US Army gets new combat uniform

[ralphwiggum 6]

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http://www4.army.mil/news/article.php?story=6042

Quote[/b] ]June 14, 2004

WASHINGTON (Army News Service, June 14, 2004) - The Army will be fielding a new combat uniform designed by NCOs and tested by Stryker Brigade Soldiers in Iraq since October.

On the Army's 229th birthday, senior leadership introduced the Army Combat Uniform during a Pentagon cake-cutting ceremony. Soldiers were on display, suited-up in the wrinkle-free uniform with a digitized camouflage pattern.

Three different versions of the ACU have been developed, and more than 10,000 uniforms have been produced and dragged through the sand in Iraq and at Army training centers. Even more are on American production lines to be issued by April 2005 to Soldiers in deploying units. Fielding to the total Army should be complete by December 2007, said officials from the Program Executive Office, known as PEO Soldier.

There were 20 changes made to the uniform, to include removing the color black and adapting the digital print from the Marine Corps uniform to meet the needs of the Army, said Sgt. 1st Class Jeff Myhre, the Clothing and Individual Equipment noncommissioned officer in charge.

Black is no longer useful on the uniform because it is not a color commonly found in nature. The drawback to black is that its color immediately catches the eye, he added.

"The color scheme in the ACU capitalizes on the environments that we operate in," Myhre said. "The current colors on the ACU are green-woodland, grey-urban environments and sand brown-desert. The pattern is not a 100-percent solution in every environment, but a good solution across the board."

"This isn't about a cosmetic redesign of the uniform," said Col. John Norwood, the project manager for Clothing and Individual Equipment. "It's a functionality change of the uniform that will improve the ability of Soldiers to execute their combat mission."

Every change was made for a reason. The bottom pockets on the jacket were removed and placed on the shoulder sleeves so Soldiers can have access to them while wearing body armor. The pockets were also tilted forward so that they are easily accessible. Buttons were replaced with zippers that open from the top and bottom to provide comfort while wearing armor.

Patches and tabs are affixed to the uniform with Velcro to give the wearer more flexibility and to save the Soldier money, Myhre said. Soldiers can take the name-tapes and patches off their uniforms before laundering, which will add to the lifecycle of the patches. Also the cost to get patches sewn on will be eliminated, he added.

The ACU will consist of a jacket, trousers, moisture wicking t-shirt and the brown combat boots. It will replace both versions of the BDU and the desert camouflage uniform. The black beret will be the normal headgear for the ACU, but there is a matching patrol cap to be worn at the commander's discretion.

At $88 per uniform, about $30 more than the BDU, Soldiers will eventually reap gains in money and time by not having to take uniforms to the cleaners or shine boots.

The life of the ACU began in January 2003 when PEO Soldier teamed with Myhre, Master Sgt. Alex Samoba and Staff Sgt. Matt Goodine - from the 1st Stryker Brigade, Fort Lewis, Wash.

The team looked at a number of uniforms and took the best part of each uniform and combined it into one. They built their first prototype and delivered 25 uniforms to Stryker squads at the National Training Center. After listening to their comments, the team went back to the lab and created prototype two.

Twenty-one uniforms were then delivered to Stryker Soldiers at the Joint Training and Readiness Center, Fort Polk, La.

"We watched them as they entered and cleared rooms, as they carried their rucksack and all of the things they had to be able to do in the uniform, and then we came up with prototype three," Myhre said.

Two issues of the third version were given to the Stryker Soldiers deploying to Iraq. Three months ago, Myhre was among a team who visited Iraq to get more feedback from Soldiers.

"We would talk to Soldiers right after they had completed a mission while the benefits of the uniform were still fresh in their minds. We wanted to know how did the uniform help the mission."

Sgt. Maj. of the Army Kenneth Preston is one of the ACU's biggest supporters. He said major command sergeants major had a chance to see the uniform and give advice toward the final version.

"We have not made a major change to our uniforms since the BDUs (battle dress uniforms) were introduced in the early 1980s," Preston said. "This new uniform performs well in multiple environments. Its new pockets and color designs are a result of feedback from Soldiers in combat. Every modification made on the uniform was designed with a specific purpose and not just for the sake of change."

Uniform changes include:

1. Mandarin collar that can be worn up or down

2. Rank insignia centered on the front of the blouse

3. Velcro for wearing unit patch, skill tabs and recognition devices

4. Zippered front closure

5. Elbow pouch for internal elbow pad inserts

6. Knee pouch for internal knee pad inserts

7. Draw string leg cuff

8. Tilted chest pockets with Velcro closure

9. Three-slot pen pocket on bottom of sleeve

10. Velcro sleeve cuff closure

11. Shoulder pockets with Velcro

12. Forward tilted cargo pockets

13. Integrated blouse bellows for increased upper body mobility

14. Integrated Friend or Foe Identification Square on both left and right shoulder pocket flap.

15. Bellowed calf storage pocket on left and right leg

16. Moisture-wicking desert tan t-shirt

17. Patrol Cap with double thick bill and internal pocket

18. Improved hot-weather desert boot or temperate-weather desert boot

19. Two-inch, black nylon web belt

20. Moisture-wicking socks

[Tex -USMC- 0]

*snicker*

[The Frenchman 0]

Eh....wth?

[redliner47 0]

probably wont get to my unit until December 2007

[ran 0]

extensive use of velcro ? sure ...

a zip .... even better ....

The french army fielded a vest with a zip once .... gess what ? it's been retired from front-line units within a couple of years and been given to logistics personnel. (it has now been completely rired, but Istill have one of these vests since they are awesome for civilian use and ... quite trendy too)

Zips and Velcro are a big joke for any piece of combat uniform. Nothing beats old fashionned buttons.

On a side note, the centered torso rank tab looks like a rip-off of the french system.

-edit- : had to check, and the battledress uniform in question is the M64, one of the rarest things one can imagine

It's quite pratical for non-combat duties withits zip and the ... (how are those metallic buttons called ? you know the ones which consist in two parts, one which goes into the other) for the pouches, but it gets useless quite fast with sand or mud and by cold weathers

[redliner47 0]

"Dammit Corporal, keep your shirt on, its not that hot!"

"Sir, I cant, Sand got into my velcro!"

[EiZei 0]

How come that thing looks like something out of a cheap sci-fi movie?

[ran 0]

How come that thing looks like something out of a cheap sci-fi movie?

the ACU program has the budget of something nearing the one of a B-movie ?

-edit-: the more I look at the pictures the more I think you're right ....

Believe me, i've worn my share of weird looking uniforms, but this one .... hell, I pity those who will have to wear it.

The camo is surely quite efficient, but for god's sake, work on the subdued patches to be more in the tones of the camo....

And what are the pockets down the legs of the trousers are ment for ?

And i think that the main pockets on the vest are a relatively stupid idea, they don't look like they can carry much and if you want to, you should wear a quite large uniform (2more size than what you'd wear normally ... and this especially since it looks like an over-adjusted sado-maso accessory ment to make you unable to breath -from the pictures-) and you can't access the pockets with both hands, and this sucks.

[Dauragon 0]

He looks like a russian naval soldier

[Gordy 0]

Look at his face.

He's gonna cry.

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[mr reality 0]

Quote[/b] ]On a side note, the centered torso rank tab looks like a rip-off of the french system

The british armys had those for a very long time.

I think the new uniform looks a bit "Russian" but maybe thats just me...

[ran 0]

The mandarin collar sucks big time too, hopefully, it's removeable, but hell ...

[ran 0]

Quote[/b] ]On a side note, the centered torso rank tab looks like a rip-off of the french system

The british armys had those for a very long time.

I think the new uniform looks a bit "Russian" but maybe thats just me...

we got them since the mid-late 50's

[denoir 0]

2. Rank insignia centered on the front of the blouse

Oh yeah, now that is really going to work. Quite nice for not recognizing rank on somebody in a prone position, or from the side, or from the rear....

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Yeah, like that's ever going to work. Velcro and mud don't mix. Velcro and sand don't mix.

Quote[/b] ]14. Integrated Friend or Foe Identification Square on both left and right shoulder pocket flap.

Well, the enemy sure will appreciate that you mark your soldiers so that they know who to hit.

[ran 0]

2. Rank insignia centered on the front of the blouse

Oh yeah, now that is really going to work. Quite nice for not recognizing rank on somebody in a prone position, or from the side, or from the rear....

this often caused a few probs here, but nothing too critical

and, do you know of any rank insigna visible from the rear ?

"basic" french military outfit

(and no, i'm not on any of these pictures)

[Harnu 0]

It looks like AF colors on MARPAT. And to complete the possibility to call it Army, they of course had to go to another level of stupidity to add velcro and a neck peice that's probably going to cause chafing!

Go Army!

[mr reality 0]

If i remember correctly when i served in the forces it was entirerly up to the individual whether he wore the front rank patch or not.Mainly due to the fact it was only worn on combat clothing and not the normal uniform.I thought the idea in combat was to not distinguish the officers from the men so the snipers wouldnt target them.Maybe he'd have to be a pretty bloody good sniper to see the rank patch though..

[ran 0]

If i remember correctly when i served in the forces it was entirerly up to the individual whether he wore the front rank patch or not.Mainly due to the fact it was only worn on combat clothing and not the normal uniform.I thought the idea in combat was to not distinguish the officers from the men so the snipers wouldnt target them.Maybe he'd have to be a pretty bloody good sniper to see the rank patch though..

I doubt any sniper could spot a subdued front rank patch.

(front rank patches are(or were?) completed with shoulder ones for a clear ID as you can seein one of the pics i posted above)

[mr reality 0]

Hey Ran if i'm right your French.I'd just like to congradulate you on a "lucky" win....

[Milkman 1]

If this is what the army is going to be using, then I am joining the marines!

[ran 0]

Hey Ran if i'm right your French.I'd just like to congradulate you on a "lucky" win....

I'm not too much into football, but for once, we won a competition game against your team, just leave us this little pleasure, it happened so rarely we always owned friendly matches but always lost the other important ones ;)

[DracoPaladore 0]

Maybe all those buttons are confusing soldiers. They dropped down to velcro to help those with lower IQ standards

Now if someone screws up the zig line with velcro they need to be slapped silly!

[Milkman 1]

Now if someone screws up the zig line with velcro they need to be slapped silly!

Trust me, it will happen.

[ralphwiggum 6]

(how are those metallic buttons called ? you know the ones which consist in two parts, one which goes into the other)

snap buttons?