MR.Mapper 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Hi I´m working on a Ka60 with gear down and closed door: with gear up and open door: The Texture is just a picture which is lying on the model, Totmacher will make a high quality texture when i have finished the 3d model Greetings MR.Mapper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vade_101 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Excellent news. looks like a good start too. nice one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.o.R.S.u 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Good to hear that high quality textures are coming, are you going to make the black version also? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MR.Mapper 0 Posted February 10, 2003 thx it will be included in a little mod which members in the clan i´m in and i  are working on (crazy sentence ) but we will make pre-releases at the moment we are not sure which texture we take....perhaps it will give different versions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2stoned2kil- 0 Posted February 10, 2003 yeah man finally an other east helo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johann "onn" Bitsoenn 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Looks great now :] Looks much better than the picture of it I've seen some time ago on the other topic... One issue visible on picture is the angle of main rotor - IMO it should be pulled to horisontal, I DO know that choppers move by moving a rotor surface, but.. BIS does not, and in OFP choppers move by pulling nose down.... with rotor pararell to deck surface :] If textures will be better than current one (wich look... very nice) they will be great :] Few questions... will there be an armed versions? I do not know a lot about Ka-26 as it is quite new construction, I will know more in few hours, probably searching over net - if you need anything like parameters, ammo-schemes - just ask, I'll post what I've found... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Very nice! can't wait for it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MR.Mapper 0 Posted February 10, 2003 @Johann "onn" Bitsoenn thx,if i need something,i´ll tell you this is an armed version perhaps i will make another version with an pk in cargoroom:) P.S.:the picture you saw in another topic wasn´t the ka60 i´ve made Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Will you make the KA-62 variant (civilian version) ? And do you need a beta tester ? i'd be glad to beta test it for you just askin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
granQ 293 Posted February 10, 2003 what happen with the mi8 or what is was.. the polish mod or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted February 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GranQ @ Feb. 10 2003,17:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what happen with the mi8 or what is was.. the polish mod or something?<span id='postcolor'> it's from airwolf he still working on it, why ask here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted February 10, 2003 hes working on the Mi-2, we already have an Mi-8 ingame, its just named by its export version the Mi-17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted February 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Eviscerator @ Feb. 10 2003,18:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hes working on the Mi-2, we already have an Mi-8 ingame, its just named by its export version the Mi-17<span id='postcolor'> actually, not, the Mi-8 is a bit different, e.g. back rotor is on the other side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted February 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Soul_Assassin @ Feb. 10 2003,18:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Eviscerator @ Feb. 10 2003,18:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hes working on the Mi-2, we already have an Mi-8 ingame, its just named by its export version the Mi-17<span id='postcolor'> actually, not, the Mi-8 is a bit different, e.g. back rotor is on the other side.<span id='postcolor'> actually no, there are many versions of the Mi-8, just as with most military helicopters, the Mi-8MT/MTV/MTB have the tail rotors on the other sides and are also called the Mi-17 in export versions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Yes! Looking good. Please make a black one and one with a PK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johann "onn" Bitsoenn 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Mi-2 has already been made some time ago. Now author adds noew versions afaik. Mi-2 unfortunately was told not to be released until whole LWP mod (polish army mod) will be complete. And LWP mod almoust died a moth ago, now it has been resurected, but still it seems to take ages till finish... but... because of this fact Mi-2 author told he will think about releasing it earlier... Ingame Mi-17 is not another name of Mi-8, it is just a name of Mi-8MT (Modificyrowannyj, Transportnyj - Modificated, Transport). In the development stadium, it was named Mi-18, it's first prototipe was build in the middle 70's (1976 as I remember), which was based on Mi-8 with Mi-14's engine. It was used in the beginning as rescue-helicopter. Army did not used name Mi-18 and named it Mi-8MT, however works on Mi-18 has been continued with an effect of chopper with longer chasis. At 81' air show in Paris Mi-8MT was to be showed, and name Mi-18 name couldn't be used because it was given to another project (as I written before), russian named this chopper Mi-17 for export purposes. There is a big confusion about these names. Behind all this things, hardly understable from outside, there are personal - or corporal - ambitions (i.E. this is cause of serpent roads of the name "Su-34" which was firstly given to Su-25T, and then moved to Su-27IB). Sometimes two identical choppers have diffrent names because i.E. one has been made in Kazan, and another in Ulan-Ude :] In addition, there are diffrent names for export, diffrent for inside market, there are also development names, which are also being given by few diffrent systems :]] In NATO code all transport versions with TW3-117 engine (as in base Mi-8MT) are called Hip-H Ordered list: names in bracket "()" are names for export. engine TW3-117MT: ~ Mi-8MT (Mi-17) from Kazan ~ (Mi-17P) - passanger 'luxury' version ~ (Mi-17P) name is also used for export version of Electronic War chopper as says Kazan info... engine TW3-117WM ~ Mi-8MTW from Kazan ~ Mi-8MTW-1 (Mi-17-1W)- civil wersion of previus one, produced in Kazan too ~ Mi-8AMT (Mi-171) is Mi-08MTW-1 produced in Ulan-Ude (there is also Mi-171B) ~ Mi-08MTW-2 (Mi-17-1W, same as civilian Mi-8MTW-1)- military desant version form Kazan ~ (Mi-17-1WA) - flying ambulance ~ Mi-17MTW-3 (Mi-172) - civilian/military from Kazan, exclusively for India ~ Mi-8MA Arktyka - Mi-172 development for polar zones ~ Mi-8MB Bissiektr - rescue version, used in Afghanistan ~ Mi-8MD - rescue ~ Mi-8MTPS - rescue ~ (Mi-17M) - both civilian and military (in Dubai 1993 there was version with left half civilian and right half military , rear does has been rebuild to be more simillar to Mi-26's bay doors Modernised Mi-17 was to be build in South Korea on licence by Daewoo Heavy Industries under name of MK-30, I do not have any further info about it... ~ Mi-17Z-2 (Zastabva) is Chechoslovakian version with four big cylinders hanged on the sides Mi-17 showed in game seems to me to be Mi-8MTW-2 Huh, I think that is all :] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Hey plz stay on topic and keep talking about the Ka-60 kasatka and not the mi-8... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Totmacher 0 Posted February 10, 2003 @Johann "onn" Bitsoenn,.. we are not the makers of it. We do not need any infos on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johann "onn" Bitsoenn 0 Posted February 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Totmacher @ Feb. 10 2003,21:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">@Johann "onn" Bitsoenn,.. we are not the makers of it. We do not need any infos on that. <span id='postcolor'> I wanted just to clear information wich you were arguing about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewb99 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Looks like we were working from the same referance pic: EDIT: Picture was changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johann "onn" Bitsoenn 0 Posted February 10, 2003 That is the picture I saw before :] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted February 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Johann "onn" Bitsoenn @ Feb. 10 2003,19:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><snip><span id='postcolor'> isnt that basically what i said? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaztheducky 0 Posted February 10, 2003 they are both good but i think drewbs is better. but a message to both of you...(pardon my french)please dont fuck it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johann "onn" Bitsoenn 0 Posted February 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Eviscerator @ Feb. 10 2003,22:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Johann "onn" Bitsoenn @ Feb. 10 2003,19:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><snip><span id='postcolor'> isnt that basically what i said?<span id='postcolor'> Nope. You have told that Mi-17 is an export name of Mi-8 wich is not truth. Mi-17 is an export name only for Mi-8M and some of it's modifications, which makes only a part of whole Mi-8 family :] I know that maybe.. I've written too much and nobody bothers to read... :] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted February 11, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Johann "onn" Bitsoenn @ Feb. 11 2003,00:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Eviscerator @ Feb. 10 2003,22:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Johann "onn" Bitsoenn @ Feb. 10 2003,19:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><snip><span id='postcolor'> isnt that basically what i said?<span id='postcolor'> Nope. You have told that Mi-17 is an export name of Mi-8 wich is not truth. Mi-17 is an export name only for Mi-8M and some of it's modifications, which makes only a part of whole Mi-8 family :] I know that maybe.. I've written too much and nobody bothers to read... :]<span id='postcolor'> well, i did say 'an' Mi-8, not 'the' Mi-8, as i was referring to the Mi-8MT, and then in my second post i said: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">actually no, there are many versions of the Mi-8, just as with most military helicopters, the Mi-8MT/MTV/MTB have the tail rotors on the other sides and are also called the Mi-17 in export versions. <span id='postcolor'> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites