Erex 0 Posted November 7, 2002 Come on guys, found for me something really hard (im sick so im not at work => lot of time to read books about airplanes etc etc :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolips71 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Erex @ Nov. 07 2002,20:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Nov. 07 2002,20:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nolips71 @ Nov. 07 2002,17:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Nov. 07 2002,14:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh hell yes  !! I didnt see those civillians. No then it realy cant be a ME-109. Or maybe those are british midgets standing next to it  Still, the HE had 2 motors. But I dont see them. Where are they gone?  Look here for comparison But maybe the full cockpit burned away together with the two motors!<span id='postcolor'> thats a spannish heinkel 110 (dunno if its spelt right) with rolls royce engines<span id='postcolor'> why spannish? And why Rolls Royce? Dont get it?  <span id='postcolor'> different motors (same with Bf-109) spanish do use Germany planes but with RR enignes and with Hispano Suiza cannons etc :-)<span id='postcolor'> the words from erex are true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadico 1 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">After WWII? Realy? That ugly thing survived? WHy didnt they use "flying fortress"?<span id='postcolor'> As far as i know the last Bf-109's in the spanish airforce were retired in 1969 (spanish bf-109's and he-111's were used in the film "The Battle of Britain"). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolips71 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ Nov. 07 2002,23:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">After WWII? Realy? That ugly thing survived? WHy didnt they use "flying fortress"?<span id='postcolor'> As far as i know the last Bf-109's in the spanish airforce were retired in 1969 (spanish bf-109's and he-111's were used in the film "The Battle of Britain").<span id='postcolor'> i did notice oh and erex no cheating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadico 1 Posted November 7, 2002 Couldn't be easier, Sukhoi S-37 Berkut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted November 7, 2002 Oh this is actually 2 planes that fly into the opposite directions but the camera caught them when they met in the air. Flying from the right to the left is a Mirage and flying from the right to the left is a Tornado! Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ Nov. 08 2002,00:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Couldn't be easier, Sukhoi S-37 Berkut <span id='postcolor'> Actually now it's been re-designated. It is the Su-47 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadico 1 Posted November 7, 2002 Su-47? Why did they change the designation? The Russian Air Force pretends to buy some? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ Nov. 08 2002,00:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Su-47? Why did they change the designation? The Russian Air Force pretends to buy some? Â <span id='postcolor'> Maybe...but AFAIK they still haven't purchased the Su-37...they went with the 35's instead. It probably signifies that it's "finished" and ready to graduate from prototype to operational aircraft. Whether or not the Russian air force will buy some remains to be seen, but they need a low-observable aircraft and this is supposed to use some stealth technology. <span style='color:red'>*edit*</span>Nope...dosen't seem like it will be bought....I've done some searching on the new designation and everywhere it is still listed as a technology testbed for the next generation of fighters. Found this bit though: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In early 2002 Sukhoi was chosen as prime contractor for the planned Russian fifth-generation fighter is called the PAK FA [ Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsyi - Future Air Complex for Tactical Air Forces]. This intermediate class twin-engined fighter will be larger than a MiG-29 and smaller than a Su-27. The new fighter is intended to be about the same size as the US F-35 JSF, with a primary air superiority mission and ground attack and reconnaissance being secondary missions. <span id='postcolor'>http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/pak-fa.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0 Posted November 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Nov. 05 2002,01:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I used to live and breath this stuff   before I found out about girls, of course  <span id='postcolor'> Thats not what ur sister told me on ICQ the other night tex  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted November 8, 2002 Ok a new one Tovarish has been nice enough to agree to not answer this one.Plane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted November 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (edc @ Nov. 08 2002,10:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yakovlev Yak-23<span id='postcolor'> No, but it is a Soviet plane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted November 8, 2002 This one should be fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted November 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Nov. 08 2002,10:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This one should be fun <span id='postcolor'> The closest match I have found so far is the Bell X-5. Am I at least close? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted November 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Nov. 08 2002,03:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The closest match I have found so far is the Bell X-5. Am I at least close?<span id='postcolor'> LOL The Irony is hilarious . In one way you are very close, but not really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted November 8, 2002 Is it even an X plane? I have gone to a website that is totally dedicated to the American X planes, yet the X-5 was the closest match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted November 8, 2002 well.....it's hard to say without giving it away....it was and it wasn't Let me know when you give up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted November 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Nov. 08 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Let me know when you give up <span id='postcolor'> You wont hear me giving up! And If I do, you can all call me Ronald Reagan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted November 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Nov. 08 2002,05:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Nov. 08 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Let me know when you give up <span id='postcolor'> You wont hear me giving up! And If I do, you can all call me Ronald Reagan.<span id='postcolor'> Your perserverence shall earn you a visual hint in the form of another plane . Take a close look at this one: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted November 8, 2002 Looks like a F-14 in Soviet Colours...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted November 8, 2002 If you ever go to Greece, whatever you do - don't be too interested in fighter-planes! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2414787.stm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted November 8, 2002 Yep .....now go back to the "X-5", look at the plane, look at it's markings..... <span style='color:red'>*edit*</span> BTW that F-14 was one of two given to the USSR courtesy of Iran. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted November 8, 2002 Are you saying that its a Russian prototype painted in US markings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted November 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Nov. 08 2002,05:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Are you saying that its a Russian prototype painted in US markings?<span id='postcolor'> Did I say it was a prototype? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites