[SP/MP] Dynamic Whole Map ArmA3 Missions by SaOk

[SaOk 112]

Thanks :), those are normal numbers so far (need to remember the vehicles also count the small house physX items). The borderline itself usually have around 300 markers, but could make it bit more light making the markers biggers and lowering amount of them.

[stlassen 16]

There is something annoying about how the HC groups are handled.

I decided to attack a base camp. Part of that plan was to have three other HC groups participate in the attack. I ordered them to move to where I wanted them and started moving towards the base myself. I had about 1.5-2 km to go. As I got closer and wanted to check how far the HC groups had come, they had been removed and replaced by other HC units somewhere else on the map. I'm quite certain they weren't killed in combat.

If I give a HC group some commands, I expect them to stay in game until I release them or they die. It's annoying to plan an attack, only to have it ruined by the simulator.

Can you make it so that I can "lock" HC groups so they won't be removed by your simulator. Likewise also make it possible to "unlock" a HC group, to give it back to the simulator so to speak.

[LSD_Timewarp82 21]

I am actually at 1 / 472 / Units:123

And now? ^^

[stlassen 16]

I am actually at 1 / 472 / Units:123

And now? ^^

How was your FPS with those numbers?

[LSD_Timewarp82 21]

was jumping from 15 to 20 short 30, then 17, then 20... The typical Arma Engine shit as always. But thats not what makes me sad, i dont understand why the Frames wont go up after this, and this will always a problem when Units spawns how they want. I wasnt able to get back to usual frames, not even after this fight was over and the Counter goes back to 79, Frames stays down. Tried Restart, again restart, Restart PC, checking Temperatures (lol, my Waterchiller delivers enough fresh cold water to the System, so no Temperature problem) i simply cant get it.

For me there are now 2 things:

1: Arma Engine is shit, 10 years old since then not optimized (good work @ devs, NOT)

or

2: Something is stucked in the mission or something, i dont know, whatever ^^

Maybe it was the Illuminati or O.J. Simpson or both together. I am out of good ideas what the problem could be

[SaOk 112]

Did you try to save in wla menu, exit, restart the mission in scenarios menu and continue your mission progress? And FPS was instantly poor?

Could be still some overgrown array issue in mission side, but it should reset also when restarting and resuming mission progress in the mission.

[LSD_Timewarp82 21]

This variant i didnt try cause as i wanted to try this (saving with 0-0-0, then Exit9 well after this my Screen was stucked while saving and then i get the very tpical PhysX.dll Error while saving. Great ^^

[SaOk 112]

New WLA update: Added ability to choose next offered task in civilian and soldier conversations, +other tweaks/fixes (not work done yet for that possible leak).

The DEV-build, is much more unstable currently than official build.

[LSD_Timewarp82 21]

I will try it again till my game slows and then i try to restart and resume the Game over the Restart scenario like you told me. I start in a few minutes just extracting the new AiA Terrainpack and i am ready to go :)

[stlassen 16]

was jumping from 15 to 20 short 30, then 17, then 20... The typical Arma Engine shit as always. But thats not what makes me sad, i dont understand why the Frames wont go up after this, and this will always a problem when Units spawns how they want. I wasnt able to get back to usual frames, not even after this fight was over and the Counter goes back to 79, Frames stays down. Tried Restart, again restart, Restart PC, checking Temperatures (lol, my Waterchiller delivers enough fresh cold water to the System, so no Temperature problem) i simply cant get it.

For me there are now 2 things:

1: Arma Engine is shit, 10 years old since then not optimized (good work @ devs, NOT)

or

2: Something is stucked in the mission or something, i dont know, whatever ^^

Maybe it was the Illuminati or O.J. Simpson or both together. I am out of good ideas what the problem could be

What other MODs do you have installed? Try to do it without any MODs installed.

I just tried going completely vanilla and hardcore. I've put all at max, have absolutely no MODs installed and go totally hardcore. FPS is 40-60. I seem to have no conflicts.

As soon as I add my normal MODs, FPS goes down 20-30. What really hurts my performance is the number of units+vehicles.

The number of markers I doubt have much if any impact on performance (unless there is something in the simulation). Number of units does, especially if you have other MODs installed that do stuff with the units, like AI enhancers.

1: I don't think it is because of unoptimized engine. That's just BS. Of course it's better than 10 years ago! Can it become better? Sure! Of course it can! :)

2: It might be something in the mission. Or it might be some conflict with MODs. I so wanted to use GetTactical in this mission, but unfortunately that is just not possible because of limitations that messes things up. Not all MODs can be used due to limitations. It may be that some other MOD have leaks that become very apparent because of the number units.

This variant i didnt try cause as i wanted to try this (saving with 0-0-0, then Exit9 well after this my Screen was stucked while saving and then i get the very tpical PhysX.dll Error while saving. Great ^^

This sounds like something is wrong with your installation or possibly an A3-MOD conflict. I've never had that problem.

Have you also made sure graphics drivers etc. are updated?

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0 / 450 / Units: 101

:)

I captured a base.

I set up camp wolf after that at the same place.

The place is crawling with friendlies and I have two tanks on guard.

Occasionally I hear a bullet fly over head.

Despite the base being in my control, with me and my men and tanks in the middle of it, I still lost it???

[LSD_Timewarp82 21]

Dude, i create systems for humans like you, i mean i earn my money with PC since 20 years, did you mean a person like me which is always focused to give the best in Pc, did you think such persons have old drivers on the pc? My rig is cooled by a Titan500 Aquachiller, it cools water down to 10-12°C, when my CPU is in Loadstate it never reaches 35°C

To the other thing with mods and issues. True. There has to be some issues but u wont find Human,Alien or any Extraterrestrial form which would force me to play Arma without mods. It´s looks like a big pile of shit without the one or other mod and texture.

In the end we can only say there are more variables where the issue can be, also possible it´s in the mission, this would explain why i am not the only one which has issues which sounds very familiar to my ones...

[stlassen 16]

Dude, i create systems for humans like you, i mean i earn my money with PC since 20 years, did you mean a person like me which is always focused to give the best in Pc, did you think such persons have old drivers on the pc? My rig is cooled by a Titan500 Aquachiller, it cools water down to 10-12°C, when my CPU is in Loadstate it never reaches 35°C

Dude! :p I don't know you CV. Even experts forget sometimes. Even people with no knowledge have monster computers. And good for you for owning one. Dude! :p

:) Professionally I have about the same amount of experience as you, as technician, supporter and developer - plus ~14 years. :) I forget sometimes. I'm human, and such is life. ;)

To the other thing with mods and issues. True. There has to be some issues but u wont find Human,Alien or any Extraterrestrial form which would force me to play Arma without mods. It´s looks like a big pile of shit without the one or other mod and texture.

In the end we can only say there are more variables where the issue can be, also possible it´s in the mission, this would explain why i am not the only one which has issues which sounds very familiar to my ones...

In the end, if a mission works as intended by the author without mods, we can only ask for some optimization and go to the other mod authors as well, when we have done what we can to isolate the problematic mods.

[LSD_Timewarp82 21]

I know your suggestion was to help me,answer was no offense against u. I just tried to say that i am very explicit when it comes to the Driver/Hardware thing, you know what i mean?

To sort ot a couple of mods, man i did this since Arma3 meanwhile at least 3 times, it doesnt help at all cause i love it to play the "Not Vanilla" Arma

When i like something i install it but when i realize some issues while playing i uninstall the mods always after conflict was seen. And i play only SaOks mission, nothing else ^^

[stlassen 16]

I know your suggestion was to help me,answer was no offense against u. I just tried to say that i am very explicit when it comes to the Driver/Hardware thing, you know what i mean?

;) No offence was taken. I'm close to impossible to offend. ;) My life is lived in recognition that what one does, is what one caries inside and has nothing to do with anyone else, even if a reaction is done because of what someone else did. There may sometime come up a reactive energy that expresses itself in various ways, sadness, anger, "offence", but it happens only in the here and now and never caries over into the next moment. ;)

I know what you mean. I have also build up a routine over the years on how to set up my computer, that make me very seldom have any computer problems. Habits you know. :)

To sort ot a couple of mods, man i did this since Arma3 meanwhile at least 3 times, it doesnt help at all cause i love it to play the "Not Vanilla" Arma

I hear ya :)

When i like something i install it but when i realize some issues while playing i uninstall the mods always after conflict was seen. And i play only SaOks mission, nothing else ^^

It is a mission so full of potential. Still a lot of balancing for sure and a lot of things to correct, but so full of potential. I'm also looking forward to the MP part.

Out of curiosity, what MODs do you use?

I personally almost always have this core:

CBA_A3, outlw_magRepack, outlw_moduload, RecoilFix, RYD_BT, st_gi, st_nametags, st_stamina_bar, sthud, tao_foldmap, TEN_fluidDoorOpening, TPW_MODS, Unlock_Uniforms, VTS_Weaponresting, WW_AIMenu, bCombat, Blastcore-Tracers, Blastcore, st_map_autobrightness, SaOK sounds (only in WLA obviously), AiA SP (when needed)

I'm testing these:

AGM, GetTactical (dropped in WLA due to limitations), A3wounding (some conflicts with WLA respawn), MCC (mostly for testing and debugging), tort_DynamicWeather, JSRS2.2,

I sometimes also add item and unit mods, depends on what immersion I want.

Cheers :)

[LSD_Timewarp82 21]

I might found the issue"mod" (i think its MCC), but needs more testing now.

I dont use JSRS 2.2, i have already Dragonfyre ;)

My list: -mod=@CBA_A3;@AllInArmaTerrainPack;@ARC_Patches;@ASDG_JR;@BaBe_midTex;@bcombat;@Blastcore-A3;@bzly_UIcorrections;@CHO_F35B;@dfs_3rdperson;@DragonFyre;@fhq_accessories;@fhq_debug;@fhq_m4_a3;@hlcmods;@HLCmods_jsrs;@lkr_ammo;@L_ES;@Mao;@mao_anims_sway_fix;@mbg;@napf;@NziwasogoV06;@outfit_gear;@outlw_moduload_v0.5.2;@panthera;@RDS;@RH Pistol pack;@mad_resh;@mad_build;@RH_M4;@rjj_agile_helicopters;@SMA V1.7;@STI;@sud_russians;@supportCall;@tao_foldmap_a3;@TFA;@tmr;@tort_DynamicWeather;@TPW_MODS;@trixie_recon;@U100;@US_helos_Kimi" -nosplash -noPause -skipIntro

[stlassen 16]

I might found the issue"mod" (i think its MCC), but needs more testing now.

Yeah, MCC definately has a tendency to screw things up.

I dont use JSRS 2.2, i have already Dragonfyre ;)

*CRY*:cry2: Me want too! :cry2:

It's not official yet, is it?

[LSD_Timewarp82 21]

No, not yet. But its complete different to 2.2 ;) It sounds simply awesome, especially with this addon it´s a kind of its own : http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?178731-Laxemann-s-quot-Enhanced-Soundscape-quot-%28L_ES%29-Gun-reverb-and-echo-based-on-terrain&highlight=Dragonfyre

Yesterday i placed down a couple of tanks in the Takistan Canyons, at the same time 4 A-10C´s takes off the runway to wipe those cunts up. The sounds i heard, i cant describe it, Amazing! 4 GAU-8´s Cannons, DragonFyre & the new reverb sound mod = epic ;)

[avfc 10]

Is the vehicles moving around on their own an arma issue or the mission?

For example i tend to set up a Rearm/Fuel/Repair station with one of each vehicle at my base and whenever i leave and come back they are all moved around or even completely gone and its the same with every vehicle, they also teleport with you when you fast travel which is also a bit annoying. Also civilian vehicles spawning all over airfields etc can be a hindrance.

Damn timewarp i thought i used a lot of mods :p

[CrazyChrisX 10]

Hello Soak.

i got a little suggestion here, that a few people might like and few people that might not like it, but anyway here it goes.

would it be possible if in the WLA menu and under options to have a option to disable all vehicles, like have it only infantry, and then maybe add like a option like, light vehicle (hunter ish vehicles), then Medium and then heavy and the last option would be all or something around there, since a few times i try and play the mission like a infantry style only, so i dont need to worry about having to have a AT launcher on me 24/7, but that dosent exacly go as planned, i go about 30 min without AT and then suddently there is a ton of enemy vehicles spawning in and heads straight to me...

hope to hear from you soon.

Regards

Chris

[LSD_Timewarp82 21]

I asked him a year ago about this, i dont know if that is so easy to do. It would be cool when able to mark a part of the map to have an intense CQB Battle only with Soldiers, no vehicles at all. Too bad that BI´s default AI is too stupid to enter&search a house, only with mods the AI will search houses

[SaOk 112]

Entered now also the COOP version to MANW. Please support: ;)

http://makearmanotwar.com/entry/kEtaMIcazQ#.VBc_CGccSUk

Still need to focus on SP version up to October deadline. Coop will get more updates from November.

[CrazyChrisX 10]

Question: is there a way of force capturing a camp? like you put something in the debug and you activate it locally or something and the camp gets captured?

since i have already encountered 2 bugged camps that wont be captured.. and its annoying since the enemy keeps spawning either at the camp or close to the camp, and starts assaulting other camps near it.

if there is no way of force capturing a camp at the moment, would it be possible to add a feature in the WLA menu or something that we can add in the debug and activate locally to force capture the camp if its bugged?

[SaOk 112]

Thanks, will look into that issue. You can change nearest camp to friendly with code:

([] CALL NEARESTCAMP) setmarkercolor "ColorBlue";

[fn_Quiksilver 1636]

Played around on your co-op mission with some friends yesterday. Good fun!

[LSD_Timewarp82 21]

Its close to unplayable now, Unitcounter is in the top right of the pic...

I´m just wondering why in Elektro is so much activity, was not even close to there....