~Too Tall~ 0 Posted February 4, 2003 a great plane that will be used witht he nam pack on SES server in march Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted February 4, 2003 A-4's can carry a helluva load of bombs compared to its size! This picture is NOT altered in any way! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted February 4, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wonder @ Feb. 04 2003,10:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A-4's can carry a helluva load of bombs compared to its size! <span id='postcolor'> Ah...ok I guess the bomb load is realistic then... I just assumed it wasn't because someone else claimed it wasn't... my bad. The more bombs the better!!!! Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted February 4, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Colonel_Klink @ Feb. 04 2003,06:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> target box showed a diamond when the bomb release point was reached.<span id='postcolor'> Will be in the next fix. [Edit mode] Have now added the target box and tested OK (Translated: I actually destroyed a BMP )[/end edit mode]<span id='postcolor'> Awesome! You Da Man!!!!! Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Too Tall~ 0 Posted February 4, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Miles Teg @ Feb. 04 2003,08:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wonder @ Feb. 04 2003,106)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A-4's can carry a helluva load of bombs compared to its size! <span id='postcolor'> Ah...ok I guess the bomb load is realistic then... I just assumed it wasn't because someone else claimed it wasn't... my bad. Â The more bombs the better!!!! Â Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD><span id='postcolor'> it is but it isnt. its "unrealistic" on that wing pylon that all. the external pylon cannot cary that much but the middle and centerline can so its realistic as far as numbers are concerned, but the layout is unrealistic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted February 5, 2003 A-4's maximum allowed external stores loads: Centerline: 3500lbs Inboard underwing pylons:2200lbs Outboard underwing pylons: 1000lbs Mk81=250lbs ~125Kg Mk82=500lbs ~250Kg Mk83=1000lbs ~500Kg Mk84=2000lbs ~1t You do the maths, and dont forget the racks aren't weightless either! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colonel_klink 0 Posted February 5, 2003 Ok the loadouts on the next version are as accurate as the inforamtion I have. Rest assured there will only be two bombs on the outer wing pylons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted February 5, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Colonel_Klink @ Feb. 05 2003,08:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok the loadouts on the next version are as accurate as the inforamtion I have. Rest assured there will only be two bombs on the outer wing pylons.<span id='postcolor'> You mean 2 bombs on one outer wing pylon or did you mean both pylons total 2 bombs? 2x500lbs=1000lbs I don't think the outer wing pylons are qulified to mount racks. You see, 2 Mk82s would alone total 1000lbs, so if you add the rack you'd exceed the maximum allowed load limit. The outer wing pylon can carry either a single Mk82 or 83. Personally i'd prefer a mixture of bombs and rockets on the ground attack version. In other words, 12 Mk82s total + 38 FFARs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colonel_klink 0 Posted February 5, 2003 Why not add another ground attack version? Armed with the m82s and ffars? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Knight 0 Posted February 5, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Colonel_Klink @ Feb. 05 2003,09:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why not add another ground attack version? Armed with the m82s and ffars? <span id='postcolor'> y not!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted February 5, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Colonel_Klink @ Feb. 05 2003,09:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why not add another ground attack version? Armed with the m82s and ffars? <span id='postcolor'> Yes, why not? What about incorporating the Napalm bomb Jacobaby is working on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it also goes really too fast. Faster than the tornado and/or f-15.<span id='postcolor'> In this case, I feel you should side with playability over realism. Â Most of the air addons top out at about 1000, with the mig-19 being the fastest, but the A4 with or w/out afterburner should still be slower. Â I mean, a ground attack plane loaded with 3000lbs of ordnance should not be able to outrun a FA/18... unless of course I'm grievously incorrect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rufusmac @ Feb. 06 2003,06:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it also goes really too fast. Faster than the tornado and/or f-15.<span id='postcolor'> In this case, I feel you should side with playability over realism. Â Most of the air addons top out at about 1000, with the mig-19 being the fastest, but the A4 with or w/out afterburner should still be slower. Â I mean, a ground attack plane loaded with 3000lbs of ordnance should not be able to outrun a FA/18... unless of course I'm grievously incorrect. <span id='postcolor'> There is a Mig-19 addon? Care to tell us where the URL for that is? Also wasn't someone working on a Mig-21 addon??? I remember seeing a version that looked almost finished. Whatever happened to it??? Anyone know? Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Too Tall~ 0 Posted February 6, 2003 you mean this one? http://neverland.homelinux.com/ofp-nam/index.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (~Too Tall~ @ Feb. 06 2003,16:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://neverland.homelinux.com/ofp-nam/bilder/mig216.jpg http://neverland.homelinux.com/ofp-nam/bilder/mig214.jpg http://neverland.homelinux.com/ofp-nam/bilder/mig212.jpg you mean this one? http://neverland.homelinux.com/ofp-nam/index.php<span id='postcolor'> Ah that's the Mig-21...although I like his old desert textures better. I hope he releases it soon. But still no Mig-19. I have never seen pictures of a Mig-19 addon anywhere. Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Too Tall~ 0 Posted February 6, 2003 i know i havnt seen a mig 19 either i was just showing u the mig 21 shots u were talkin bout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted February 9, 2003 *bump* So what's the status on the updated A-4? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 9, 2003 I think its clear i meant mig-29, but typed the wrong number... your sarcasm was much appreciated though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Too Tall~ 0 Posted February 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rufusmac @ Feb. 09 2003,16:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think its clear i meant mig-29, but typed the wrong number... your sarcasm was much appreciated though  <span id='postcolor'> you typed the wrong number? i thought u actuly ment u saw someone making a mig 19 (they were real) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
