x3kj 1247 Posted September 27, 2014 A proposal to suspend veto rights in the event of grave crimes against humanity that mandate urgent reaction, pitched in 2013 by France, was revived at a high-profile discussion at the assembly. If they want to kick out russia for crimes against humanity, why haven't they kicked the US and A out of there a long time ago then? Oh right, because they only fight "terrorists" and never supply any weapons to anybody. NOT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastcat 14 Posted September 27, 2014 If they want to kick out russia for crimes against humanity, why haven't they kicked the US and A out of there a long time ago then?Oh right, because they only fight "terrorists" and never supply any weapons to anybody. NOT Because the USA is not on the brink of starting WW3. If they would go through with this they would also have to kick out China long before the USA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted September 27, 2014 Anyway there's no way Russia will lose their veto right at the security council, and to be honest, i think it's a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oxmox 73 Posted September 27, 2014 Anyway there's no way Russia will lose their veto right at the security council, and to be honest, i think it's a good thing. Justified critics against Russia exist, but by all means this should not lead to a pure anti-russian view and there should be no option to kick out members from the community of nations that easily. The UN is very important, of course the veto right of the 5 main members sounds not fair since everyone of them can block decisions but it is one of the important feautures that powerful nations simply cant always enforce their interests. There are of course exceptions countries who ignore UN resolutions and some critics exist against the UN, but overall it is important the this kind of political structure stays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) - Wrong thread Edited September 28, 2014 by MistyRonin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastcat 14 Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) Donetsk? http://youtu.be/ji8d5kujsy4 http://youtu.be/VOQPF4z_vxQ Mariupol Edited September 27, 2014 by beastcat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aleksadragutin 9 Posted September 27, 2014 Donetsk? http://youtu.be/ji8d5kujsy4 http://youtu.be/VOQPF4z_vxQ Mariupol Random sounds on video, and is that the same guy commenting on grad's and D-30's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastcat 14 Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) Random sounds on video, and is that the same guy commenting on grad's and D-30's? The second and third video are from the same place, but at different times of day. Edited September 27, 2014 by beastcat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surpher 1 Posted September 27, 2014 Donetsk? http://youtu.be/ji8d5kujsy4 http://youtu.be/VOQPF4z_vxQ Mariupol First video is from Shakhtars'k, Donetsk Oblast taken in July or August. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastcat 14 Posted September 28, 2014 http://youtu.be/FxdD85Vb9Lg Russia is also taking steps to block Facebook, Google and TwitterEcho of Moscow - Facebook, Twitter and Google: Mechanics of shutdown [Google Translate]It was planned that they will be locked in the second half 2016, but this week deputany urgently changed their minds and adopted the amendments on which switch-off date is transferred to the January 1, 2015. But Roscomnadzor is in hurry to create conditions more quickly. Breaking technique - dvuhhodovki. First a clearly impracticable requirement to foreign services is presented to transfer all user data on the site under the control of the FSB, and then they are cut off for non-compliance. Or rather, we get cut off from them. Izvestia - Roscomnadzor: Google, Facebook and Twitter have to register [Google Translate] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted September 28, 2014 Well I fear that in a few years Russia will have it´s own closed off internet.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted September 28, 2014 Well I fear that in a few years Russia will have it´s own closed off internet.... If it happens it's gonna be because the majority of the Russian people allow it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
batto 17 Posted September 28, 2014 Well I fear that in a few years Russia will have it´s own closed off internet.... And by that time it'll have half of its brains out of country. It's just a matter of time before Putin's Russia will collapse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aleksadragutin 9 Posted September 28, 2014 There are always proxies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted September 28, 2014 There are always proxies. Doesn´t work if it is everything outside is switched off on the ISP level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aleksadragutin 9 Posted September 28, 2014 Doesn´t work if it is everything outside is switched off on the ISP level. Well they didn't say that they are switching off everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surpher 1 Posted September 28, 2014 Live Lenin toppling from Kharkiv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastcat 14 Posted September 28, 2014 Live Lenin toppling from Kharkiv. I'm against that... The smaller lenins are ok, but this one has become kinda symbolic for the freedom square. I hope they will at least find something good to replace the lenin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted September 28, 2014 Well they didn't say that they are switching off everything. you take the rights slowly, one by time ... until there is nothing left ... every dictator knows this rulebook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastcat 14 Posted September 28, 2014 http://youtu.be/pmK2JaHVHek Goodbye Lenin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
negah 26 Posted September 28, 2014 http://www.globalresearch.ca/dozens-of-bodies-found-in-mass-graves-in-eastern-ukraine/5404183 Around 40 bodies of civilians have been found in one of three mass graves in eastern Ukraine, the prime minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic said on Thursday. Earlier the territory was under the control of the Ukrainian army and the National Guard’s battalion Aidar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surpher 1 Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) http://www.globalresearch.ca/dozens-of-bodies-found-in-mass-graves-in-eastern-ukraine/5404183 (OSCE) Latest from OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) to Ukraine based on information received as of 18:00 (Kyiv time), 23 September 2014 The SMM proceeded to the scene and saw in the coal mine two areas located fifty metres apart, each containing two human bodies. Near the road on the edge of the village, the SMM observed a pile of earth resembling a grave which had a stick with a plaque, written in Russian and containing the names (or in one case – initials) of five individuals. Neither in the coal mine nor in the village did the SMM see any forensic experts. COMMENT: The SMM cannot provide a forensic assessment of the sites. (Bellingcat) Geolocating the MH17 Buk Convoy in Russia Over the last few weeks Bellingcat has been examining footage of a Buk missile launcher filmed inside Russia that matches the Buk missile launcher linked to the down of MH17. The movements of the Buk launcher unit linked to the downing of MH17 were previously examined on Bellingcat, and the reporting relied on several videos of a convoy moving through Belgorod oblast in Russia. Further analysis of the videos yields information which can be used to accurately locate where the videos were filmed. Edited September 29, 2014 by surpher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted September 29, 2014 ( Al Jazeera ) Ukrainian troops killed by rebel shelling Shelling has killed at least seven Ukrainian soldiers in the rebel stronghold of Donetsk, in the worst reported bout of violence since a ceasefire between separatist rebels and Ukrainian troops began on September 5.Security officials said on Monday that the troops were killed when a rebel shell hit their armoured personnel carrier late on Sunday near the main airport at Donetsk in eastern Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted September 29, 2014 It seems the rebels are still trying to get the airport under their control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
