Mootaz25kh 19 Posted September 1, 2016 Hello I'm playing Arma 3 since 2014 and i played many other games to me Arma 3 is the best but sadly it lack lot of realisim 1st of Soldier Movements like climbing and jumping 2 Vehicle damage is unreal for example when MRAPS got hit the IED in real life the vehicle don't go boom with flame but just got dameged and some of the soldiers die not all like in arma for example from turkey PKK planted and exploded more than 300kg explosive to road and targeted Kirpi MRAP !Kirpi took serious damage and broken into two pieces while crew compartment remains one block ! No any single soldier died, but wounded why in arma vehicles go boom in flame 3 Helicopter Crashs why just when they touch the ground go in flame directly that is unrealistic and of course they are factore to surviving crash like speed altitued and cause of crashing like if mechanical or missile or pilot failure .... 4 Tank damage why no cook off no flying turrets https://youtu.be/z3AJfTBig0E and many other things need to be improved for more realisim and if any other think if somthing to be improved share it 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mootaz25kh 19 Posted September 2, 2016 no one reply Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanya 97 Posted September 2, 2016 It's just a video game. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich_R 1087 Posted September 2, 2016 There are a lot of variables in what you're stating. If we're going to get technical, the amount of damage to any vehicle and those riding it in take from a IED, humvees included, depends on the size of the IED itself, how well armored the vehicle is and where the vehicle is over the explosion.These are a lot of variables that make no two explosions the same. All this aside, while I'm not a modder, I would think the modifications to a vehicles model to allow for a different damage points to replicate what you're looking for as well as the CPU efforts to track and implement said damage points seems to be a frame killer. If you're having issues with helicopters, I can see the frustrations with that. There were two qualified pilots in the last group I was with who often noted Arma helos couldn't take the roughness they would use in flying the real life counterparts, taking damage too easily. But my next sentence goes to what we would all say. This is a game that has to work over a range of PC's. Its not meant to be a real life simulation. Both of these will limit whats implemented and certainly should be considered when setting expectations. If you know of a sandbox military simulation PC title BI and modders could look to as inspiration to what you want in a game, that would help everyone see what you're trying to say. If there isn't a title that does what you're looking for, there's probably a good reason why. As the person posted above, it is just a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angel24marin 34 Posted September 3, 2016 Explosion+flames is a way to say that this vehicle is totally incapacitated. May could be improved with smoke effects when motor is damaged, or fire without explosion if the fuel tank get enought damage, that could implement a Fire Protection System. About helicopter Advanced Flight model allow to take harder landings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mootaz25kh 19 Posted September 3, 2016 about Vehicle IED damage yeah that i think the hardest work about the tank cook off i got the idea from WOT this a short video how it look https://youtu.be/28E3nPL7DOs so it's not impossible to implement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
six_ten 208 Posted September 3, 2016 about Vehicle IED damage yeah that i think the hardest work about the tank cook off i got the idea from WOT this a short video how it look https://youtu.be/28E3nPL7DOs so it's not impossible to implement Good, so we all can look forward to your mod making that possible. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lightspeed_aust 681 Posted September 3, 2016 Seriously mate, you claim that Arma lacks 'a lot of realism' because it doesn't destroy the vehicles the way you would like? Then you pull out a World of Tanks video as something you'd like? Let's think about all of the things the Arma devs have to develop....everything.............................. and then think about what the WoT devs have to develop....tanks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
serjames 357 Posted September 3, 2016 Most of your points are already managed in ACE & Enhanced Mvement etc. Try modding the game and see how much it improves :-) good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fn_Quiksilver 1636 Posted September 4, 2016 realism is so last decade excitement and hype are more important 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon01 902 Posted September 4, 2016 Yes, vehicle damage needs work, but some of this is fixed by mods. Also, you don't get a "flying turret" with modern tanks anymore (though in the RHS mods, it happens with older Soviet tanks). For example, in an M1 Abrams, damage from ammo cookoff is reduced by blowout panels. In theory, it can have an ammo explosion and still have the crew survive. World of Tanks is a WWII game, so it's a pretty bad example for things ArmA-related, seeing as A3 is set in the future. Don't expect a T-100 to have much to do with a T-34 in terms of the damage model. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MANTIA 55 Posted September 5, 2016 Have you ever tried climbing or jumping in full kit? Have fun! And MRAPs are great against IEDs but I have seen them go boom as well. Either way its a video game, no recreating will be exactly like real life. Your gunna find things that don't match up. You want stepping on a rock and turning an ankle to be on the game? Forcing you to slow down the rest of your team for the night? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mootaz25kh 19 Posted September 5, 2016 Have you ever tried climbing or jumping in full kit? Have fun! And MRAPs are great against IEDs but I have seen them go boom as well. Either way its a video game, no recreating will be exactly like real life. Your gunna find things that don't match up. You want stepping on a rock and turning an ankle to be on the game? Forcing you to slow down the rest of your team for the night? lol I served in Tunisian army so i know it's hard ... ( as conscript infantryman ) it depends in the size of the IED that hit the mrap and yeah it's video game and i love it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Degman 73 Posted September 6, 2016 Survivors of IED attack are incapable to fight due to wounds and what not. This is manifested in the game as death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mootaz25kh 19 Posted September 6, 2016 Survivors of IED attack are incapable to fight due to wounds and what not. This is manifested in the game as death. i know story confured by eye witness here in tunisia last week a army mrap embushed using ieds the survivors fight off the terrorist so it depend on the wound bu in game yeah manifested as death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lugiahua 26 Posted September 6, 2016 You know...there is VBS3 and Steelbeast Pro, if you need hyper realism that's above and beyond video game industry... Or we can just settle with ACE3 and RHS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R0adki11 3949 Posted September 6, 2016 Closing - we have had these sort of threads before. Please search before creating duplicate threads. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites