Mbt thread

[Necromancer- 0]

Biased.. or not Biased..

Main Battle Tanks are still.. imo.. important for any large scale military operation.

Yet they are vulnerable for attackers from the air and even from the ground.

I've heard China has a new tank in town..

the type 98

ya know.. from the air.. this tank looks a lot like an Abrams tank.

[-TU--33ker 0]

It still has this old T64 chassis (don't know how it's called). The new turret looks cool but it's not as big as the turret of an Abrams. the new things must be the electronic stuff inside.

[Renagade 0]

Can u beat the armour on the new tanks with succesive hits on the same spot with something like an rpg-7??

Another thing is why the fuck do they stick the machine guns on the turret so the crew have to open the turret to acces it,why not have it done by remote control

[CrunchyFrog 0]

Another thing is why the fuck do they stick the machine guns on the turret so the crew have to open the turret to acces it,why not have it done by remote control

The AA MG on top are also AFAIK remotecontrolled by the tankcommander

[Milkman 1]

ya know.. from the air.. this tank looks a lot like an Abrams tank.  

Perhaps because the Chinese have stolen some of our technology? Schematics, design papers, armor have surley been stolen at one time or another.

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

Can u beat the armour on the new tanks with succesive hits on the same spot with something like an rpg-7??

Another thing is why the fuck do they stick the machine guns on the turret so the crew have to open the turret to acces it,why not have it done by remote control

The commander on the M1 tanks, can either shoot the .50 either buttoned up, or un buttoned.Meaning he can fire it either when he has the hatch open, or when the hatch is closed.When he has the hatch closed, he uses a 3x sight and a joystick to fire the .50 .But when un buttoned he can either use the 3x sight inside the tank, or fire it by being guided in by tracers(the loaders mgun can only be guided in by tracers)

Where as the loader, it can only be fired un buttoned.But he is busy loading the main gun.Theres useally a coax next to the main gun, so the gunner can shoot at human targets to.

[FSPilot 0]

*sniff* One day...

[Milkman 1]

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/a-10-0415a10-s.jpg

*sniff* One day...

Is this Good enough for you?

The Slovakian T-72M1 Moderna turret incorporating the Sabca Vega thermal sight and the Sfim VS580 commanders sight as well as two 20mm Oerlikon Contraves KAA-001 cannon.

[FSPilot 0]

I'll have to pick them off with a maverick from far out, lol

[cam0flage 0]

Very nice ... instead of posting pictures of Abrams and T-80s it would be interesting to see more of these less known variants. That Slovakian tank would make a very original addon, (wink wink RHS) not sure though if it is possible to create these in OFP.

[Milkman 1]

Very nice ... instead of posting pictures of Abrams and T-80s it would be interesting to see more of these less known variants. That Slovakian tank would make a very original addon, (wink wink RHS) not sure though if it is possible to create these in OFP.

Somone created a Mammoth Tank (The big ass tank from Red Alert) With Twin 150mm guns and Twin Mammonth Tusk Rocket launchers. The Mammonth Tusks are mounted in the same area as the Oerlikon cannons would be on a tank.

The only problem was the creator of the addon could not get the missiles to fire from the launcher, instead they came out of the barrel of the cannon.

If somone could get past that problem (And they have) then the T72M1 is entirely possible.

[Necromancer- 0]

this chinese tank is imo revolutionary...

it is the first tank that could prevent to be fired upon.

If you compare this tank with the Abrams.. it is a lot smaller.. thus harder to hit.

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

With the M1 tanks, you are basiclly fireing the round just right after you lase it.It only takes about 1 to 3sec for it all to happen(plus a sabot is flying at about 7000 ft. per sec).It would take a while for that tank to turn the turret facing the target, get the sight on the tank, get the range, and fire it.About 4-5 secs there.

Plus if there is a row of them, you only need to lase one tank, and its stores the range data in the computer, so the other tanks wouldn't know where the hell the round came from.And all the M1 has to do is just keep pullin the trigger.

Plus only 8 rounds a min?

The M1's loaders can load a round in less then 3-5 secs.So the M1's can have a heck of a lot of rounds flyin faster then an autoloader can load.

This applys to German and british tanks to.

Plus using a diesel engine.You give the M1 an advantage.They are very quiet, while diesels are very noisy.

(lol miss spelled quiet ;) )

[mr. Duck 0]

How about them Israeli tanks? A bit big, yes, but they look good (especially the Merkava 3D).  

Plus they got some nice extra's too. (ability to carry an infantry squad, build-in mortar, can fire rockets from the barrel too, backdoor...)

[DracoPaladore 0]

Plus using a diesel engine.You give the M1 an advantage.They are very quite, while diesels are very noisy.

A quiet tank, theres a contradiction if I've ever heard pme

[Shashman 0]

A little offtopic, but I reckon if this can knock out an artillery shell midflight it shouldn't be too long before the same can be done to a tank shell...Bloody hell...This is some revolutionary sh*t!

[USSoldier11B 0]

Quote[/b] ]Can u beat the armour on the new tanks with succesive hits on the same spot with something like an rpg-7??

I don't think any of the currently fielded RPG's can defeat Abram's armor. I guess it depends on how many you have and how long you think the damn thing will just sit there.

Quote[/b] ]Plus using a diesel engine.You give the M1 an advantage.They are very quiet, while diesels are very noisy.

Nah, where as a diesel tank sound like an ailing semi-truck, M1's sound like small jet aircraft. The first time I heard one start up I was startled.

Quote[/b] ]this chinese tank is imo revolutionary

I'll investigate for sure. I'm skeptical. Nations like Germany, U.K, Israel, and The U.S. have much larger R&D budgets. I'd like to see the Leo in action, I respect Germany's prowess in producing fine weapons and armor. I once saw some concept designs for a new General Dynamics MBT but I can't seem to find the info now. I recall it have the signature oversized turret, but it had a radically low profile. Currenlty the Abrams series is supposed to remain fielded until 2015. It seems like the DoD is satisfied with the Abrams from now, despite it's somewhat large size, it's weapons range is still superior to current threats to U.S. armor.

[FSPilot 0]

that is some pretty neat stuff. it'd make SAMs obsolete.

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

while diesels are very noisy.

Actually not all diesels are noisy. I know tanks have a larger engine but Dodge's new 8.0 Liter V-10 deisel built by Magnum is suprisingly quiet for a diesel.

[llauma 0]

Read more about it at Chinese Defence Today

[FSPilot 0]

that does look amazingly like the M1A1

sure hope they dont have our armor though.

[Milkman 1]

I beleive it is soft homogenous steel. Just like them T-55s

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ARMOUR: The turret and hull are of all-welded steel armour construction. A layer of composite armour has been added to the front arc. The armour package is of modular design, enabling damaged sections to be replaced or upgrades installed throughout service life. Explosive reactive armour (ERA) can be fitted if required.

Although this sucker sounds interesting...

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ACTIVE PROTECTION: The Type 98 features an JD-3 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defence device. Unlike contemporary Russian active tank self-defense systems like Drozd, Drozd-2, and Arena, which launch projectiles to disable or "shoot-down" incoming anti-tank missiles and projectiles, the Chinese system apparently uses a high-powered laser to directly attack the enemy weapon's optics and gunner.

"Fire the "Laser" ! "  

[Tovarish 0]

that does look amazingly like the M1A1

I'll go with [TU]$33ker on this one. The chassis is definitely based on the T-64, and though the turret is similar in shape to the M1A1's, the size of it is very different. You can also see that the top of the turret is more "domed" than the Abrahams:

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

I find a problem with that Chinese tank.When the driver is un-buttoned, the barrel has to be elevate up, so it doesn't exactly rest on the drivers head.(But I don't think its a biggie problem)

Where as the M1 tanks, the barrel can be in any postion, and wouldn't get in the drivers way.

BTW Tovarish, that pictures of the Abrams, is a M1 Abrams, not the M1A1(or at least it looks like the M1 Abrams, because the barrel looks to be a 105mm).But either way, its still the Abrams series.

M1A1 Abrams:

M1A2 Abrams test series tank:

(currently being used in Iraq)

And now I here that we are in development of a M1A3 tank with (from what I hear) a 140 mm barrel.

[FSPilot 0]

Quote[/b] ]ACTIVE PROTECTION: The Type 98 features an JD-3 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defence device. Unlike contemporary Russian active tank self-defense systems like Drozd, Drozd-2, and Arena, which launch projectiles to disable or "shoot-down" incoming anti-tank missiles and projectiles, the Chinese system apparently uses a high-powered laser to directly attack the enemy weapon's optics and gunner.

i dont know about you but i dont see any lasers on that tank

is it possible the commanders have it attached to their head?