beno_83au 1369 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ Mar. 21 2003,03:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Othin @ Mar. 21 2003,03:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Mar. 20 2003,18:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ Mar. 21 2003,11:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">CH-46 down....16 on board....none expected alive<span id='postcolor'> BBC is saying that it was 12 Americans and 4 British dead.<span id='postcolor'> err, I've heard the exact opposite. Â 4 American crew, 12 British "Commandos". Â Since it's a CH-46 I would say that's more likely.<span id='postcolor'> BBC is reporting exact opposite. 12 Americans, 4 UKs.<span id='postcolor'> Lol, I'm hearing off CNN that it involved 16 men, including British troops so thats pointing to the 4 aircrew being American. I know the French are openly against the war, but I swear that when forces were being deployed to the Gulf I saw some news footage of a soldier firing a FAMAS in the Kuwaiti desert. I don't know of any other nation in the world who use the FAMAS so I'm assuming it's the FFL. Anyone have any comments? Also, "Shock and Awe" Wouldn't "phsycological operations" or something else along those lines sound a bit more inteligent? Good luck to all those involved, but especially to the Australian SAS, 4RAR and all our other forces who are deployed to the Gulf. Lucky bastards get tax free pay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Kuwaiti warrant officer I served with had scars on his back that stretched for twelve years. Remember this - Only 1 out of every 2 or 3 people in Kuwait is actually a Kuwaiti. Nearly everyone else is from Egypt, India, Pakistan or the Philippines. It's very possible that this reporter was talking to a Pakistani. Can you tell the difference between a Paki and a Kuwaiti? I can't, and I lived over there for six months. Besides, all the Kuwaitis are probably living it up in the bars and casinos of Bahrain right now waiting for this all to be over. I also never met a Kuwaiti that ever forgot the invasion. You can't forget - the roadside walls are covered in Kuwaiti and American flags. There are still entire towns ovet there that were so totally destroyed that they just abandoned them and build new towns a kilometer away. How can you forget something like that?<span id='postcolor'> I stand corrected. I was refering to the 'light hearted' moment the Denoir refered to. As for Pakistani's, I wouldn't call them 'Pakis'. Its considered an nasty insult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ack state ur news source,on itv channel here they had it showing mnbc i think talking about the crash and had a little 3d model of it with stats just a moment ago.<span id='postcolor'> For the record, I'm getting my news off the BBC News 24 channel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Mar. 20 2003,20:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Kuwaiti warrant officer I served with had scars on his back that stretched for twelve years. Â Remember this - Only 1 out of every 2 or 3 people in Kuwait is actually a Kuwaiti. Nearly everyone else is from Egypt, India, Pakistan or the Philippines. It's very possible that this reporter was talking to a Pakistani. Can you tell the difference between a Paki and a Kuwaiti? I can't, and I lived over there for six months. Besides, all the Kuwaitis are probably living it up in the bars and casinos of Bahrain right now waiting for this all to be over. I also never met a Kuwaiti that ever forgot the invasion. You can't forget - the roadside walls are covered in Kuwaiti and American flags. There are still entire towns ovet there that were so totally destroyed that they just abandoned them and build new towns a kilometer away. How can you forget something like that?<span id='postcolor'> I stand corrected. I was refering to the 'light hearted' moment the Denoir refered to. As for Pakistani's, I wouldn't call them 'Pakis'. Its considered an nasty insult.<span id='postcolor'> I didn't know that... I was just abbreviating. My apologies. I'll go edit that. In fact, since it has nothing to do with this topic at all I should probably just edit the whole dang thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm trying to figure out where exactly this picture was taken: <span id='postcolor'> Take the tower in the right as a point of interest. It is a presidential palace. At least that´s what my maps say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turms 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Mar. 21 2003,03:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can ppl post up some links to news sources for quick retrivial of information. <span id='postcolor'> Here is a linkpage for the war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted March 21, 2003 does anyone have a link to a stationary highres geosat with public stream covering Iraq ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted March 21, 2003 From my BBC map, it looks like that pic could be either one of four palaces or the Baath Party HQ. All of these are located on the river bank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">does anyone have a link to a stationary highres geosat with public stream covering Iraq ?<span id='postcolor'> What about this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted March 21, 2003 Actually, BBC caption now saying that it's the Ministry of Planning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote does anyone have a link to a stationary highres geosat with public stream covering Iraq ? What about this? <span id='postcolor'> not a real feed but good for me at this time. Big thx ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Mar. 21 2003,03:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ack state ur news source,on itv channel here they had it showing  mnbc i think talking about the crash and had a little 3d model of it with stats just a moment ago.<span id='postcolor'> For the record, I'm getting my news off the BBC News 24 channel.<span id='postcolor'> it was itv i was looking at the particular moment,im flicking between bbc and itv. quickly off topic, pakis not widely acknowledged as an insult it seems some radio stations say it is and some website filter personaly i`d use it as an abrreviation like it shorten british to brit. and thanks for the links ppl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Mar. 21 2003,03:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm trying to figure out where exactly this picture was taken: <span id='postcolor'> Take the tower in the right as a point of interest. It is a presidential palace. At least that´s what my maps say.<span id='postcolor'> It's not the presidential palace. The red square is the Baghdad presidential palace: Close up: High rez picture I figure out from the width of the bridge in the picture, the proximity of the road to the water that it's in the blue marked area. I have however trouble matching the white silos seen on the left to anything on the satmap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted March 21, 2003 now some stuff from a journalist down there with the troops. Some nightsigght shots of the tanks an d some wreckage more of wreckagge but didnt really say if it was the chinook or not. The guy said that thy could see burning in basra to thier east. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted March 21, 2003 Iraq Confirms It Fired Missiles This after denying they did. Be interesting to see if they find the wreckage of the missiles and they do indeed turn out to be SCUD missiles...missiles illegal under resolutions, and Saddam denied having any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">quickly off topic, pakis not widely acknowledged as an insult it seems some radio stations say it is and some website filter personaly i`d use it as an abrreviation like it shorten british to brit.<span id='postcolor'> Try it. Find the nearest Pakistani area, and call someone a 'Paki'. I hope you can run.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beno_83au 1369 Posted March 21, 2003 Sky News Australia (I think) is saying that an Abrams crewman said that they had engaged and destroyed two T-72s, and that on one of the OPs that were assaulted there were 4 Iraqi KIA. I guess the Iraqis aren't too keen on fighting it out yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 21, 2003 Would you? Some of the poor bastards managed to survive the '91 war, so they know whats coming... I'm off to sleep now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ Mar. 21 2003,04:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Iraq Confirms It Fired Missiles This after denying they did. Be interesting to see if they find the wreckage of the missiles and they do indeed turn out to be SCUD missiles...missiles illegal under resolutions, and Saddam denied having any.<span id='postcolor'> ISnt it more that they have denied firing SCUD missiles? If they are Al Samoud or other theater missiles, they arent usning anything they arent allowed to. I did get one laugh earlier when some it was reported that a US serviceman said that it looked like the kind of crate a SCUD would leave. How on earth could you tell? If they payload was of a similar size, you really couldnt tell the type of missile, could you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted March 21, 2003 Now on itv there was some shots of tanks travelling across the desert,daylight.The commentator is saying either  m1a1s but the shots that clear to get a good look at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Mar. 21 2003,04:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Now on itv there was some shots of tanks travelling across the desert,daylight.The commentator is saying either  m1a1s but the shots that clear to get a good look at it.<span id='postcolor'> Ted Koppel with the 3rd Infantry Div. stated that they are crossing the border now with "tanks". Those could be the ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Beno @ Mar. 21 2003,04:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sky News Australia (I think) is saying that an Abrams crewman said that they had engaged and destroyed two T-72s, and that on one of the OPs that were assaulted there were 4 Iraqi KIA. I guess the Iraqis aren't too keen on fighting it out yet.<span id='postcolor'> put 2 T-72s and 1 Abrams on desert island and see who wins. denoir, try second bridge. watching east from west side of the bridge. there is a small white struture on east bank. 2 other places i've considering. south of picture, there is a bridge from agricultural field at south to peninsul-ish place that stretches btw east and west. south east of the picture, there is a small sand gathering in middle of river, where smoke is coming out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloney 0 Posted March 21, 2003 Marine Helicopter Crash, 16 Killed. The Chopper was a CH-46 Sea Knight. I guess those things have a problem with the whole "staying airborne" thing. Marine Chopper Crash Kills 16 in Kuwait. My prayers go out to the families of these brave British and American soldiers who died fighting so that we can sleep in comfort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's not the presidential palace. The red square is the Baghdad presidential palace: I have however trouble matching the white silos seen on the left to anything on the satmap.<span id='postcolor'> I see 3 or 4 bridges in the satellite picture that I don't see in the BDA picture, are you sure that's what we're looking at? edit - <a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&ncid=716&e=3&u=/ap/20030321/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_us_military" target="_blank"> U.S. Talks With Iraqis About Surrender</a> I had no idea they were actually communicating with the Iraqis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ Mar. 21 2003,04:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Mar. 21 2003,04:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Now on itv there was some shots of tanks travelling across the desert,daylight.The commentator is saying either  m1a1s but the shots that clear to get a good look at it.<span id='postcolor'> Ted Koppel with the 3rd Infantry Div. stated that they are crossing the border now with "tanks". Those could be the ones.<span id='postcolor'> 7th cavalry they say,the footage is being played again. Water tanks stuck round the turret and and an orange blob on the back for friendly fire reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
