Acecombat 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Dude, you have no idea what your talking about. Download the digitalgrenade.com addon pack, install it, and then look under west men under "M4A1 - blah" and you'll see an OBVIOUS difference in quality. Blackdog i have tried it longtime ago . But i prefer BAS's M-4 since their textures are nice and aesthetic as always.Besides its Flipers M-4 model that BAS use didnt they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Now your saying its ok to make a better M4.But your against makeing the samething over.Whats the deal,Are you bored and want to bicth an moan about something that you can not control.I understand what you mean about doing something else besides something that is already been done.But how can someone tell the person doing and addon what to do.If I was a moderator I would have moved this to the "OFF TOPIC".Because this has nothing to do with the production of an addon,Just a bunch of whinning.But Im not a mod so I cant do anything about it. For GS this isnt whinning or moaning or anything .. i just wanted to know which addons do you guys think is mostly overdone thats all.Its still OFP related so i cant see it going in OT unless you have a personal issue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Frenchman 0 Posted October 2, 2003 I belive this site will tell us what is over done. Here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted October 2, 2003 I guess it must be "personal Issues".I personaly dont like it when people say that enough is enough.So I am sorry for any rudeness. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted October 2, 2003 I guess it must be "personal Issues".I personaly dont like it when people say that enough is enough.So I am sorry for any rudeness. . If anyone found my remarks offensive i am sorry for it guys , but i only wanted to say that some addons have been overdone thats it. No hard feeling NZX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted October 2, 2003 There just arent enough MG42's and M249 versions IMO!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SelectThis 0 Posted October 2, 2003 One reason we have invested alot of effort into JAM is to help in the area of duplicated weapon models from different authors. While JAM does not cover every signle weapon or magazine type ever produced it does replicate the more common ones, like the M4 or AKM. What I would like to see is for authors to get behind the JAM project and utilise the JAM Magazines for at least the more common weapons in their addon packs. One feature that may not be immediately obvious is that a weapon can use a bunch of different magazines (as long as the firing modes are the same). So for example a BAS M4 could be coded (and will be coded in a future update) to use the BAS M4 Mag and the JAM M4 magazines. This lets mission makers decide which magazines they want to equip their units with. BAS ones, if they just want BAS addons, or JAM ones if they are using other M4 addons (that are JAM compliant) so that players can use magazines that are dropped by those other units. JAM is not perfect, but it does help resolve alot of the problems of duplicated weapons. Keep an eye out for JAM 2 which should be available very soon SelectThis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Now children, behave, or I will have to throw you all in a meatgrinder! Seriously, please discuss this topic without flaming or flame baiting each other. There are two things to consider: - Addon makers are free to make whatever they want. You can't force someone to put their talent towards something they aren't interested in making. - Addonmakers should, where possible, try to understand what the community wants. After all, this is their target audience, so to speak. For me personally, I have not much interest in WW2 addons, and think far too much addon making hours have gone into these lately, but I would never say to an addon maker "Hey, why'd you waste time on the Panzer when you could have been making a KA-60. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Now children, behave, or I will have to throw you all in a meatgrinder! Â Seriously, please discuss this topic without flaming or flame baiting each other. There are two things to consider: - Addon makers are free to make whatever they want. You can't force someone to put their talent towards something they aren't interested in making. - Addonmakers should, where possible, try to understand what the community wants. After all, this is their target audience, so to speak. For me personally, I have not much interest in WW2 addons, and think far too much addon making hours have gone into these lately, but I would never say to an addon maker "Hey, why'd you waste time on the Panzer when you could have been making a KA-60. Â I do agree with you on the WW2 addons.Im not much for them.But like they say "If you dont like em Dont download em"So I will stick to that rule I hear it works pretty well.I do respect there dedication to makeing great addons though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taconic 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Weapons: Well I think all the Posible Weapons have been made for OFP so stop that I completely disagree. Just because the M-4 has been done to death (seriously, if I see another new one I might just scream) doesn't mean that "all weapons have been done." Stuff that I can think of that hasn't been done off the top of my head: FN-FAL variations. There are a ton of them as it is one of the most widespread rifles in the world, so why doesn't somebody make a FN-FAL pack rather than yet another M-4 pack that is, to be perfectly honest, almost certainly destined for obscurity unless it's heads and shoulders above what's already out? Russian rifle variations. Where are the scoped AK varieties? Kegetys released some modern ones, but to my knowledge there isn't a single AK-74 addon with any of the scopes in the Russian inventory. FN-P90: I know of only one. It could stand to be improved, Modern weapons: M-29 (I know of several. Inquistor's CS convert is the best one, but it could be better). M-8. OISW. XM312. FN2000. Out of all of those, only one has been made. Then we can get into anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons... Modern RPGs. Where's Javelin? What about the Russian's latest shoulder-fired AA platform? (the name escapes me) What about handguns? There are dozens that haven't been made. There are a ton of weapons that haven't been made. Take a brief look at this site if you don't believe me. People just insist upon making the same ones over and over for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Weapons: Well I think all the Posible Weapons have been made for OFP so stop that  I completely disagree. Just because the M-4 has been done to death (seriously, if I see another new one I might just scream) doesn't mean that "all weapons have been done." Stuff that I can think of that hasn't been done off the top of my head: FN-FAL variations. There are a ton of them as it is one of the most widespread rifles in the world, so why doesn't somebody make a FN-FAL pack rather than yet another M-4 pack that is, to be perfectly honest, almost certainly destined for obscurity unless it's heads and shoulders above what's already out? Russian rifle variations. Where are the scoped AK varieties? Kegetys released some modern ones, but to my knowledge there isn't a single AK-74 addon with any of the scopes in the Russian inventory. FN-P90: I know of only one. It could stand to be improved, Modern weapons: M-29 (I know of several. Inquistor's CS convert is the best one, but it could be better). M-8. OISW. XM312. FN2000. Out of all of those, only one has been made. Then we can get into anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons... Modern RPGs. Where's Javelin? What about the Russian's latest shoulder-fired AA platform? (the name escapes me) What about handguns? There are dozens that haven't been made. There are a ton of weapons that haven't been made. Take a brief look at this site if you don't believe me. People just insist upon making the same ones over and over for some reason. Um, dude, most of those things HAVE been made. Gimme a couple hours and I will post links to them for you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sole 0 Posted October 2, 2003 FN2000 I made one long time ago... here It had some minor bugs tho, but I never came around fixing that and/or adding a GL version Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taconic 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Um, dude, most of those things HAVE been made. Gimme a couple hours and I will post links to them for you Feel free. If I'm wrong, I'd like to see them.I know that DKM had a FN-FAL (pre-Reistance) and somebody else made one that's at ofp.info, but I've yet to see a pack offering variations with aimpoint scopes, grenade launchers. The M203 can be fit on one (don't ask me how,) or any other variations. Or the Enfield-made British variant. I know that Kegetys made a javelin in the ancient past, but it wasn't much more than a retextured AT-4. As for the rest, I've never seen any of them, and I've looked quite a bit (well, aside from the M-29 and the FN-P90, both of which could use improvement.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taconic 0 Posted October 2, 2003 I made one long time ago...here It had some minor bugs tho, but I never came around fixing that and/or adding a GL version Very cool. I never ran across it on any addon sites. Grabbing it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Quote[/b] ] Just because the M-4 has been done to death (seriously, if I see another new one I might just scream) doesn't mean that "all weapons have been done." Stuff that I can think of that hasn't been done off the top of my head: Just what i wanted to say as well I also would like to point out that we have yet to see a proper SAM launcher in OFP , BIS's big sticks are not cutting it for me , so can someone concentrate on that , like IR homing and stuff? That would be so DAMN NICE How about a knife addon for once? Or rifle with a working bayonet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redhawk_six 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Weapons: Well I think all the Posible Weapons have been made for OFP so stop that  Is there a S&W 9mm Automatic with custom RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) engravings, or what about a police expandable baton? (I'm serious, if there is, please post a link, it would save my mod team a lot of time lol) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Weapons: Well I think all the Posible Weapons have been made for OFP so stop that  Is there a S&W 9mm Automatic with custom RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) engravings, or what about a police expandable baton?  (I'm serious, if there is, please post a link, it would save my mod team a lot of time lol) Not exactly with that specs but there is a S&W by Kegetys you could edit that but ask kegetys first Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
earl 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Russian rifle variations. Where are the scoped AK varieties? Kegetys released some modern ones, but to my knowledge there isn't a single AK-74 addon with any of the scopes in the Russian inventory. *cough* [ http://www.ofp.at/pics/russian_weaponsL.jpg ] There's a few (work in progress, unreleased) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Now that wasnt necessary Earl , now i cant help but think how pathetic the rifles i have in OFP look Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Russian rifle variations. Where are the scoped AK varieties? Kegetys released some modern ones, but to my knowledge there isn't a single AK-74 addon with any of the scopes in the Russian inventory.Then we can get into anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons... Modern RPGs. Where's Javelin? What about the Russian's latest shoulder-fired AA platform? (the name escapes me) More scoped AKs are in Mailman´s pack IIRC, there´s an old Javelin and one being made by codeblue, there is a scoped FAL if not a FAL pack...as Fubar said, a lot of what you mentioned has been done "All Jets"?! Bit broad isn't it? Yes it is, that´s why I said it. And chill, people, no one has told authors to do anything, we are just pointing out the addons that are overdone...do what you will with our opinions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowY 0 Posted October 2, 2003 How about a knife addon for once? Or rifle with a working bayonet?  INQ conversions has a nice working bajonet  But my guess is that you`ll have a nice answer back about that one  or this one  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stgn 39 Posted October 2, 2003 To all ho think M4 is dead whach your back you will never know what hit you oh and scream Kurayami scream to be serious I don't think that you can make to meany of the same weapon(except fliper's m4's which has been used in so meany addons and its the same weapon every time ) its a free world and every one can make what they want(just make it whit a bit of quality and I see no harm) STGN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted October 2, 2003 Oh Please not another  I just remembered that the Mp5n has been done to death too and is still being made every day.... That Bayonet doesnt works does it? But INQ weapon pack is nice. EDIT:: OMG i just looked a few topic belwo and another M-4A1 , dude can you do something new with it so that it would be dfferent then others? And i dont mean a diff scope how about a light? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stgn 39 Posted October 2, 2003 Oh Please not another  I just remembered that the Mp5n has been done to death too and is still being made every day.... That Bayonet doesnt works does it? But INQ weapon pack is nice. EDIT:: OMG i just looked a few topic belwo and another M-4A1   , dude can you do something new with it so that it would be dfferent then others? And i dont mean a diff scope how about a light?  Well there has not been made nice(released I like the one I have made for LWP Jaegerkorps) MP5 yet so I see no harm in that. well hov meany M4's do you know which can lock on people and hepl you aim and you can't(ups) make a light on a gun atleased not like on a car. STGN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stgn 39 Posted October 2, 2003 I meant the M203 not the M4. STGN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites