bn880 5 Posted June 24, 2004 I expected as much... that's all I'm going to say. (comment on entire handling of incident) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted June 24, 2004 Any official reactions from Canada yet ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted June 24, 2004 yeah: "We are sorry we got in the way of your bombs, Sincerely yours, Canada" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputnik monroe 102 Posted June 25, 2004 I'm sure Michael Moore can find a way to "prove" it was intentional and that the bombing was ordered by Evil George himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted June 25, 2004 I'm sure Michael Moore can find a way to "prove" it was intentional and that the bombing was ordered by Evil George himself. What the hell are you talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinef 2 Posted July 1, 2004 It's just pro American bollocks. Man those US pilots need to get their attitudes sorted out. US pilot attitude - We are the fucking best. Fighting for righteousness and noone can stop us. If anyone shoots me he has trouble coming. I SO LOVE BLOWING UP RAGHEAD SCUM! YEEEHAA!!! RAF pilot attitude - I am but a small piece in a extensive and very intricate campaign, the best way for me to remain safe while sitting on this aiframe loaded with fuel and ordance is not to rambo it, I will attack only in the most neccessary situations or when ordered to. I don't really want to be here, I am trained for it and will do it but overall I would prefer to be watching telly with my girlfriend. Ok, so the US pilot was an exaggeration for most pilots but I know lot's of RAF pilots who do combatant roles and this is pretty much how they think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quicksand 0 Posted July 1, 2004 Quote[/b] ]US pilot attitude - We are the fucking best. Fighting for righteousness and noone can stop us. If anyone shoots me he has trouble coming. I SO LOVE BLOWING UP RAGHEAD SCUM! YEEEHAA!!! I think you really got facts mixed up as this sound more like children posting on the internet pretending to have anything to do with the military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted July 1, 2004 Quote[/b] ]US pilot attitude - We are the fucking best. Fighting for righteousness and noone can stop us. If anyone shoots me he has trouble coming. I SO LOVE BLOWING UP RAGHEAD SCUM! YEEEHAA!!! I think you really got facts mixed up as this sound more like children posting on the internet pretending to have anything to do with the military. Yes, that doesn't sound like any U.S pilot I've ever heard about... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Madus_Maximus 0 Posted July 1, 2004 Ye, they dont like shooting up "Raghead Scum" they go for friendly convoy's instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veovis 0 Posted July 1, 2004 Quote[/b] ]US pilot attitude - We are the fucking best. Fighting for righteousness and noone can stop us. If anyone shoots me he has trouble coming. I SO LOVE BLOWING UP RAGHEAD SCUM! YEEEHAA!!!RAF pilot attitude - I am but a small piece in a extensive and very intricate campaign, the best way for me to remain safe while sitting on this aiframe loaded with fuel and ordance is not to rambo it, I will attack only in the most neccessary situations or when ordered to. I don't really want to be here, I am trained for it and will do it but overall I would prefer to be watching telly with my girlfriend. You have got to be kidding me. Jinef, do you know any US Pilots? I would guess that you do not. All pilots have a superiority complex; I doubt you would find such a candyass in the RAF. I have never seen a constructive post out of you. Lately they have all been about how much joy Americans get out of killing people. Your biased, ridiculous opinions do nothing except fan flames. Ugh...I'm going to need a lot more glass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinef 2 Posted July 1, 2004 Well i've met a few US Airforce pilots. We were once being shown an MH-53 or something and they were all bragging about it's avionics and stuff. My mate looked around the cargo bay and said - "Well it's not very big in here guys, how do you fit a herc in here then?" The US loadmaster almost jumped him I was pissing myself though. Plus we have a lot of F15 pilots do cross training with us, they display exactly that superior attitude, they have better kit, get paid more, have more time off, get beautiful girlfriends and are basically way out of our league. Yet their idea of flying is at 30,000 feet with 70km visibility over Nevada, not at 150 feet through the valleys of Wales in 2 kms visibility. Also if you have ever flown in a theatre of operations with US pilots the radio chatter is excessive. I have a friend who was recently flying ground attack in Iraq, he does not have a high opinion of how professional US Pilots are. I do accept of course there are many different units, age and personalities of pilots. National guard pilots are not going to be as professional as USAF pilots. I have met some marine pilots and they are very professional, they have a much greater understanding of the battlefield and of ground forces. Basically I read some previous post in this thread and was annoyed that the pilot who had just bombed friendlies not showing an excessive perceived threat out of agression, without checking ID on radio. I am a bit late in this discussion but being on the other side I am expressing my opinion. I think the US pilots need more training in concepts of the overall situation, and most certainly not given drugs to maintain hours, flying is something where you need to be in the right frame of mind, being a zombie kept going artifically is stupid. This post is unstructured but i'm in a hurry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skewballzz 0 Posted July 1, 2004 accidents happen, and I am in no position to determine the fate of the pilot without all the the facts. Heresay is not admissable in court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Madus_Maximus 0 Posted July 1, 2004 True, only if you check statistics (and please dont use the argument of being in greater numbers, on a ratio they're still shockingly bad) the USAF has a very bad history of friendly fire. In the last conflict, our 3rd lost Warrior APC in a combat zone was lost to an A-10 attack, as were the other 2 in Kosovo! The latter were in the usual UN colours (white/light grey with big black writing on the side saying "UN") and the one in Iraq was in a convoy of several armoured vehicles and trucks, most of which were flying the Union Jack, and despite countless radio messages telling him to disengage he still fired a 2nd salvo which resulted in the loss of 4 crew members and an armoured vehicle. The APC can be replaced, but try and explain the "professionalism" of USAF pilots to the famalies of those who've lost loved ones because of their quick to shoot attitude, what makes it worse is they were friendlies! Also in Iraq, there was a convoy of US Marines escorting jounoulists (mainly from the BBC) which came under fire from a US F-18. Several Iraqi's (who were helping the Marines) were killed and injured, some Marines were injured and the jounalists were in a pretty bad state too, one of the BBC's camera men was killed. I'll leave with a nice quote from the BBC production manager who was in the convoy at the time. "Another f****** own goal for the yanks!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted July 1, 2004 I'm sure Michael Moore can find a way to "prove" it was intentional and that the bombing was ordered by Evil George himself. What the hell are you talking about? No reply to that one. In general though, I would hope for some people to take responsibility for this and revise their rules of engagement and training etc. It is not all about MR. Schmidt, I think we all realize that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
