SpaceAlex 0 Posted July 22, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ July 22 2002,03:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL Â <span id='postcolor'> Que? Â <span id='postcolor'> Nothing. Just Gruber sounds so funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Morgan 0 Posted July 25, 2002 Okay but if you see cwc ond ofpr James said he is retireing in ofpr In CWC he said the spooks promised him the quit life In OFPR he is in the Army. Â In CWC he works for the CIA. You figure it out. BIS couldn't do a straight story line to save their life. Details if you pay attention to details the big stuff takes care of its self. BTW killing Victor was a good move. Â I will tell you right now that the main leaders of most revolutions never live. Lenin, Â Martin Luther King, and Joan of Arc just too name three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 0 Posted July 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Capt Morgan @ July 25 2002,16:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Okay but if you see cwc ond ofpr James said he is retireing in ofpr In CWC he said the spooks promised him the quit life In OFPR he is in the Army. Â In CWC he works for the CIA. You figure it out. BIS couldn't do a straight story line to save their life. Details if you pay attention to details the big stuff takes care of its self. BTW killing Victor was a good move. Â I will tell you right now that the main leaders of most revolutions never live. Lenin, Â Martin Luther King, and Joan of Arc just too name three.<span id='postcolor'> "The difference between fact and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted July 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Capt Morgan @ July 25 2002,04:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'> See, Morgan, I don't want to be rude, but if you really thought about it, you're not making any sense. Not only do most of the things you said not have any relevance to them whatsoever, but you find 1 plausable fault in BIS' plot and say they can't keep a storyline to save their life? Come on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jester983 0 Posted July 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpaceAlex @ July 22 2002,02:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh, and that Gastovski's picture at the end of the credits is just a glitch. Â <span id='postcolor'> *snaps fingers* shucks. I thought that was some lil thing that might tell us something about IL or some other thing. Oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyKnight 0 Posted July 25, 2002 Gastovski does retire at the end of OFPR, he goes and runs his plane hire company. However, he gets recalled to active duty in CWC because he was a special forces soldier and they need his experience. If you retire early from the army you often get put on the reserves list or something, even then I think the army has the right to draft you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marshmanguy 0 Posted July 31, 2002 This post wasn't really a spoiler because you see, in the very first cutscene that Victor is killed. It shows him lying on the ground - dead. I havn't finished the campaign yet due to sluggishness with the game but who is this Adam guy that Liz can't forget and what happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marshmanguy 0 Posted July 31, 2002 Forgot something. You know the guy in CWC that's the resistance leader? The guy that gives Armstrong the documents? Well, had they mad Victor look the same as him they could have kept him alive and used him in the next one without putting a dent in the storyline. Just a thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted August 1, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (marshmanguy @ July 31 2002,15:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This post wasn't really a spoiler because you see, in the very first cutscene that Victor is killed. Â It shows him lying on the ground - dead. Â I havn't finished the campaign yet due to sluggishness with the game but who is this Adam guy that Liz can't forget and what happened.<span id='postcolor'> No, man, you gotta actually finish the campeign to know what we're talking about here </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (marshmanguy @ July 31 2002,15:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Forgot something. Â You know the guy in CWC that's the resistance leader? Â The guy that gives Armstrong the documents? Â Well, had they mad Victor look the same as him they could have kept him alive and used him in the next one without putting a dent in the storyline. Â Just a thought.<span id='postcolor'> Ok, so (indulging your idea) why does he go from Nogova to Everon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted August 1, 2002 Victor doesnt die in the first cutscene, he is just knocked over by the force of the explosions. I think its Geranimo(or how its spelled..) that runs up to Victor. Victor gets up and says he is ok... James Gastovski never works for CIA. First he is a spec ops guy in OFP:R, then he retires and CIA helps him get his little plane company on Malden. Hell brakes lose when the russians start invading the islands and this guy named George calls James. "Christ George, you scared the hell outta me!" ... "And to think you spooks promised me the quiet-life out here..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marshmanguy 0 Posted August 1, 2002 It would only make sense for him to move to Everon. He has fought them before, he is an experienced leader, and no point in appointing a new leader if you already have a perfectly sound one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airwolf 50 Posted August 2, 2002 ya know, in almost every resistance cutscene theres a guy who has the same face as commander slava, the commander on everon in cwc, i dont think he ever talks though, maybee he is slava and he went on to become the leader? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted August 2, 2002 Or maybe you all are reading too deep into it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted August 2, 2002 Maybe they just re-use the few faces they have... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marshmanguy 0 Posted August 2, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Airwolf @ Aug. 02 2002,03:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ya know, in almost every resistance cutscene theres a guy who has the same face as commander slava, the commander on everon in cwc, i dont think he ever talks though, maybee he is slava and he went on to become the leader?<span id='postcolor'> Im not talking about Slava. Im talking about the leader, the guy thats on the top of the castle. Also Slava isnt the leader of the resistance he's just a squad commander. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jepuskar 1 Posted August 5, 2002 I think he moves to Everon because Nogova vegatation was far too detailed for James. Quote "Thee who analyzes too much, doesn't enjoy game for what its worth." Author: Mortician Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oilerpunk 0 Posted August 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I think he moves to Everon because Nogova vegatation was far too detailed for James. <span id='postcolor'> LMAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swilliams 0 Posted August 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It would only make sense for him to move to Everon. He has fought them before, he is an experienced leader, and no point in appointing a new leader if you already have a perfectly sound one. <span id='postcolor'> Nogova has nothing to do with the Malden islands. Yes its in a similar location but Nogova is a republic and the Malden islands are joined politicly. So why would Victor go fight for another nation if he is happy in his home, away from Soviet influence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamko 0 Posted August 17, 2002 He fought for his homeland to kick out the ruskies, so maybe he would like to help others too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speeeedy 0 Posted August 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (jepuskar @ Aug. 05 2002,18:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think he moves to Everon because Nogova vegatation was far too detailed for James. Â <span id='postcolor'> Yea except he doesnt move to Everon he moves to Malden. His plane company is at an island near malden remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAMEER_77 0 Posted August 17, 2002 Emm...Wasnt this thread meant to be about Victor, not James. Â PEACE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedStorm 0 Posted August 17, 2002 You guys have thought about this waaayyy more than BIS (and more than's good for you) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyKnight 0 Posted August 18, 2002 I've just completed Resistance for the second time around and I'm convinced that they could have made a better ending to the campaign - one that fitted in with the results of the last mission. In the final mission to destroy the planes on the runway I equipped myself with a Bizon with six clips, an RPG and two rockets and a Baretta pistol. I systematically wiped out all the enemies within a three kilometer radius of the airport (using a combination of rapid fire squad killing then driving to the next bunch of enemy etc). When I finally destroyed the planes there was a friendly tank and a full squad of Resistance troops standing right next to me on the runway. However, the mission ends and suddenly the runway is occupied by Soviet tanks and there are destroyed choppers there that weren't there before!?! Then in the cutscene Victor dies! Come on - couldn't someone have thought of a better constructed ending that that? I had won outright, yet I still got blasted by an enemy force that never existed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted August 18, 2002 One thing that gets under my skin every time: Ever notice where Victor gets pinned down? Its a hill....One hill.......in the middle of an open desert.......and he runs right for it like theres no other path to take. If i was playing him durring that cut scene i could have gotten half way accross the island before that armor caught up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakerod 254 Posted August 18, 2002 The end should have been like a whole new mission like he goes into to destroy a convoy and then it turns out there are like tons of helicopters and stuff like that or something...im on the second level in the campaign cuz my comp cant handle nogova very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites