arotished 10 Posted February 12, 2014 I’m not sure actually! I remember ten years ago when anti-aliasing started appearing in games and back then it meant smooth image and MASSIVE slowdowns. However nowadays there are many different modes of anti-aliasing though and some are better than others. In ARMA3 I can turn FSAA up to x2 or x4 with no slowdown what so ever and not until I turn it to x8 will I start noticing any slowdowns (if I remember correctly). I think everyone should experiment on their own with anti-aliasing. Object distance definitely makes a big difference, view distance less so. Smoke causes massive slowdowns however unfortunately using the lower settings doesn’t make it one bit better. FSAA have almost no effect for me, maybe 4-5 FPS from NONE to X8. Everything comes down to view distance. At 500meters draw/object distance the game runs okey....but you cant play with 500meters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigstone 48 Posted February 13, 2014 Hi fellas just built this setup and I was wondering if it will run Arma 2 and Arma 3? NEW CASES - COOLERMASTER K350 Black Case With 12CM Fan 850W PSU - X-VIPER 80+ BRONZE & 14CM Quiet Fan/Modular INTEL HASWELL CPU - Intel Core i5 4670K - 4 Cores Overclocked @ 4.4Ghz + 6MB CACHE INTEL HASWELL MOTHERBOARD - ASUS Z87-PRO - USB2.0, USB3.0, SATA6 + XFIRE/SLI + WIFI CPU COOLING - CORSAIR CWCH60 WATER COOLER - NO NEED TO REFILL RAM - 8GB DDR3 1866Mhz - PATRIOT VIPER V3 RED Performance/Gaming RAM MASTER HARD DRIVE - 1TB (1000GB) SATA3 - 6Gb/s, 7200 RPM & 32MB Cache GRAPHICS CARD (PCI-E) - nVIDIA GeForce GTX770 2GB PCI-E 3.0 Ready SOFTWARE - WINDOWS 7 Premium - 64 Bit Inc DVD/Licence General UseCOOLING - Pack Of 2 x Case Fans Silent & Powerful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arotished 10 Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Hi fellas just built this setup and I was wondering if it will run Arma 2 and Arma 3?NEW CASES - COOLERMASTER K350 Black Case With 12CM Fan 850W PSU - X-VIPER 80+ BRONZE & 14CM Quiet Fan/Modular INTEL HASWELL CPU - Intel Core i5 4670K - 4 Cores Overclocked @ 4.4Ghz + 6MB CACHE INTEL HASWELL MOTHERBOARD - ASUS Z87-PRO - USB2.0, USB3.0, SATA6 + XFIRE/SLI + WIFI CPU COOLING - CORSAIR CWCH60 WATER COOLER - NO NEED TO REFILL RAM - 8GB DDR3 1866Mhz - PATRIOT VIPER V3 RED Performance/Gaming RAM MASTER HARD DRIVE - 1TB (1000GB) SATA3 - 6Gb/s, 7200 RPM & 32MB Cache GRAPHICS CARD (PCI-E) - nVIDIA GeForce GTX770 2GB PCI-E 3.0 Ready SOFTWARE - WINDOWS 7 Premium - 64 Bit Inc DVD/Licence General UseCOOLING - Pack Of 2 x Case Fans Silent & Powerful No! But many people will say yes since they think running a game around 30FPS is just fine.... Edited February 13, 2014 by arotished Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pr0ph3tswe 1 Posted February 14, 2014 No! But many people will say yes since they think running a game around 30FPS is just fine.... if you get 30 fps with that pc in arma 3 you're doing something wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrIxXuS 10 Posted February 14, 2014 I'm still running this on my i7920 and it's doing a pretty good job but I do run an Ssd for w7 64 ....plus extra ssd for other games (Specs are in my sig) it definitely helps to sort the garbage out on your pc like unwanted programs etc, background services, processes, antivirus and firewalls bla bla bla. Generally playing on king of the hill servers right now until the novelty wears off... I've spent years on and off in pure trial and error to get my game just how I want it.... Since arma 1 in fact!! It's not perfect but multiplayer is great I'm getting anything from 30 to 70fps with new nvidia beta drivers... There are very occasionaly( hardly ever) major slowdowns which occur for less than a second like somebody pressed the pause button and back again real quick but only when random players die or somebody connects. Will be upgrading soon to the 4770k and 16gb so be nice to see what issues I'm going to run into as I have no doubt it will be a pain in the butt to optimize again :/ ah well... Sleepless nights here we come :)). Anybody getting good results from 4770k with a 680? I'd like to hear if you do... Thanks... BLUE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigstone 48 Posted February 14, 2014 Thanks for the replies guys. I forgot to mention that I have a 120GB SSD too. Will get a couple more SSD's for other games as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retroace87 10 Posted February 15, 2014 what do i need to play arma 3 without lag issues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikiforos 450 Posted February 15, 2014 You need to call NASA and kindly ask for a computer :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neodammerung 8 Posted February 15, 2014 Still waiting for a 6Ghz CPU but unless you like playing with nitrogen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ru55lee 2 Posted February 15, 2014 Hi fellas just built this setup and I was wondering if it will run Arma 2 and Arma 3?NEW CASES - COOLERMASTER K350 Black Case With 12CM Fan 850W PSU - X-VIPER 80+ BRONZE & 14CM Quiet Fan/Modular INTEL HASWELL CPU - Intel Core i5 4670K - 4 Cores Overclocked @ 4.4Ghz + 6MB CACHE INTEL HASWELL MOTHERBOARD - ASUS Z87-PRO - USB2.0, USB3.0, SATA6 + XFIRE/SLI + WIFI CPU COOLING - CORSAIR CWCH60 WATER COOLER - NO NEED TO REFILL RAM - 8GB DDR3 1866Mhz - PATRIOT VIPER V3 RED Performance/Gaming RAM MASTER HARD DRIVE - 1TB (1000GB) SATA3 - 6Gb/s, 7200 RPM & 32MB Cache GRAPHICS CARD (PCI-E) - nVIDIA GeForce GTX770 2GB PCI-E 3.0 Ready SOFTWARE - WINDOWS 7 Premium - 64 Bit Inc DVD/Licence General UseCOOLING - Pack Of 2 x Case Fans Silent & Powerful If you built this PC then surely you would have an idea if it could run it or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigstone 48 Posted February 15, 2014 If you built this PC then surely you would have an idea if it could run it or not. Just waiting for this rig to arrive via shipment. I will post and let you guys know.;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dc207 11 Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Someone way smarter than me helped put these together. I am going to purchase a gaming PC this spring. Will have around $1,500 to spend. Here is one option. Option 1 CPU Intel Core i7-4770 3.4GHz Quad-Core $300.98 CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing $20.81 Motherboard Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 $69.99 Memory A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $69.99 Storage Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" SSD $122.99 Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM $100.00 Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB $682.90 Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower $59.99 Power Supply Corsair 600W ATX12V $44.99 Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.98 Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) $99.98 Keyboard Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle w/Optical Mouse Option 2 i7-4770 + Zotac GTX 780 Ti MoBo: MSI Z87I AC mITX Case: CyberPowerPC Zeus MiniITX Case - Zalman ZM-HPS200 GamingHeadset - Corsair H60 120mm Liquid Cooling - Cooler Master Storm Devastator Gaming KB+M Combo - Corsair CX600 PSU Option 3 i7-4770 + Zotac GTX 780 Ti MoBo: Asus Z87-K Case: Corsair 300R Zalman ZM-HPS200 GamingHeadset - Corsair H60 120mm Liquid Cooling - Cooler Master Storm Devastator Gaming KB+M Combo - Corsair CX600 PSU Option 4 i7-4770 + Zotac GTX 780 Ti MoBo: ASRock B85 Fata1ty Killer Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite/USB3 - free GG Cruiser PC200-I Gaming Headset - Intel 120mm Liquid CPU Cooling - iBuyPower "Gaming" KB+M - OCZ ModXStream 600W PSU I figured I would ask the Arma community which one looks better from your experience, since I intend to play Arma 3 on this PC. Thanks. Edited February 16, 2014 by dc207 Mislabeled Option 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SERE 10 Posted February 16, 2014 Anything below 60fps is unacceptable There is no way to achieve 60fps on any system in coop multiplayer absolutely pathetic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattldempsey 10 Posted February 16, 2014 Anything over 30 FPS is more than acceptable.I can get it with my "i3-4130/HD 7770" Xperimetal config on SP and MP as well. So there is some cheap ways to achieve 30fps in coop multiplayer and it's great Asking for 60fps is absolutely pathetic. How is asking for 60frames absolutely pathetic? One thing we should absolutely be able to gurantee when playing games is the ability to play it seamlessly, even if on low quality settings. Lower than 60 FPS makes a massive difference to satisfaction and overall immersion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonyBIgood 10 Posted February 16, 2014 i7 4930k 590gtx parameter ultra post process high distance 9443 (general and objects) shadow 200 Multiplayers 58/35fps generally i'm 40/45fps but if there is a lot of explosion, fps down briefly (22fps destruction of tanks 10 at once) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dc207 11 Posted February 18, 2014 I just saw this build and was wondering what everyone thought of its ability to run Arma 3. Any feedback or suggestions? I saw it as a premade on newegg. For $1,000. Thanks for any feedback. Corsair Carbide Series 500R Arctic White Steel/Plastic ATX Mid case Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87 ATX Intel Motherboard ASUS GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5 GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C10D-8GXM ADATA Premier Pro SP900 ASP900S3-128GM-C 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive CORSAIR CX750M 750W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pr0ph3tswe 1 Posted February 18, 2014 I just saw this build and was wondering what everyone thought of its ability to run Arma 3. Any feedback or suggestions? I saw it as a premade on newegg. For $1,000. Thanks for any feedback.Corsair Carbide Series 500R Arctic White Steel/Plastic ATX Mid case Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87 ATX Intel Motherboard ASUS GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5 GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C10D-8GXM ADATA Premier Pro SP900 ASP900S3-128GM-C 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive CORSAIR CX750M 750W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified that's a good pc in general, will run arma fine, specially if you oc the cpu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattldempsey 10 Posted February 18, 2014 Pretty much the current gen version of my PC, with faster ram. Dont expect to be playing multiplayer over 30fps though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dc207 11 Posted February 18, 2014 Pretty much the current gen version of my PC, with faster ram.Dont expect to be playing multiplayer over 30fps though. That is surprising to me. I have not played Arma yet so I'm a long way off. This pre-build would be for a relative who also wants to jump in to Arma. We have kept up with Arma thru the years but have always been console gaming. Both sick of XBox and buying the same games every year. I believe you, it just surprises me. I would've thought that processor/GPU would run it well. ---------- Post added at 07:19 ---------- Previous post was at 07:14 ---------- Pretty much the current gen version of my PC, with faster ram.Dont expect to be playing multiplayer over 30fps though. What RAM do you have if you don't mind? I read on some other thread about a possible increase in FPS when going from 1600 to 2133. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattldempsey 10 Posted February 18, 2014 That is surprising to me. I have not played Arma yet so I'm a long way off. This pre-build would be for a relative who also wants to jump in to Arma. We have kept up with Arma thru the years but have always been console gaming. Both sick of XBox and buying the same games every year. I believe you, it just surprises me. I would've thought that processor/GPU would run it well. Lately I have been trying everything possible to get the extra performance out of Arma. On single player it is fine, unless you go with ridiculous draw distances then it will run smooth, doubt you will hit 60's but you will be safely above 30FPS. Multiplayer on the other hand is ridiculous. When singleplayer I have most things upped to max, staying safely above 30FPS. However, join a high populated server and that struggles to get out of the 20's. Even changing everything to low/disabled made little difference, 4/5 FPS at most. I would say that it is the hosts, but it is such a common problem it just seems to be how it is. What RAM do you have if you don't mind? I read on some other thread about a possible increase in FPS when going from 1600 to 2133. Corsair Vengeance, and until reading the thread you are talking about I was running at 1333. I have upped to 1600 since and would like to try/buy 2133. Going up to 1600 has given a nice little boost in singleplayer, but its just to hard to tell on MP. ---- Currently running.. - i5-3570k OC'ed @4.2ghz - 8gb Vengeance OC'ed 1600 - EVGA GTX 670 2gb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakson 1 Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) I see a lot of users going for the 4770K. Did I miss some benchmark saying it actually does better than the 4670K in ARMA3? Usually it's a few percent slower in most games despite being $150 more expensive actually... Hi fellas just built this setup and I was wondering if it will run Arma 2 and Arma 3?NEW CASES - COOLERMASTER K350 Black Case With 12CM Fan 850W PSU - X-VIPER 80+ BRONZE & 14CM Quiet Fan/Modular INTEL HASWELL CPU - Intel Core i5 4670K - 4 Cores Overclocked @ 4.4Ghz + 6MB CACHE INTEL HASWELL MOTHERBOARD - ASUS Z87-PRO - USB2.0, USB3.0, SATA6 + XFIRE/SLI + WIFI CPU COOLING - CORSAIR CWCH60 WATER COOLER - NO NEED TO REFILL RAM - 8GB DDR3 1866Mhz - PATRIOT VIPER V3 RED Performance/Gaming RAM MASTER HARD DRIVE - 1TB (1000GB) SATA3 - 6Gb/s, 7200 RPM & 32MB Cache GRAPHICS CARD (PCI-E) - nVIDIA GeForce GTX770 2GB PCI-E 3.0 Ready SOFTWARE - WINDOWS 7 Premium - 64 Bit Inc DVD/Licence General UseCOOLING - Pack Of 2 x Case Fans Silent & Powerful Yeah, that will run ARMA3 basically as well as anything else. I'm still running this on my i7920 and it's doing a pretty good job but I do run an Ssd for w7 64 ....plus extra ssd for other games (Specs are in my sig) it definitely helps to sort the garbage out on your pc like unwanted programs etc, background services, processes, antivirus and firewalls bla bla bla. Generally playing on king of the hill servers right now until the novelty wears off... I've spent years on and off in pure trial and error to get my game just how I want it.... Since arma 1 in fact!! It's not perfect but multiplayer is great I'm getting anything from 30 to 70fps with new nvidia beta drivers... There are very occasionaly( hardly ever) major slowdowns which occur for less than a second like somebody pressed the pause button and back again real quick but only when random players die or somebody connects. Will be upgrading soon to the 4770k and 16gb so be nice to see what issues I'm going to run into as I have no doubt it will be a pain in the butt to optimize again :/ ah well... Sleepless nights here we come :)). Anybody getting good results from 4770k with a 680? I'd like to hear if you do... Thanks... BLUE. I have a 4770k and 770 which I think is similar to the 680... runs fine in singleplayer. I haven't bothered much with multiplayer though. Someone way smarter than me helped put these together. I am going to purchase a gaming PC this spring. Will have around $1,500 to spend. Here is one option.Option 1 CPU Intel Core i7-4770 3.4GHz Quad-Core $300.98 CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing $20.81 Motherboard Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 $69.99 Memory A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $69.99 Storage Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" SSD $122.99 Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM $100.00 Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB $682.90 Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower $59.99 Power Supply Corsair 600W ATX12V $44.99 Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.98 Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) $99.98 Keyboard Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle w/Optical Mouse Option 2 i7-4770 + Zotac GTX 780 Ti MoBo: MSI Z87I AC mITX Case: CyberPowerPC Zeus MiniITX Case - Zalman ZM-HPS200 GamingHeadset - Corsair H60 120mm Liquid Cooling - Cooler Master Storm Devastator Gaming KB+M Combo - Corsair CX600 PSU Option 3 i7-4770 + Zotac GTX 780 Ti MoBo: Asus Z87-K Case: Corsair 300R Zalman ZM-HPS200 GamingHeadset - Corsair H60 120mm Liquid Cooling - Cooler Master Storm Devastator Gaming KB+M Combo - Corsair CX600 PSU Option 4 i7-4770 + Zotac GTX 780 Ti MoBo: ASRock B85 Fata1ty Killer Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite/USB3 - free GG Cruiser PC200-I Gaming Headset - Intel 120mm Liquid CPU Cooling - iBuyPower "Gaming" KB+M - OCZ ModXStream 600W PSU I figured I would ask the Arma community which one looks better from your experience, since I intend to play Arma 3 on this PC. Thanks. I would go with a 4670 instead of a 4770... $150 cheaper and usually a few percent quicker. First option there looks good though. Second one too probably though it doesn't say which RAM, HDD or SSD is included... neither do options 3 or 4. They're all basically the same though aren't they? Take the one with the case you like the most in that case (har har har).... Don't be afraid to buy a 770 or 760 instead of the 780 Ti either lol... the 780 Ti is quite strong and very expensive. I just saw this build and was wondering what everyone thought of its ability to run Arma 3. Any feedback or suggestions? I saw it as a premade on newegg. For $1,000. Thanks for any feedback.Corsair Carbide Series 500R Arctic White Steel/Plastic ATX Mid case Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87 ATX Intel Motherboard ASUS GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5 GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C10D-8GXM ADATA Premier Pro SP900 ASP900S3-128GM-C 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive CORSAIR CX750M 750W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Looks good. All top parts except the SSD which is a brand I've never heard of... Samsung 840 Evo (newer) Samsung 840 (older) are the best SSDs on the market currently. 128 GB is more than enough for OS, docs and programs... they most important thing is to have your OS on there really. I'm not sure how much anything else benefits from being on an SSD but I think there's a general consensus that games do not run better. Edit: Ofcourse if you CAN change anything about that I would change the SSD and also slim down the power supply... 750W? 500W is more than enough... I'm not sure what the TDP of the 760 is but even a 770 works with 500W and I know the 760 needs less. Also Corsair Vengeance memories are considered one step ahead of the Ripjaws but the Ripjaws are the second best as I remember and the difference is so small you would never notice outside of the benchmark test. Edited February 18, 2014 by Sneakson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pr0ph3tswe 1 Posted February 19, 2014 4770k will only be worth it if you're a hardcore gamer that plays a lot of bf4 or other games with good multi threaded support, or if you do work that actually needs the logical cores, else the i5 is plenty, even for streaming etc the same could be said about the 780ti i suppose, radeon 290 and gtx770 are good enough unless you actually want ultra settings in 1440p etc ssd wise i'd stick to crucial m series and samsung, both are great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arotished 10 Posted February 19, 2014 other games with good multi threaded supportt Yeah, ARMA is allergic to everything that stats with MULTI and ends with SUPPORT, probably the next generation of ARMA will also be the same :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nivimar 10 Posted February 20, 2014 Hey I was just wondering , I have an old system what do recommend I to get better Frame Rates. Aleinware R2 i5 860, AMD 5770 radeon HD,12 GBs of Ram ,500 gb HDD. I know it's weak but it plays it at 25-35 FPS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blu Ray 10 Posted February 20, 2014 Windows 8.1 PRO i5 4200U up to 2.4 Ghz dual core HD 8850M 2GB GDDR5 6 GB RAM Currently with 750gb 5400rpm HD, planning on upgrading to a SSD soon, though I would initially run the game with the 5400rpm HD. Can I run this decently? I have a more powerful desktop but I would prefer to be able to play this on both my laptop and desktop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites