CanadianTerror 0 Posted July 26, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Many thanks of studio ORCS for the sanction to use model of infantry. Quote[/b] ]The author of original models - Laser thats what it says at the bottom of the readme above Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted July 26, 2004 Laser isnt in ORCS anymore, one reason is that they gave his models to many without even asking him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordy 0 Posted July 26, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Many thanks of studio ORCS for the sanction to use model of infantry. Quote[/b] ]The author of original models - Laser thats what it says at the bottom of the readme above but U should give credits after getting the permission to use it. From what Shadow NX says there was no permission granted. Or am I wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted July 26, 2004 Well i dont really care about the inf model since many mods use it without permission, i just find it a bit un-social to use parts and textures from addosn not even released yet Btw heres the cammo sample we used for the texture, had to put "sample" on it. The cam flashlight made it look totally wrong thats why i recon the textures easiely, i later edited them a bit gave them more green and stuff, but on our first beta they looked exactly like these on the MVD Sample I wonder why noone from DRF was able to comment this so far, but i guess all i will get as answer will be some swearing words Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted July 26, 2004 I wonder why noone from DRF was able to comment this so far, but i guess all i will get as answer will be some swearing words Because they are Russian, and none of them speak English. Check this thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peanut 0 Posted July 26, 2004 I take my consequences and will take a break from OFP for a few months No don't let you bring down because of this I first thought of downloading this, but until the situation is cleared and the right persons get credited and allow a release I won't download it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted July 26, 2004 Pic1 Pic2 Too bad i dont have any pics with the cammo before i edited it, but most will recon the patterns match 100% only the brightness and colour looks different on our because i edited it before taking pics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted July 26, 2004 Judging by the pics...those are the exact same base textures anyways. The patterns are identical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted July 26, 2004 They ARE exact same texture which is quite alarming. We have no idea how it got leaked and an investigation will be fully launched. This is very dissrespectfull. In all what has been said please do not start comparing this to our final Inf pack as this does not represent it in any way. Now even textures will be different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputnik monroe 102 Posted July 26, 2004 Well I'm right pissed now. I've been looking forward to Red Hammers Mechanized Infantry for months now. Now it appears they'll never be released and we are stuck with these units. Stuck with these units that I refuse to download until some one can prove to me they aren't made from stolen material.    Shadow please finish and release your mechanized  infantry packpack, you guys have worked hard on it and it would be such a shame to let it die now.   I didn't think much of the DRF Mahra any way. I tried it out and was not impressed. Their helmets look like M1 US helmets.The Parade officer in it has a blatantly American web belt, don't believe me? Place one in the editor then stand behind him and look at the middle of his back, it says "US" right in the middle of it.   Because of all that I deleted it off my hard drive and resumed looking forward to RHS's Infantry.  Now that I hear these allegations of theft it only stregthens my sentiments.   I will not beg, but Shadow I will ask that you stay the course. Imagine if every one gave up (in any field) the moment some one released poor counterfit products? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted July 26, 2004 Inf pack will be released, mostly Lasers work i only research and edit textures. We decided to use the time till our weap pack is finally done and redo soem stuff, add a few different vsr versiosn for the chaotic look many soldiers had on pics from first chechen war, also the GRu in gorka will be bit changed, saw soem pics from 22nd SpnGRU in Chechnya wich inspired me. There also may be some soldiers with bandages and wounds like in nam pack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordy 0 Posted July 26, 2004 Can we make a rule, that if there is a theft case proven, the guilty one gets permanent ban for everything? This is so bad for the community. I would cut this person hand off for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brat 0 Posted July 26, 2004 how it can be stolen textures if the RHS addon not in internet(to use) ?? May be it is look like ! And whaT? Â we done that addon first! If this camo on RHS addon that not in internet (for use) we must to do aver camo? this is SPETSNAZ... They have the ... (dont know how to say it) camo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donnervogel 0 Posted July 26, 2004 Dang. Nice units but I don't download stolen stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted July 26, 2004 Pic1Pic2 Too bad i dont have any pics with the cammo before i edited it, but most will recon the patterns match 100% only the brightness and colour looks different on our because i edited it before taking pics Please look at the two pictures in the quote observe the area right above the boot especially. There u can plainly see thet the texture and the texture mapping is identical. It would be quite extraordinary that the texture (which was btw taken of shadow's jacket and never released anywere) was mapped exactly the same way as in our Infantry. Dont u think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordy 0 Posted July 26, 2004 there are many ways to steal things. One doesn't have to be Kevin Mittnick to accomplish this. The easies way would be turn this addon to pieces and see if it resembles the original. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted July 26, 2004 @brat Where did you get your texture from exactly? Thats the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr burns 132 Posted July 26, 2004 how it can be stolen textures if the RHS addon not in internet(to use) ??May be it is look like ! And whaT?  we done that addon first! If this camo on RHS addon that not in internet (for use) we must to do  aver camo?  this is SPETSNAZ... They have the ... (dont know how to say it) camo! dude.. it´s leaked having someone in the team you cannot trust (in rare cases  funny ftp´s) leads to leaking that this has happened to rhs is very sad imo. i´ve always been looking forward to any rhs release because it´s a guarantee for top notch stuff. stealing their stuff before they had released is just disrespectful and as shadow nx said antisocial a (our) good community should be like a good neighbourhood where you don´t have to lock the door when you go out edit: and of course ofpc doesn´t post news bout this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKM 0 Posted July 26, 2004 I was having a great day. Operative word Was. God Damn It. Quote[/b] ]Inf pack will be released, mostly Lasers work i only research and edit textures.We decided to use the time till our weap pack is finally done and redo soem stuff, add a few different vsr versiosn for the chaotic look many soldiers had on pics from first chechen war, also the GRu in gorka will be bit changed, saw soem pics from 22nd SpnGRU in Chechnya wich inspired me. There also may be some soldiers with bandages and wounds like in nam pack It's all sounding good. The Mahra, based off latest screens, are looking good. It's all good. And then this happens. You know, I origionally thought that Malahit here was doing good work. Out of respect for those who may be intimidated by multisyllabic Russian cursewords, I'll refrain from the fifteen minute cursing binge I was planning on. *Removes cryllic typefont.* Quote[/b] ]Because they are Russian, and none of them speak English. Yes, and many people in the RHS team are also Russians. I'm not Russian but I can speak and read some. It's not that hard to swear. And that seems to be the only thing nessecary right now. Quote[/b] ]Well I'm right pissed now. I've been looking forward to Red Hammers Mechanized Infantry for months now. Now it appears they'll never be released and we are stuck with these units. You and me both. I'd like to break some legs right now. As Shadow said, he's off on a break, and I suspect many others will take leave as well. After that, who knows? The latest news is encouraging. The Motor-Rifle troops are getting a complete rework apparently, models, textures (Hopefully not weapons because from what I've seen, Totmacher is a God), and they'll come out of an even higher quality than before. Preserverance is what I'm hoping for. That, and the public executions of some people should this be proven. I know just enough of OFP editing to know that it can be horrendously difficult and time consuming, and that addon makers and modgroups deserve nothing but the utmost respect for their work, especially something of such quality. To sum it all up: Shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr reality 0 Posted July 26, 2004 I noticed this.. RHS Unit.. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â MVD Unit They do look similar..I think i'll wait till RHS release there stuff as they do make some kick ass units.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brat 0 Posted July 26, 2004 Tomorrow if i will be in home i will say from where the textures! but was better if i was understanding all that you write Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputnik monroe 102 Posted July 26, 2004 Argh if you compare the two pictures that shadow posted you can tell it's stolen. Every single blotch of the cammo matches up with the redhammer soldier. They completely match up 100%, like he said just look right above the boots and follow each tiger stripe they both completely match. Every zig zag spot and blotch, this is totally counterfit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted July 26, 2004 How unpleasant. Don't let it get you down, RHS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MontyVCB 0 Posted July 26, 2004 I wonder how these units can have textures and model parts from one of our not yet released addons...I will take my consequences from it... EXACTLY THAT IS WHAT MAKES PEOPLE STOP MAKING ADDONS The whole pack is nothing but Ghost Recon models n textures, RHS models an textures and a few CS models and textures... awesome job i must say... Â And some wonder why Modmakers try to make their pbos save... exactly because of this shit! so how has it got ur textures if the addon is not released, i find that kinda stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USMC Sniper 0 Posted July 26, 2004 Looks like the weapons were taken from the old RHS imports back when I was around (when it was still called RSS), I can see that they look just about identical. They were originally imported from Firearms mod for half life and then edited to look like an AK74M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites