussion" style.2)then this results in 4.8mb download for EACH PLAYER. 3)the point is that most PLAYERS do not want to download this shit. 4)Well, you can multiply, and you can nitpick on numbers, but you can't get the point it seems. I will clear this up for you: 5)Yes, to annoy or insult people, things you seem to like very much. 1)There is no nicpicking in involved, you posted INCORECT stats and by your esitmates a server out put would be 615 gigs a month and they are not, do the fking math and if you found being corected insulting to bad - your numbers are WRONG 2)2.5 megs (this is average 12.5*10*20) which is not much and no where near your 1st esitmate of 38 megs since you assumed so arrogantly lol 3) on servers that allow sounds or have sound limitations you will have %60 of the players with sounds meaning that they have the majority in the use of sounds, once again do the math 4) you have no point you have false #s and you use that to back up your claims tsk tsk 5)if you would not post incorect information you would not get annoyed when i corect you I also hope yu dont asume Sound files Lag the servers when played Share this post Link to post Share on other sites