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I have a mission that I have been playing for years.  Yesterday I played the mission and the AI wont see me.  The see me coming down in a parachute and shoot at me but once I land they dont see me.  The map has around 800 AI all Dynamic Simulation.  Before you say that the 800 AI is the problem, I will say once again I have been playing this mission almost every day for years and used to have this problem then it stopped.  I have played this mission every day the past 2 months with no issues at all.  Now I can walk right up to them and they dont shoot.  I can kill one of them and his partner will randomly shoot.  Is it possible that the mission file gets corrupted?  Does the mission file ever get written to in game?

 

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If you have been loading the same save for these "past 2 months" something might have got broken, I don't think Arma 3 was ever made to work in such cases. Mods are being constantly updated so if you use them, they may be the culprit. Not much info you have given us to be honest, so do not expect a solution really.

 

You might start from sending us a link to that mission, giving your modset if you're using mods, you can also look into your RPT file to check if there are any warnings or errors listed.

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  On 1/14/2023 at 2:33 PM, major-stiffy said:

You can edit the mission by adding setFriend and see if that helps.

Is that added in the initPlayerLocal.sqf file?  Also too I wonder even if this does help, how could the file have changed and all of a sudden they dont see me.  Also why do they see me in the parachute but once I land, those same guys dont see me?

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  On 1/14/2023 at 9:05 PM, BlackbirdSD said:

Also why

 

  On 1/13/2023 at 10:52 PM, honger said:

You might start from sending us a link to that mission, giving your modset if you're using mods, you can also look into your RPT file to check if there are any warnings or errors listed.

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  On 1/14/2023 at 9:35 PM, Harzach said:

 

I have no dependant mods but I do use jsrs sound and blastcore while playing.  Where do I find the RPT file?

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  On 1/14/2023 at 10:35 PM, BlackbirdSD said:

Where do I find the RPT file?

C:\Users\your username\AppData\Local\Arma 3

Be sure its the latest by looking at the name or title of the rpt which is the year, month, day, and time.rpt

make sure your [ ] no logs was unchecked in your arma 3 launcher parameters to get a full rpt.

 

Open it with notepad when you locate it, select all, press control c to copy it, and then paste it here:

https://justpaste.it/

publish it, and then paste the link in your reply.

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  On 1/14/2023 at 11:56 PM, Gunter Severloh said:

C:\Users\your username\AppData\Local\Arma 3

Be sure its the latest by looking at the name or title of the rpt which is the year, month, day, and time.rpt

make sure your [ ] no logs was unchecked in your arma 3 launcher parameters to get a full rpt.

 

Open it with notepad when you locate it, select all, press control c to copy it, and then paste it here:

https://justpaste.it/

publish it, and then paste the link in your reply.

I tried that "justpaste.it" link and when I paste the file it says page is not responding and it wont paste.  Can I past it here?  Its large

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I had no issues pasting my rpt to the site.

If you paste it here put it into a spoiler.

 

Whats the mission your playing as you haven't said anything about what it is?

You create it, or is it a subbed mission?

No mods other then blastcore and JSRS, did you try playing without those?

How are you playing, in the editor, under scenarios, mp lan, dedicated, rented, server your joining?

 

You clear the saves here?   -----> C:\Users\your username\Documents\Arma 3\Saved

backup that folder and clear the folder then try.

 

Also dont quote my whole post, just reply, only quote something specific from a post.

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Have to do this in multiple parts

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Part 3

Complete

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  On 1/15/2023 at 6:01 AM, Gunter Severloh said:

Whats the mission your playing as you haven't said anything about what it is?

You create it, or is it a subbed mission?

I made the mission myself.  You start off in a parachute as a downed pilot with just a hand gun.  I have around 800 AI with random locations and you have to make your way through the map.

  On 1/15/2023 at 6:01 AM, Gunter Severloh said:

No mods other then blastcore and JSRS, did you try playing without those?

I also use 3den Enhanced.  Yes I tried with only 3den Enhanced.  Havent tried without it.

 

  On 1/15/2023 at 6:01 AM, Gunter Severloh said:

How are you playing, in the editor, under scenarios, mp lan, dedicated, rented, server your joining?

I mainly play with a friend in MP but this issue has been happening through the editor also.  Im running this on my on PC that I play on.

 

  On 1/15/2023 at 6:01 AM, Gunter Severloh said:

You clear the saves here?   -----> C:\Users\your username\Documents\Arma 3\Saved

backup that folder and clear the folder then try.

Each time I play, I restart the mission.  I dont use the save game.  Fresh start each time.

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I have the same mission on Altis and Malden.  All I do is copy and paste everything to a new map.  I just recently did this and played fine then stopped working.  I did some tests last night on the Malden map and they see me in the chute but once on the ground they dont see me.  I turned setcaptive on and off and no change except when i was captive they dont shoot at me while in the sky.  I then loaded my Altis map and everything worked fine.

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Other then your heading in your description.ext missing max and min number of players, theres really nothing in the rpt

giving any errors as to what may cause the ai to not see you. The only thing i can think of is to play with half the number

of AI or even a fraction of what you have just to test.

    Consider that each AI spawned uses up cpu resources in order for its functions to run, so if your system is being taxed by the

number of ai even if your fps id decent then the ai's function can be changed.

 

Do a test with about a 100 ai or less and see if the issue persists, also consider in a mission less is more keep it simple.

 

See this thread for more information on spotting distances

https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/178798-ai-spot-distance/

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  On 1/14/2023 at 2:33 PM, major-stiffy said:

You can edit the mission by adding setFriend and see if that helps.

I think you may have solved my problem!  

I played my mission and still AI wasnt seeing me. 

Then I added WEST setFriend [EAST, 0];EAST setFriend [WEST, 0]; to my initPlayerLocal.sqf file and played again and AI sees me every time.  I tried loading the mission 3 times and it worked.  Thank you so much!

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  On 1/15/2023 at 3:39 PM, BlackbirdSD said:

I have the same mission on Altis and Malden.  All I do is copy and paste everything to a new map

 

For anyone finding this thread in the future; check your side relationships in the editor after copying mission content between worlds.

Do that before trying the above workaround, especially if you're using editor extensions.

 

It a common thing to miss and will result in exactly the same behaviour as this thread describes.

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  On 1/17/2023 at 11:10 AM, mrcurry said:

 

For anyone finding this thread in the future; check your side relationships in the editor after copying mission content between worlds.

Do that before trying the above workaround, especially if you're using editor extensions.

 

It a common thing to miss and will result in exactly the same behaviour as this thread describes.

Sounds good but the weird thing is it worked for a while then they just stopped seeing me.  I do copy and paste the mission to different maps and move it around quite often.

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  On 1/17/2023 at 11:10 AM, mrcurry said:

 

For anyone finding this thread in the future; check your side relationships in the editor after copying mission content between worlds.

Do that before trying the above workaround, especially if you're using editor extensions.

 

It a common thing to miss and will result in exactly the same behaviour as this thread describes.

How do you check the side relationships?

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