berghoff 11 Posted March 30, 2003 Man,Ofp's performence is lagging? when only a few enemy tanks are on the screen I get only ten frames! This is not happening!!! any ideas? options: 1200x1024x32 View: 900 Terrain: Normal Frames: 20..40 Detail:max Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted March 30, 2003 You have small RAM... You might have a slow processor. MAX detail really lags it to death, consider changing it to 'high' detail instead. Run dxdiag and then post your specs here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skunk Monkey 0 Posted March 31, 2003 Turn off Antialising, it really does make performance suffer for very little extra quality. I presume you have a 2Ghz 1024DDR machine with that 9600 and not a 1.4Ghz 256 Ram. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berghoff 11 Posted March 31, 2003 1400+ Athlon Asus av7266 motherboard 768mb DDR-ram SB Live 5.1! cat 3.2 no AA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphelion79 0 Posted April 1, 2003 yeah i can turn my visuals WAY down and it'll lag most of the time... ... next purchace im going to stay away from ATI... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UberKreb 0 Posted April 2, 2003 Dang, you're having problems with OFP with a 9700 Pro? Hmm, I have a 2.4ghz, 512 RDRAM, Radeon 9700 Pro, and I rarely have problems with framerates. I have 4x AA, 16x AF, max detail, normal terrain, 1200x1024, etc. Do you have your display device set for Direct3D T&L, not Direct3D? I remember I was getting horrible framerates until I enabled T&L. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAsta_KFC 0 Posted April 2, 2003 Uberkreb, I dunno why, but when I play night missions with ofp and my 9700pro, the textures seem *REALLY* washed out, so much that the game is almost black and white. This is on a AMD2400+ 512 ddram Cat 3.2 dx9.0 Anyone else have this prob? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R. Gerschwarzenge 0 Posted April 2, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MAsta_KFC @ April 02 2003,15:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Uberkreb, I dunno why, but when I play night missions with ofp and my 9700pro, the textures seem *REALLY* washed out, so much that the game is almost black and white. This is on a AMD2400+ 512 ddram Cat 3.2 dx9.0 Anyone else have this prob?<span id='postcolor'> It's a feature not a bug. In real life you don't see much colours at dark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted April 2, 2003 Any video card with DirectX Pixel Shader 1.0+ support shows mostly black-and-white graphics at night starting with OFP V1.20. That's by design, and a Really Cool Feature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toadlife 3 Posted April 3, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (UberKreb @ April 01 2003,19:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dang, you're having problems with OFP with a 9700 Pro? Hmm, I have a 2.4ghz, 512 RDRAM....<span id='postcolor'> And HE has a 1.2Ghz athlon. With OFP, the processor counts just as much as the Vid Card! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAsta_KFC 0 Posted April 3, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ April 02 2003,20:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Any video card with DirectX Pixel Shader 1.0+ support shows mostly black-and-white graphics at night starting with OFP V1.20. That's by design, and a Really Cool Featureâ„¢.<span id='postcolor'> Really!? Well, the only reason why i bought it up was that i used to have a gf2mx400 and i changed to a 9700 pro. Loaded up the night missions i was tinkering with and thought *whoa*, driver problem. Thanks guys. EDIT: BTW Is there an directx option to disable Pixel Shader? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skunk Monkey 0 Posted April 3, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MAsta_KFC @ April 03 2003,12:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ April 02 2003,20:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Any video card with DirectX Pixel Shader 1.0+ support shows mostly black-and-white graphics at night starting with OFP V1.20. That's by design, and a Really Cool Featureâ„¢.<span id='postcolor'> BTW Is there an directx option to disable Pixel Shader? Thanks<span id='postcolor'> Why do people hate the pixel shaded night?? I know it looked odd the first time I saw it, but you get used to it, THEN YOU LOVE IT !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted April 3, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MAsta_KFC @ April 03 2003,04:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">EDIT: BTW Is there an directx option to disable Pixel Shader? Thanks<span id='postcolor'> Try running with the "Direct3D" renderer instead of "Direct3D with HW T&L" -- I'm not promising anything, but that may disable the use of pixel shaders. You'll also take a big hit in performance when you do that, however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAsta_KFC 0 Posted April 4, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Skunk Monkey @ April 03 2003,14:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MAsta_KFC @ April 03 2003,12:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ April 02 2003,20:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Any video card with DirectX Pixel Shader 1.0+ support shows mostly black-and-white graphics at night starting with OFP V1.20. That's by design, and a Really Cool Featureâ„¢.<span id='postcolor'> BTW Is there an directx option to disable Pixel Shader? Thanks<span id='postcolor'> Why do people hate the pixel shaded night?? I know it looked odd the first time I saw it, but you get used to it, THEN YOU LOVE IT !!!!<span id='postcolor'> I dont 'hate' it per se, but i think it looks a bit too faded. I mean when I drive the car at night, I don't see black and white to the extend of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted April 4, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MAsta_KFC @ April 04 2003,07:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I dont 'hate' it per se, but i think it looks a bit too faded. I mean when I drive the car at night, I don't see black and white to the extend of the game.<span id='postcolor'> At night, your eyes detect shades of gray in the absence of direct lighting. When you are driving in a car, you have white headlights (in most countries) lighting up the objects in front of you, which allows you to see fairly vibrant colors. The effect in OFP may not be perfect, but it is fairly accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-iCeMaN- 0 Posted April 5, 2003 Try putting Detail down, it causes most of the lag. Or run DxDiag (DirectX Diagnosis) and post the specs under the System and Display tabs. -iCe- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berghoff 11 Posted April 5, 2003 Right I'll post them after a while! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berghoff 11 Posted April 13, 2003 ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 4/13/2003, 05:49:55 Machine name: TERMINATOR Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp1.020828-1920) Language: English (Regional Setting: Dutch) System Manufacturer: n/a System Model: n/a BIOS: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0 Processor: AMD Athlon XP1600+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.4GHz Memory: 768MB RAM Page File: 140MB used, 1738MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0 (4.09.0000.0900) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.0000.0900 32bit Unicode ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ DirectX Files Tab: No problems found. Display Tab 1: No problems found. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Music Tab: No problems found. Input Tab: No problems found. Network Tab: No problems found. --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: RADEON 9700 PRO Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: Radeon 9700AGP (ND) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E44&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00 Display Memory: 128.0 MB Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (85Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0001.6307 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 2/28/2003 22:39:22, 272512 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: n/a Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys Mini VDD Date: 2/28/2003 22:38:56, 576512 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D04-11CF-116B-0320A1C2CB35} Here is some info... I still got bad performence! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berghoff 11 Posted April 13, 2003 I can't be my processor right? ofp req is 700mhz mine is 1400mhz. BTW I got cat 3.2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAsta_KFC 0 Posted April 14, 2003 This is not REALLY topic related, but after reading your specs, I have a general question. How does a Monitor refresh rate affect performance/graphics/enjoyment in a game? My Monitor only refreshed 60, if I got a monitor witha higher refresh rate, how does that affect my game play? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted April 14, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MAsta_KFC @ April 14 2003,12:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is not REALLY topic related, but after reading your specs, I have a general question. How does a Monitor refresh rate affect performance/graphics/enjoyment in a game? My Monitor only refreshed 60, if I got a monitor witha higher refresh rate, how does that affect my game play? Thanks.<span id='postcolor'> Not at all. The gfx card doesn't render more or less frames wether you use a high or a low refresh rate. So set the refresh rate as high as possible (over 85Hz doesn't make much difference, but try not to get lower), as low refresh rates stress you eyes unnescessarily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-iCeMaN- 0 Posted April 14, 2003 It's not all based on your video card, just 'cause you got a ATI 9700 doesn't mean you got the best graphics in the world. You could have a slow processor or low RAM. If you have XP you should have atleast 256mb of RAM for good performance, and when it comes to OFP, 512. And also put down the detail in OFP, that's what usually brings down the performance, and plus, detail doesn't really make any dramatic difference in the game anyway. -iCe- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted April 17, 2003 Sorry for bumping this thread but i have an idea to what the problem might be. ATI's products are more or less compatible depending on your system specs, OS and other fun little things. What you are experiencing is most likely the "stutter" issue, i have encounterd it sparsley on other ATI products (8500,9500) but not on my new card (9700pro) There is really nothing you can do about it until ATI releases the Cataclyst 3.3 drivers (those are said to fix all stutter complications and most texture incompabilities) And also the pixel-shaded night is the best thing that ever happned to me, it looks so realistic and beatiful when you are using your search lights at night... *goes back to playing with search-lights* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted April 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GoOB @ April 17 2003,05:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And also the pixel-shaded night is the best thing that ever happned to me, it looks so realistic and beatiful when you are using your search lights at night... *goes back to playing with search-lights*<span id='postcolor'> Have you tried shooting flares yet? Set yourself up with a good rifle and some flares in a nice, hilly and wooded area, and go night hunting. Boatloads of fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted April 17, 2003 Yeup, used the Bas illum rockets aswell. Also you need to see pixel-shaded water in Morrowind, that is the second most wonderful thing that ever happened to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
