The Iraq Thread

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Mar. 18 2003,15:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL! How stupid. Now we can't attempt to save our own skins because the UN didn't say so. <span id='postcolor'>

Why stupid ? Are you attacking Iraq or is Iraq attacking Israel ?<span id='postcolor'>

Gossip has it that we're a potential target, as we were 12 years ago. Or don't you know?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You only need to save the skins of israels forces in Iraq who are attacking.<span id='postcolor'>

Speaking of gossip, that's what this report of the presence of any Israeli there sounds like.

[MP Studio 0]

I think the war will start in the next 40 hours. I dont know if iraq has missiles which can reach Israel, but i dont think so. But if Israel sends troops against iraq, they must be prepared to loose soldiers. But i hope saddam goes to saudi arabia... but he wont do it... I hope the war ends quickly and with a minimum of civil deaths

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Mar. 18 2003,15:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Are you attacking Iraq or is Iraq attacking Israel ?<span id='postcolor'><span id='postcolor'>

The article says:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Sayeret Matkal (Israel’s commando force) are also allegedly executing covert reconnaissance operations inside the Western Iraqi desert, looking for Saddam's Scuds.<span id='postcolor'>

I suppose you're right. If there are any Sayeret Matkal folks there and they find the scuds, they should call Hans Blix & Co. and ask them to come back before the sand dunes shift again.

[Balschoiw 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Speaking of gossip, that's what this report of the presence of any Israeli there sounds like.

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Do you really think so ?!?

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Mar. 18 2003,15:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Speaking of gossip, that's what this report of the presence of any Israeli there sounds like.

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Do you really think so ?!?<span id='postcolor'>

My opinion is either they're there or there not. The article doesn't substantiate anything any more than when I first saw something similar on Debka a while ago already.

Who knows?!

[Balschoiw 0]

I think it makes a big difference if they are there.

Why?

If they are there Israel is in state of war with Iraq.

If they are not there Israel is not in state of war with Iraq.

Easy.

Should make a big difference for your country, or not ?

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Mar. 18 2003,15:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think it makes a big difference if they are there.

Why?

If they are there Israel is in state of war with Iraq.

If they are not there Israel is not in state of war with Iraq.

Easy.

Should make a big difference for your country, or not ?<span id='postcolor'>

I think it makes a bigger difference that, if there are scuds there, they are an imminent danger to everyone in the region and the UN and everyone else should thank their stars if such are found.

We've had 39 of them so far. How many have you enjoyed?

Oh - and that wasn't a state of war, of course. And non-fired Iraqi scuds have some statute of limitations if they're not fired within a few years of there being hidden.

Once again, this could all be war fiction.

[Jinef 2]

Well i just got in - bloody hell 4 pages to read!

I am pretty sure we will be going in to Iraq, if however we get out of it somehow then i'm sure we will still offer assistance just on a low profle level.

[theavonlady 2]

Another greedy American benefit from this war.

[Longinius 1]

If it turns out to a real, actual war where the US gets casualties. How much damage do you think they are willing to take before they pull out?

[theavonlady 2]

First casualty of the war: AT&T.

[WhoCares 0]

I don't doubt that the USA will win this war.

Or better, they will declare victory at a certain state. As they did in Afghanistan. Who cares, that there is only one or two supposed to be somewhat safe zones in Afghanistan and the rest is under the control of various warlords. The only different to the soviet occupation and now is, that the invading forces leave the warlords alone and the warlords don't care about Kabul and run their own businesses.

I guess the same will happen in Iraq. It is not that they will be seen as the liberators by many people, but more as invaders. Due to the overwhelming strength there will be little open opposition but more attacks of individuals or small groups. But the US-controlled government will control the big business and that's everything that counts...

[Necromancer- 0]

As you see:

West = Evil

East = Good

<span id='ME'><center>Necromancer- Giggles</center></span>

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Necromancer- @ Mar. 17 2003,17:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As you see:

West = Evil

East = Good

<span id='ME'><center>Necromancer- Giggles</center></span><span id='postcolor'>

Surprise surprise

[MP Studio 0]

lol

I dont think so... imagine how many dictatorships exist in the east! And how many exist in the west? I dont think there is any - ok some countries might have a bit crazy politians but they dont have dictators...

[KingBeast 0]

Hmm strangely im actually beginning to feel sorry for old mr Blair, as it is he gets a lot of stick for being "Bush's lapdog" and such, but who do we have to replace him? His popularity has really been slammed by this whole Iraq thing, but I certainly wouldnt want to see him resign. He hasnt been such a bad PM in my opinion.

War is inevitable now, so I will be thinking of and offering moral support to any of those that will be taking part. Why? Because at the end of the day, the soldiers are doing their jobs, whether or not for they are fighting for the right reasons isnt really their decision.

And i dont just mean the Americans and Brits, I support even the Iraqi soldiers. At the moment no one likes Tony Blair, but if someone invaded Britain claiming to get rid of our bad leader, I know that I wouldnt just sit back and let it happen!

[MP Studio 0]

And if during the war biological and/or chemical weapons are detected i am very exited on the reaction of our government (germany)...

[KingBeast 0]

Ech shitty luck that British troops will be the ones to attack Basra. Just hope that 'Chemical Ali' doesnt have any nasty surprises for us

[brgnorway 0]

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmm strangely im actually beginning to feel sorry for old mr Blair, as it is he gets a lot of stick for being "Bush's lapdog" and such, but who do we have to replace him?<span id='postcolor'>

Well, there's always the "garden gnome" - and he was sacked because of being too "independent" when he was foreign secretary. I don't know, but he might have cut out a nice future career and for himself now.

Oh, one more thing - this might cause the public to forgive him - not for being anybodys lapdog (he never was), but forgivness for the ones actually sitting on his lap, hehe.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">He hasnt been such a bad PM in my opinion.

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.....no I guess he hasn't been that bad - except for his rabid "ban on hunting-campaign" . That's just so stupid but I guess it doesn't belong to this thread.

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KingBeast @ Mar. 18 2003,19:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ech shitty luck that British troops will be the ones to attack Basra. Just hope that 'Chemical Ali' doesnt have any nasty surprises for us <span id='postcolor'>

see . the yanks get you some of most of the shittiest jobs to do

but , it's not that funny anyway ...... people will die , no matter what side they're fighting for

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MP Studio @ Mar. 17 2003,19:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol  

I dont think so... imagine how many dictatorships exist in the east! And how many exist in the west? I dont think there is any - ok some countries might have a bit crazy politians but they dont have dictators...  <span id='postcolor'>

The whole world is full of dictators if you ask me... some even worse than Saddam. Sad enough, Bush only sees the dictators that he wants to see.

[WhoCares 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MP Studio @ Mar. 18 2003,19:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And if during the war biological and/or chemical weapons are detected i am very exited on the reaction of our government (germany)...  <span id='postcolor'>

Nobody knows whether the Inspectors wouldn't have found it when they got some more month as requested... And nobody knows, whether it is not just fake evidence, to post-justify the campaign. You know, thruth is the first thing to die in a war

Kingbeast is right - it will be not to easy for the british soldiers not knowing about the backing at home, if the Blairs government would break apart.

What surprised me yesterday was an interview with some american people on TV. They were all a kind of happy that thing get started now, as they felt really threated by Saddam.

This is really surprising as even Avon stated, that she is today not as scared as she was in GW1...

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WhoCares @ Mar. 17 2003,20:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What surprised me yesterday was an interview with some american people on TV. They were all a kind of happy that thing get started now, as they felt really threated by Saddam.<span id='postcolor'>

Not hard to believe when you see how hard the media makes it look like Saddam is already aiming all his weapons at America.

But remember! I'm sure god will keep blessing America during this war!

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WhoCares @ Mar. 18 2003,20:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is really surprising as even Avon stated, that she is today not as scared as she was in GW1...<span id='postcolor'>

The main worry seems to be the concern of terrorist attacks in heaven knows what form. That concern is true in the US, too, looking at today's news.

[brgnorway 0]

The labourmovement is .......er.......moving:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Special report: politics and Iraq

1.45pm update

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Blair hit by further resignations

· Home Office minister John Denham

· Health minister Lord Hunt

· PPS to Patricia Hewitt, Anne Campbell

Who else is on resignation watch?

Staff and agencies

Tuesday March 18, 2003

John Denham, former Home Office minister. Photo: PA.

Tony Blair was today hit by a series of ministerial resignations over his Iraq policy.

Junior health minister Lord Hunt was this morning followed out of the government by the middle-ranking home office minister, John Denham.

It later emerged that Anne Campbell, the Labour MP for Cambridge, had also resigned from her role as parliamentary private secretary to the trade and industry secretary, Patricia Hewitt.

Their decision to quit the government over its support of military action against Iraq without UN authorisation follows Robin Cook's resignation yesterday as leader of the House of Commons.

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http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,916563,00.html