N.o.R.S.u 0 Posted September 25, 2002 Hmm, Maa released his update for CSLA addon in pbo which was coded specially by BIS so that pbo extractors can't open it. Keg maybe you should ask BIS to do this for Winter Nogova's pbo . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PFC_Mike 2 Posted September 25, 2002 exactly what I was suggesting- pretty please, BIS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gr4vy 0 Posted September 25, 2002 But what about the tool, that removes the first 46 bytes, so that pbo extractors CAN open it? Or did BIS code the CSLA upgrade in another way? bye, gr4vy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.o.R.S.u 0 Posted September 25, 2002 Well there's always a way to hack the pbo open. Removing first 46 digits from O.pbo can also be called hacking. But I don't think that someone is going to find a way for just few tree and bush models. But still I fully understand Kegetys, and besides he is, just like I'm, from Finland and we Finns are known as very honest people . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ale2999 0 Posted September 26, 2002 Kegetys, fubar has a VERY valid point there. Anyone with resistance me included could decript nogova and release it on the net. If u put winter nogova on internet, u wount have any fault as u coded it only for ppl that have only 1.75 and above. In two words (actually 3) release it please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kegetys 2 Posted September 26, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ale2999 @ Sep. 26 2002,04:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Kegetys, fubar has a VERY valid point there. Anyone with resistance me included could decript nogova and release it on the net.<span id='postcolor'> Then why dont you do it? Sure, I could go and blow up the neighbors house, but me being able to do it doesnt mean its something legal to do. (duh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ale2999 0 Posted September 26, 2002 hmm the fact is that publishing a modified version of Nogova is not illegal: if it was so, u already did somethin illegal when u published winter version for kulgujev as ppl who had the demo could have modified them to allow them on it. U see my point? I think bis is done with ofp1 and are just releasing the last patches before moving if they didnt already move to a nu project (OFP2 i hope). U wount be doing anything illegal, I love the game as it is, but with more islands and it will be better and also with the release of unofficial patches a new era could be open for ofp untill ofp2 comes out. Else only me and u will keep playing this game , so many people are getting tired (but not me!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted September 26, 2002 Come on Keg, I promise if you get into trouble I'll act as your defense council! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted October 21, 2002 Just stumbled over this thread while looking for something else... Isn't there a possibility to make the Winter Nogova work only with Resistance by making it interdependent with the stuff in the o.pbo (using stuff that only exists in this pbo)? That way only people with Resistance could use the island, and other people would not be able to edit it as easily to work with 1.46 (only by substituting something else for the stuff used from o.pbo)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VXR 9 Posted October 21, 2002 it will need the tree models of resistance, i think the nogovawinter.pbo only has textures? then it would be np as people with 1.46 dont have the res tree models Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eisa01 0 Posted October 21, 2002 Maybe BIS woon't let him release it because their planning to make a winter version for christmas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted October 21, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Vixer @ Oct. 21 2002,14:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it will need the tree models of resistance, i think the nogovawinter.pbo only has textures? then it would be np as people with 1.46 dont have the res tree models<span id='postcolor'> Yes, that's what I was thinking of... I just didn't know if it's possible to have textures only in an addon and use the modell of another addon (like buildings, trees, landscape). If that's possible, then there shouldn't be a legal problem. The addon then only includes non-BIS property (Keg's textures) and only uses references to BIS material (as we do when making missions), and could not be used to ilegally obtain BIS-copyrighted material included in Resistance. In fact it would be more like an additional incentive for people to finally get Resistance, if they haven't updated already! Edit: wouldn't that keep the size of the addon down, too??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fransie 1 Posted October 21, 2002 8--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (eisa01 @ Oct. 21 2002,158)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe BIS woon't let him release it because their planning to make a winter version for christmas  <span id='postcolor'> Which will probably be released around Easter..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwenke75 0 Posted October 21, 2002 Later than Easter in North America.... You guys in Europe are so lucky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted October 21, 2002 i may be wrong but from my experience of retexturing p3d's you need to include them in the pbo with the textures as it will need hex editing/texture swapping, so all the tree models would need to be included, im not sure if the same goes for the actual nogova island but im guessing so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marss911 0 Posted October 21, 2002 But what about if Kegetys send the pbo 2 bis and they put it into a patch. ex. For the patch 1.90 and when you upgrade it, You need 1.85. Like the normal patches. So the people whit 1.46 cant have it. Get my point??? So issent that a good salution? lets hope it is. Bis please help Kegetys and other people so we can play whit that baby! Marcel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0 Posted October 21, 2002 And an iceburg addon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USMC Sniper 0 Posted October 21, 2002 Actually, an iceberg wouldnt be such a bad idea! Say that the north of [winter] nogova could have icebergs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0 Posted October 22, 2002 Is there any updated Winter cammo tanks for resistance yet? whe I try to use ASH's snow armor I get an error....... "Cannot load mission missing addon: ASHSnowBMP2" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marss911 0 Posted October 22, 2002 Not that i know off. And i have allot of the Snow stuff. Ill try 2 search some on the web, but i dont remember anything. Marcel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted October 22, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USMC Sniper @ Oct. 22 2002,01:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually, an iceberg wouldnt be such a bad idea! Say that the north of [winter] nogova could have icebergs. Â <span id='postcolor'> [dream mode]What about an partial ice cover on the "river"? And if it could be destroyed/removed by detonating satchels/artillery... [/dream mode] Well, I doubt the engine would allow for that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kegetys 2 Posted October 22, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (joltan @ Oct. 22 2002,18:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">[dream mode]What about an partial ice cover on the "river"? And if it could be destroyed/removed by detonating satchels/artillery... [/dream mode] Well, I doubt the engine would allow for that... <span id='postcolor'> http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/flashpoint/screenshots/wnoe_1.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cassandra 0 Posted October 22, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kegetys @ Oct. 23 2002,01:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/flashpoint/screenshots/wnoe_1.jpg <span id='postcolor'> tease Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted October 22, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kegetys @ Oct. 22 2002,17:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://koti.mbnet.fi/kegetys/flashpoint/screenshots/wnoe_1.jpg <span id='postcolor'> Damn you - now you're getting cruel! Â Â Â Â ... Â Can you shoot/blow holes in the ice cover??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garritos 0 Posted October 22, 2002 considering that pic was taken on july 6th means that it will never see the light of day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites