Us presidential election 2004

[Blake 0]

Quote[/b] ]Apparently the military went through some financial hard times during the Clinton era and servicemen (and women) are untrusting of the democratic party because of it.

Like the ending of the Cold War had nothing to do with it...

[Badgerboy 0]

If you Are A Bush Supporter Get Out Your House and Vote for a Republican victory

Sorry. We mailed them in.  

I take it you vote due to your dual citizenship? I wasn't aware you could do that.

What I find strange is you are allowed to at all. As you live in Israel, shouldn't you only be allowed to vote for an Isaeli government, and not for a country you don't reside in? If you spent half your time living in the US I could understand, but from my experience of you over the years here, is that you live in Israel permenantly. Could you fill me in here?

(BTW, if I misread your post, then ignore everything above! )

[theavonlady 2]

If you Are A Bush Supporter Get Out Your House and Vote for a Republican victory

Sorry. We mailed them in.  

I take it you vote due to your dual citizenship? I wasn't aware you could do that.

What I find strange is you are allowed to at all. As you live in Israel, shouldn't you only be allowed to vote for an Isaeli government, and not for a country you don't reside in?

Wrong.

Quote[/b] ] If you spent half your time living in the US I could understand, but from my experience of you over the years here, is that you live in Israel permenantly. Could you fill me in here?

(BTW, if I misread your post, then ignore everything above! )

Many countries allow dual citizenship. Both Israel and the US permit it.

It has both benefits and obligations. We do file and pay taxes in the US as well, although much less than had we been residing in the US. Of course, the counterside is that Israel gobbles up our earnings much more than had we not been Israeli citizens.

All of our children were born in Israel but are also full US citizens, with US issued birth certificates and passports. This was possible only because of our initial residency in the US for a non-contiguous total of 14 years since our birth (this is sufficient for one US parent).

Our two oldest children also participated for the first time in this US election via absentee ballots.

[Bordoy 0]

Many countries allow dual citizenship. Both Israel and the US permit it.

It has both benefits and obligations. We do file and pay taxes in the US as well, although much less than had we been residing in the US. Of course, the counterside is that Israel gobbles up our earnings much more than had we not been Israeli citizens.

All of our children were born in Israel but are also full US citizens, with US issued birth certificates and passports. This was possible only because of our initial residency in the US for a non-contiguous total of 14 years since our birth (this is sufficient for one US parent).

Our two oldest children also participated for the first time in this US election via absentee ballots.

Could i do the same as i have citizenship of the UK and Spain.

[theavonlady 2]

Could i do the same as i have citizenship of the UK and Spain.

What? Pay taxes in Israel? Sure! Go ahead!

[Badgerboy 0]

If you Are A Bush Supporter Get Out Your House and Vote for a Republican victory

Sorry. We mailed them in.  

I take it you vote due to your dual citizenship? I wasn't aware you could do that.

What I find strange is you are allowed to at all. As you live in Israel, shouldn't you only be allowed to vote for an Isaeli government, and not for a country you don't reside in?

Wrong.

Quote[/b] ] If you spent half your time living in the US I could understand, but from my experience of you over the years here, is that you live in Israel permenantly. Could you fill me in here?

(BTW, if I misread your post, then ignore everything above! )

Many countries allow dual citizenship. Both Israel and the US permit it.

It has both benefits and obligations. We do file and pay taxes in the US as well, although much less than had we been residing in the US. Of course, the counterside is that Israel gobbles up our earnings much more than had we not been Israeli citizens.

All of our children were born in Israel but are also full US citizens, with US issued birth certificates and passports. This was possible only because of our initial residency in the US for a non-contiguous total of 14 years since our birth (this is sufficient for one US parent).

Our two oldest children also participated for the first time in this US election via absentee ballots.

Rihto, that explains it a little more clearly. I see that if you do hold the dual citizenship, you still have obligations to go with it as well. (Taxes and such)

[Bordoy 0]

Could i do the same as i have citizenship of the UK and Spain.

What? Pay taxes in Israel? Sure! Go ahead!

I'm not paying your taxes, would i want to?

I meant about the voting, like when im old enough could i vote in Spanish elections?

[SpeedyDonkey 0]

Not that anyway cares, but I'm both a Finnish and a Swedish citizen. I see no major moral problems with that.

[Akira 0]

Not that anyway cares, but I'm both a Finnish and a Swedish citizen. I see no major moral problems with that.

Must be hard not to beat yourself up....

[walker 0]

Hi all

With Virginia looking as though it will vote for John F. Kerry what apears to be GOP dirty tricks have started to apear just the same as they have in other battle ground states.

The latest dirty trick is a bogus Letter pretenting to be from National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) threatening to arest voters if they are behind on their child mainternance or have outstanding parking fines.

Quote[/b] ]"I'm outraged," said Jill Miller, director of the Charleston County Board of Election and Voter Registration. "This is so bogus."

The Rev. Joe Darby, vice president of the state chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (news - web sites), said he received the one-page letter — which had a Columbia postmark with no return address — at his Charleston home.

He said it was an attempt to frighten minorities from voting Tuesday because the letter-writer assumes black people are in trouble with the law.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...._scam_1

If you are angry at the racism of the people who write these kind of letters you have to get out and vote for John F. Kerry

It is only because the race in Virginia is so close that dirty tricks like this start to apear.

If you live in Virginia and are a Democrat; it is going down to the wire get out and VOTE!

Kind Regards Walker

[billybob2002 0]

Hi all

With Virginia looking as though it will vote for John F. Kerry what apears to be GOP dirty tricks have started to apear just the same as they have in other battle ground states.

The latest dirty trick is a bogus Letter pretenting to be from National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) threatening to arest voters if they are behind on their child mainternance or have outstanding parking fines.

Quote[/b] ]"I'm outraged," said Jill Miller, director of the Charleston County Board of Election and Voter Registration. "This is so bogus."

The Rev. Joe Darby, vice president of the state chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (news - web sites), said he received the one-page letter — which had a Columbia postmark with no return address — at his Charleston home.

He said it was an attempt to frighten minorities from voting Tuesday because the letter-writer assumes black people are in trouble with the law.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...._scam_1

If you are angry at the racism of the people who write these kind of letters you have to get out and vote for John F. Kerry

It is only because the race in Virginia is so close that dirty tricks like this start to apear.

If you live in Virginia and are a Democrat; it is going down to the wire get out and VOTE!

Kind Regards Walker

South Carolina is not a battleground state. Anyway, I find those types of "letters" amusing at best.

[dabitup 0]

Hi all

Just checked the latest figures for Virginia Bush's lead has droped below the amount for statistical error.

Kerry could win not just West Virginia but Virginia itself if you are a Kerry voter in Virginia get out and vote it is going down to the wire in Virginia.

Kind Regards Walker

I live in Virginia and I am <s>voting</s> (Im eleven) ruting for Bush and there is nothing you can do about it either.

P.S.

Why does everyone think Bush is evil? Have Any of you heard that Kerry is raising the tax income or whatever it's called? And I saw a vid that showed his comrades in Vietnam. And Guess What! They said he was just horrible to them. And he says he can make the whole US safe from terrorism. I personaly think that that's Immpossible. No offense to democrats and Kerry people but am I right?

Oh and one other thing.... (no offense btw) with that monster slash flash vid.... do you really think kerry will stop that? (And be honest here) Btw, No Offense at all!

[Akira 0]

Quote[/b] ]Have Any of you heard that Kerry is raising the tax income or whatever it's called?

'Nuff said....

Quote[/b] ] No offense to democrats and Kerry people but am I right?

No you aren't.

[billybob2002 0]

Quote[/b] ]No you aren't.

Actually, he is right...the rollback for the uppers!!! It may be returning to it's previous level but it is a increase.

[Badgerboy 0]

Hi all

Just checked the latest figures for Virginia Bush's lead has droped below the amount for statistical error.

Kerry could win not just West Virginia but Virginia itself if you are a Kerry voter in Virginia get out and vote it is going down to the wire in Virginia.

Kind Regards Walker

I live in Virginia and I am <s>voting</s> (Im eleven) ruting for Bush and there is nothing you can do about it either.

P.S.

Why does everyone think Bush is evil? Have Any of you heard that Kerry is raising the tax income or whatever it's called? And I saw a vid that showed his comrades in Vietnam. And Guess What! They said he was just horrible to them. And he says he can make the whole US safe from terrorism. I personaly think that that's Immpossible. No offense to democrats and Kerry people but am I right?

Oh and one other thing.... (no offense btw) with that monster slash flash vid.... do you really think kerry will stop that? (And be honest here) Btw, No Offense at all!

Your eleven?!

Please, step away from the politics and go out and enjoy yourself.

Ordinarily I would encourage getting involved, but you have the dubious honour of being around in one of the most petty and pathetic elections I have ever seen.

Forget all the ads you saw, as at your age you assume they are telling the truth. Both parties distort the truth so much its sickening.

So forget all the evil-kerry propoganda you have read, and if someone tells you Bush is actually working for Satan, don't believe it either.

So get off the PC, stuff the election, and go and have some fun.

(BTW - Does anyone else think getting children this young involved is wrong. Politicians are so corrupt, we shouldn't let them anywhere near them)

[Acecombat 0]

I agree at 11 it wont make much sense to a kid.

Especially in a ELECTION such as this in which both partys are so rabidly out to tarnish each others image.Its like a bloody NBA or NFL match ....

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

The election itself is not bad at all for them. The problem is the parents that often try to brainwash children with what they preach them.

So yes, the best advise you can give them is "stop watching those ads, go and have fun with your friends instead, you wont miss anything.... and if your parents try to teach you about the election then treat it the way you behave when they talk about your homework: pretend you care"!

[theavonlady 2]

(BTW - Does anyone else think getting children this young involved is wrong. Politicians are so corrupt, we shouldn't let them anywhere near them)

Amen, brother!

[Bordoy 0]

Cant believe what i saw on CNN. Kerry saying that he was against diverting US forces to Iraq. But the thing is, he was one of the biggest supporters of the war so he is just contradicting himself of what he said last year.

[EiZei 0]

Cant believe what i saw on CNN. Kerry saying that he was against diverting US forces to Iraq. But the thing is, he was one of the biggest supporters of the war so he is just contradicting himself of what he said last year.

Somebody said something about contradicting oneself?

And meanwhile this has been circulating in Milwaukee african american communities..

[Akira 0]

Cant believe what i saw on CNN. Kerry saying that he was against diverting US forces to Iraq. But the thing is, he was one of the biggest supporters of the war so he is just contradicting himself of what he said last year.

He was not one of the war's biggest supporters. Where did you get THAT information??

[Akira 0]

If you don't watch football, here's a reason to:

Quote[/b] ]Projecting a winner: As the Redskins go, so goes the election

By JOSEPH WHITE, AP Sports Writer

October 27, 2004

ASHBURN, Va. (AP) -- This election season, Washington Redskins cornerback Fred Smoot has a predicament faced by many NFL players: a Democrat's background and a Republican's income.

``They turn Republican. I see it all the time,'' Smoot said. ``It all goes back to changing your economic value.''

Smoot, a black from modest means in Mississippi, has decided to choose his roots over his pocketbook. He is supporting John Kerry for president.

``When you go into a higher tax bracket, all of a sudden you don't want to vote for this candidate because he's going to raise taxes,'' Smoot said. ``I thought about it. I'm not going to solely vote for this candidate just because he's going to be save me a couple of dollars and it not turn out to be the best thing for me or my country.''

That, however, presents Smoot with another dilemma: For Kerry to win, the Redskins have to lose on Sunday -- at least according to a bizarre statistical correlation that's been accurate for seven decades.

``We've got to win this game no doubt, but I'm hoping John Kerry can kind of reverse the curse,'' Smoot said. ``I'm wishing him luck, man. This is the millennium for all trends to be broken.''

Since the Redskins became the Redskins in 1933, the result of the team's final home game before the presidential election has correctly predicted the White House winner. If the Redskins win, the incumbent party wins. If they lose, the incumbent party is ousted.

``It's kind of amazing,'' coach Joe Gibbs said. ``You wouldn't think something like that would line up that many times.''

Gibbs said the statistic doesn't really mean anything, but he can at least pretend that it does -- because he's solidly in the Bush camp.

``Hopefully we'll have a lot of people pulling for us,'' said Gibbs, who voted when he traveled to his North Carolina home over the bye weekend.

Kerry's vice presidential candidate, John Edwards, has been quoted as saying he's rooting for the Packers. While no doubt thankful for the endorsement, Green Bay coach Mike Sherman is concerned about more rudimentary matters, such as the health of quarterback Brett Favre.

``It's going to take a lot more than Packers fans to determine the outcome of an election,'' Sherman said.

The locker room, particularly in Washington, isn't immune to political discussions in this politically charged year. Injured tackle Jon Jansen recently showed up for a game wearing a Bush pin on his shirt.

Most players, however, are reluctant go public with their views. Quarterback Mark Brunell made his preference for Bush known earlier this week, but he backed off when asked about it again Wednesday.

``I don't know if it was very smart,'' Brunell said, ``so I'm going to keep it quiet right now.''

One reason for the reluctance could be the financial question. Ray Brown, a 19-year veteran, has seen many teammates conflicted over whether to switch allegiances based on their tax bracket.

``It's a dilemma,'' said Brown, who has an absentee ballot for California. ``I think you'll see guys vote across the lines.''

Although his political leanings are known, Gibbs can't take sides as the leader of the team. He said he never considered running for office himself.

``I've invited enough nightmares into my life,'' the coach said with a laugh.

Until recently, the Redskins had been the subject of another political quirk. For 52 years -- from 1946 to 1998 -- they failed to make the playoffs under a Democratic administration. That one went by the wayside when the team won the NFC East in 1999, when Bill Clinton was president.

Some players are puzzled by all the talk of the election -- and how the team's success seems coincidentally tied to it.

``I'm not much into politics'' linebacker Marcus Washington said. ``All I know is this is going to be a tough week for us. Brett Favre's going to be tough. Ahman Green's tough. Those are two tough candidates right there.''

But the passions are spirited among other players, begging the question: If the Redskins were a state, who would get its electoral votes?

``We have a couple of Bush guys. We have a couple of Kerry guys,'' linebacker Lemar Marshall said. ``This is one of those swing teams.''

[dabitup 0]

Hi all

Just checked the latest figures for Virginia Bush's lead has droped below the amount for statistical error.

Kerry could win not just West Virginia but Virginia itself if you are a Kerry voter in Virginia get out and vote it is going down to the wire in Virginia.

Kind Regards Walker

I live in Virginia and I am <s>voting</s> (Im eleven) ruting for Bush and there is nothing you can do about it either.

P.S.

Why does everyone think Bush is evil? Have Any of you heard that Kerry is raising the tax income or whatever it's called? And I saw a vid that showed his comrades in Vietnam. And Guess What! They said he was just horrible to them. And he says he can make the whole US safe from terrorism. I personaly think that that's Immpossible. No offense to democrats and Kerry people but am I right?

Oh and one other thing.... (no offense btw) with that monster slash flash vid.... do you really think kerry will stop that? (And be honest here) Btw, No Offense at all!

Your eleven?!

Please, step away from the politics and go out and enjoy yourself.

Ordinarily I would encourage getting involved, but you have the dubious honour of being around in one of the most petty and pathetic elections I have ever seen.

Forget all the ads you saw, as at your age you assume they are telling the truth. Both parties distort the truth so much its sickening.

So forget all the evil-kerry propoganda you have read, and if someone tells you Bush is actually working for Satan, don't believe it either.

So get off the PC, stuff the election, and go and have some fun.

(BTW - Does anyone else think getting children this young involved is wrong. Politicians are so corrupt, we shouldn't let them anywhere near them)

yeah, I guess you're right. (and I am not a PC freak) but sometimes I can't help it-I can't stand it when people  bash Bush or Kerry. If you are voting for Kerry, vote for him. And just tell the other person voting for Bush: 'Ok man. Do what you want to. Good luck to Bush" and don't start talking about them. But there isn't much to do at my house right now.

[Acecombat 0]

Wait a minute halt everything , going back to that 11 yr old kid , how'd he buy an OFP CD anyway its got a rating of 15+

[sputnik monroe 102]

I'm a registerd voter in the state of Virginia who has decided to vote for Bush. When I cast my ballot I'll be thinking of you Walker.