vuther316 10 Posted May 21, 2014 hello gentlemen/ladies! i am thinking of getting a new computer this summer and i was thinking of the cyber power pc's gamer infinity 8800 PRO SE http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_Gamer_Infinity_8800_Pro_SE/ seeing as my current system (a laptop) is good for this game but a tower would probably be much better. is there some way i can test how much fps i can get on this computer? (ending note i wasn't sure where to put this and it technically fits into the questions and answers category.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinpenguin 30 Posted May 21, 2014 Short answer, no. There is a lot of people here that can guess how many frames you will get but you will never know for sure until you get your new system. The system you are getting will be able to get 60fps and over no problem. It depends on your video settings however. If you turn everything on to maximum, you will probably get some frame drop. Having said this, it also depends on a lot of other things. If you are playing single player, you will get better frames than if you were playing on a server. In single player, it very much depends on how many AI or objects you have spawned in. In multiplayer, it is not only dependent on the same thing as singleplayer, but the server quality as well. So basically, there is no real answer to your question. All someone can say is you will not be disappointed by your computer, except for the price tag. Most people interested in getting a good system will build their own for some important reasons. It is almost always cheaper to build your own and you can make sure every single component is what you want and not skimped on. Basically, I can build the same system you are purchasing for $1900 for around $1600-$1700. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakson 1 Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) You don't know anything about computers do you? That computer is basically overprized and you can get one with identical strength and all high-quality components instead of some ambiguous ones for about $1400… then consider a more cost-efficient 770 over the 780 and go down to $1200. Buying a computer in parts and assembling it yourself is always the best option, then there’s buying a computer in parts and having someone else assemble it for you and at the very bottom there’s buying from sites like this one that capitalize on the quite clueless non-techies. 4670K, 8GB 1600, 780, 400-700W identical strength at much lower cost. I7, more than less than 8GB memory doesn't really do much, more than 1600 MHz doesn't do much though there are claims that 2400 MHz will make a significant difference using Haswell CPUs in games such as StarCraft II and ARMA3 and 800W is a lot. Sooo... you know. Search for another store. Edited May 23, 2014 by [FRL]Myke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinpenguin 30 Posted May 21, 2014 You don't know anything about computers do you?Because if you're planning on buying the computer you're linking to it seems like your everyday scam. Give us the computer specs and we can estimate it. Is this it? 4820K 32GB 1866 MHz memory 780 800W 256GB A-DATA 2TB HDD Anything else you're paying extra for in there? May as well go with a 4670K, 8GB 1600 MHz memory, 780, 500-700W and you would have identical performance at a much lower cost and Samsung 840 Evo is the best SSD... and a I'd trust a branded HDD over a generic one too. Your computer doesn't really have to cost more than $1400 instead of $1900. Then you can consider a more cost efficient 770 instead of the 780 and be down on $1200. The price for the computer he is buying is not a scam. It is the average price for a pre-built computer with those components. Yes he can skimp on some of those parts and build a cheaper system if he wanted to, but it is all opinions. Yes, you don't need 32 gb of RAM, you do only ever need around 8gb to 12 gb to never have an issue. Also yes, the power supply is a bit overpowered. However, his system does include a monitor, keyboard, and mouse that are pretty good from what I glanced at. Also, for arma, for the love of god get the best possible processor you can get. So if you can afford a 4820K, get it. Arma runs pretty much only on the processor so you will actually be fine with a 760gtx instead of a 780gtx. Only downside is other games will not run as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuther316 10 Posted May 22, 2014 hey guys thanks for all the responses to my thread. yes i do admit i know little about computers except how to use them. im thinking if i only need 12g of ram maybe i can downgrade it and upgrade the processor (or possibly get a second video card). also how many frames do you think this would get on ultra? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SavageCDN 231 Posted May 23, 2014 @OP - get the highest CPU clock speed you can and yeah 12GB is probably enough (easy to add more in the future anyway). For Arma a 2nd video card is not worth it IMO @Sneakson - your reply is a classic IT guy reply not considering perhaps that A: OP does not want the hassle of ordering/building/etc his own PC and B: OP does not have the knowledge to do so and is willing to pay extra for someone else to assemble/build/test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlord554 2065 Posted May 23, 2014 Framerates have been a huge discussion on these forums, but we really can't tell you how good it would do. Yes building your own rig is the best option, is it for everyone, no. Some ppl aren't into technology like others and would just rather pay, nothing wrong with it. I would suggest whatever you buy, no matter where from, research!! Read reviews, performance, cooling abilities, recalls, do the rigs seem to last, etc. Ofcourse you want the most bang for your buck, but get something you want and feel good buying. We all just want to help you make an informed decision. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuther316 10 Posted May 24, 2014 i want to thank you all for the great advice. i was really not expecting so many people to respond so quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuther316 10 Posted May 27, 2014 but by all means feel free to keep posting, the more input i have the better! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuther316 10 Posted June 12, 2014 it also has an SSD if i put my arma on this SSD i have heard that the game would load faster and possibly get more frames. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jandrews 116 Posted June 18, 2014 don't build a PC for Arma, build one to last you the next 5 yrs. I am on my second build, I personally, go this route, find a solid MOBO I like Asus, then a CPU that will rock it for a while, then consider how you will cool it, fan or liquid, then research best RAM for that MOBO and get what you can afford, if you can get 8 GB then do it, sometimes you can get good deals with the higher RAM, then GPU, I usually go high end here, personal preference, I use my old keyboard/mouse/monitor <-- not that old, get what you NEED and build it, Its very easy to build IMO, follow the instructions, if this is the route you go, find a box with good fans, power supply, better to have more then less IMO, get SSD hard drive, my rig specs i7 4950 32 GB RAM SLI GTX 780 x2 SSD 500GB liquid cool ASUS MOBO x79 deluxe over kill YES... why? cause I CAN! oh and certainly not to use with ARMA 3 exclusively. I get all my parts from Newegg.com. I may pay more but they offer free shipping and its usually next day delivery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamasan8 11 Posted June 19, 2014 Run any current game released about the same time as Arma3, note the FPS. Divide by 3 to get what you will get in Arma 3. Current game-fps / 3 = arma 3 fps. Going overkill on CPU/GPU/RAM amount will see very little benefit. In 5 years, the system will be almost as sluggish as midrange-systems. At least, thats the way it's been. Now, CPUs have stagnated, barely anything new in the past 5 years. Intel i7 is overkill for games, will see miniscule performance increases. SLI is good...for games that support it. Its not 100% efficient (other than in Unigine benchmarks) meaning you won't get double the FPS, no matter what. Games barely use more than 2 gigs of RAM. You can almost get a way with 4 gigs. For the next 5 years, I don't see memory usage going past min 8 gigs, maximum 16 gigs. Unless Microsoft releases an OS that eats 5-6 gigs. Many plan to get SLI in the future, very few end up doing it. Because its simply more efficient to buy a completely new card than having 2 old. In terms of watt usage, FPS, features etc. Are you going to buy a 2nd GPU which only supports DX11.1 when the other option is a GPU that supports DirectX14 or 15? And OpenGL 5 etc? Plus twice the performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miketim 20 Posted June 19, 2014 Your statement of normal game fps/3 is not accurate, not at all. Some people have computers that are not strong in graphics, but due to certain factors, especially certain CPUs can run arma very well, its all very hit or miss. It depends on your computer, I am sure 100 people have told you this, but you cant know without actually running it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nettrucker 142 Posted July 3, 2014 it also has an SSD if i put my arma on this SSD i have heard that the game would load faster and possibly get more frames. It won't give u more frames but it will access game data a little faster and it feels smoother to play. LOD switching is almost gone with an SSD. You need a good and powerful CPU to get the best out of your play experience, as others already stated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites