m21man 0 Posted December 9, 2003 Quote[/b] ]Some of us are just interested inVBS1,Im dont care how good it is,im just interested in it. Because it's "Forbidden Fruit"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted December 10, 2003 Quote[/b] ]EligibilityThe VBS1â„¢ products are only sold to federal, state, and local government agencies for military, law enforcement, homeland defense, and first responder training. To help reduce administrative costs, we request that only qualified organizations contact us for purchases or additional information. Ok so, surely we have an OFP player who works for a suitable local government agency...say, a US cop.......hell, we'll all club for the legal fee's... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted December 10, 2003 It does not matter, VBS has licences assigned to individual machines, so even if someone got a copy, it would only be usable on that machine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted December 10, 2003 Hehe, well, clever my butt, cracking a web site is nothing compared to getting around hardware keys. Err, shouldn't be discussing hacking of VBS ya know... mods will get upset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted December 10, 2003 I mean the moderators will start handing out the little color bars under our avatars. And that's not a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted December 10, 2003 Right, if we WERE to suggest such a thing....i dont see any such suggestion, do you ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted December 10, 2003 In such instances as you hinted on I think you'll find it would result in permanent bans with no warning, I would suggest you drop the topic immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted December 10, 2003 Rgr that, we were just agreeing that it would be wrong.... Anyway, from what i see of VBS screenies, it basically just looks like another mod for OFP....probably borrowed aload of stuff from mods (scripts, or ideas at least, ect)....id be happier with OFP 2 in my hands than VBS...especially if OFP2 is more realistic (which is what makes soldier sims popular). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted December 15, 2003 Quote[/b] ]Anyway, from what i see of VBS screenies, it basically just looks like another mod for OFP....probably borrowed aload of stuff from mods (scripts, or ideas at least, ect).... Probably the next thing they'll release is an addon to VBS that adds a fictional African island to practice jungle combat techniques on . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted December 17, 2003 At least it wont be a colombian map....:D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BraTTy 0 Posted January 6, 2004 If we knew more about VBS its possible that people may make addons suitable for VBS also (civil,swat etc..) This post is also to rid that awful mp sux topic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshal=TOB= 0 Posted January 8, 2004 Quote[/b] ]If we knew more about VBS its possible that people may make addons suitable for VBS also (civil,swat etc..)This post is also to rid that awful mp sux topic Would never happen...it's a violation of the contract..no altering the game what so ever. I do know one thing...the Marine Corps is so fed up with VBS that they are using OFP instead, but due to contracts they have to keep buying the damn thing. VBS is so limited in what it can do and what can be added. You can't just take OFP addons and throw them in there, because the config and coding is slightly different. Thats why they started using OFP instead. An almost unlimited addon base, more realistic graphics, loads of tutorials on how to create realistic missions, Â ect. I think VBS has met it's match with OFP. The child has surpassed the parent. It's like having a video game but the game company won't tell you how to mod it so you can add more stuff to it...it eventually fades out and dies...take the Online game WWII. It was the same thing as OFP, release two years earlier, but you had to pay to play and you couldn't add mods or newer vehicles...the game just faded away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted January 8, 2004 gives me an idea. maybe USMC should order OFP2 in advance and if CM fails to deliever them on same release date as EU, USMC will show what happens. of course, i think it's about time we refresh our minds that VBS, despite heavily based on BIS's engine, seems to be dealt through Coalescence(?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 8, 2004 This post is also to rid that awful mp sux topic I got rid of it manually, it was bugging me as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted January 8, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Would never happen...it's a violation of the contract..no altering the game what so ever. I do know one thing...the Marine Corps is so fed up with VBS that they are using OFP instead, but due to contracts they have to keep buying the damn thing. VBS is so limited in what it can do and what can be added. You can't just take OFP addons and throw them in there, because the config and coding is slightly different. Thats why they started using OFP instead. An almost unlimited addon base, more realistic graphics, loads of tutorials on how to create realistic missions, Â ect. I think VBS has met it's match with OFP. The child has surpassed the parent. So, the Marines use OFP? I wonder if they use Earl and Suchey's Marines . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted January 8, 2004 Told you not to freak out about VBS... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waffendennis 0 Posted January 9, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Would never happen...it's a violation of the contract..no altering the game what so ever. I do know one thing...the Marine Corps is so fed up with VBS that they are using OFP instead, but due to contracts they have to keep buying the damn thing. VBS is so limited in what it can do and what can be added. You can't just take OFP addons and throw them in there, because the config and coding is slightly different. Thats why they started using OFP instead. An almost unlimited addon base, more realistic graphics, loads of tutorials on how to create realistic missions, Â ect. I think VBS has met it's match with OFP. The child has surpassed the parent. So, the Marines use OFP? I wonder if they use Earl and Suchey's Marines . No They use their own Marines... With the default BIS weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted January 9, 2004 gives me an idea. maybe USMC should order OFP2 in advance and if CM fails to deliever them on same release date as EU, USMC will show what happens. of course, i think it's about time we refresh our minds that VBS, despite heavily based on BIS's engine, seems to be dealt through Coalescence(?) Hopefully forum spammers and moderators alike can get advance copies ;p Quote[/b] ] Quote[/b] ]Would never happen...it's a violation of the contract..no altering the game what so ever. I do know one thing...the Marine Corps is so fed up with VBS that they are using OFP instead, but due to contracts they have to keep buying the damn thing. VBS is so limited in what it can do and what can be added. You can't just take OFP addons and throw them in there, because the config and coding is slightly different. Thats why they started using OFP instead. An almost unlimited addon base, more realistic graphics, loads of tutorials on how to create realistic missions, ect. I think VBS has met it's match with OFP. The child has surpassed the parent. So, the Marines use OFP? I wonder if they use Earl and Suchey's Marines . No They use their own Marines... With the default BIS weapons. And since you are in the USMC, I guess you woukd know this. *sarcasm* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 9, 2004 Hopefully forum spammers and moderators alike can get advance copies ;p YES! I'M IN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted January 9, 2004 Interesting, theres o2 and visitor, many tuts. about mission design, many user made units, some of wich are very realistic and varied (theres even artillery ). Do the marines really need VBS? Their the ones with access to all types of map intel and vehical/equipment data, is coalescent something like the marine own private addon/mission studio . Im guessing they couldnt use OPF without some special agreement/contract with codemasters and BIS so this is where coalescent comes in. Quote[/b] ]No They use their own Marines...With the default BIS weapons. I have no idea of how VBS1 is used but im guessing weapons and looks aint really important, maybe its used more like to simulate troop deployment on diferent types of cenarios, comunication and coordination of diferent teams and aproaching and securing specific objectives/locations. More of a strategic tool rather than a FPS i mean . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e.t. 0 Posted January 10, 2004 Im a Marine, and a friend of mine was on temporary duty where they use VBS for training and stuff. He couldnt tell me much about what they did in there cause you have to have a certain security clearance for that type of info. Although, he did show me a video that was he making by request of the 3rdLAR, to show how the simulated combat worked. He used OFP and not VBS to make this video. Was a short vid. of USMC LAV's, AAV's, and infantry units (all custom addons from the OFP community) atacking various enemies inside the city of Petrovice i think it was. He didnt say that he preferred OFP over VBS, but i thought it was kinda funny OFP is what he used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ale2999 0 Posted January 10, 2004 Im a Marine, and a friend of mine was on temporary duty where they use VBS for training and stuff. Â He couldnt tell me much about what they did in there cause you have to have a certain security clearance for that type of info.Although, he did show me a video that was he making by request of the 3rdLAR, to show how the simulated combat worked. Â He used OFP and not VBS to make this video. Â Was a short vid. of USMC LAV's, AAV's, and infantry units (all custom addons from the OFP community) atacking various enemies inside the city of Petrovice i think it was. He didnt say that he preferred OFP over VBS, but i thought it was kinda funny OFP is what he used. or maybe he showed u ofp cuz u didnt have clearance to see vbs or perhaps he is not to take vbs to play at home as its not really a game.... so at home he practices on ofp. how does that sound for an explanation? lol. looking at this thread i just want to laugh, hard. Most of you are just speculating about what you dont even know for certain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted January 10, 2004 lol. looking at this thread i just want to laugh, hard. Most of you are just speculating about what you dont even know for certain. Yeah, and if you practice hard you can get really good at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites