Low CPU utilization & Low FPS

[jumpinghubert 49]

Lol I upgraded my GPU from GTX 570 to GTX 680 and the frames in battle are almost the same. Don't spend your money on GPUs guys.

you will have little advantage in dense forest on chernarus (AiA) without AI and heavily pushed AA-modes. Thats all :p OR: overclock a haswell to 6GHZ.

[Hiikeri 10]

Lol I upgraded my GPU from GTX 570 to GTX 680 and the frames in battle are almost the same. Don't spend your money on GPUs guys.

I know that, about 3 years ago, with Arma2, i upgraded GTX460 to GTX560Ti and fps increase was about 1-3fps, 40 > 41-43fps. i had that time AMD Phenom II @4.0Ghz.

Then i upgraded CPU to i7-2600k and fps increase was on stock i7 something +20fps, overall 60+fps. After overclocking (i7@5.0Ghz) it rises more ~10fps, then i got 70+fps (on Arma2).

1. i5/i7 @4.5Ghz... ++++

2. DDR3 2133Mhz... +++

3. Tweaking (Arma3, Win and Steam) ++

4. GPU (r7950 > faster or GTX670 > faster) +

5. Win + Arma3 on (separate) SSD, or A3 simply on the RamDisk.

I think that is formula to great fps. And MP, the most important thing is greatly running "HIGH FPS" server...

Edited October 16, 2013 by Hiikeri
1 wrong word.

[ric 1]

you will have little advantage in dense forest on chernarus (AiA) without AI and heavily pushed AA-modes. Thats all :p OR: overclock a haswell to 6GHZ.

6GHZ?...outstanding idea and if he closes off all ventilation to his case he could throw a 2 pound roast in there and cook dinner while he plays A3 ;)

[jumpinghubert 49]

6GHZ?...outstanding idea and if he closes off all ventilation to his case he could throw a 2 pound roast in there and cook dinner while he plays A3 ;)

enjoy your meal :). Beside this, hiikeri said all in his last posting. More than a HD7950 you don´t need but all cpu-power you can get plus ramspeed etc.

[TSAndrey 1]

So can we atleast finally get that performance blog now?

[stk2008 14]

So can we atleast finally get that performance blog now?

LOL good luck with that been waiting ages for it.

I cant see them being able to fix this any ways its going to be arma2 all over again when they said it was an engine limitation :(

[mobile_medic 43]

There is absolutely no evidence to support the hope that they will seriously address this issue anytime in the near future... if ever.

[stk2008 14]

There is absolutely no evidence to support the hope that they will seriously address this issue anytime in the near future... if ever.

I agree tbh its all pointing in the direction they wont and cant other wise we would have had some kind of optimization blog or some word saying yes we know what the issue is etc etc.

The issue is the engine its old and cant be fixed with out a total rewrite so every one should do what im doing give up.

12 years of OFP/ARMA and i can say i loved every minute of it and what BIS have done but ARMA 3 to me was a disaster and I am truly gutted.

I do cling on to some hope it will be fixed but I really dont think it will or can be :(

[Hiikeri 10]

I have played since, Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis (2001) since 2002, and even then we also dream about something superb future PC, who has so great performance that OFP is running greatly (=60+fps in ALL time).

Then cames Arma2 and i buy much, much more CPU power, and much more GPU power and everything else...to hope a great running gaming experience. But, its newer running great, becouse Its Bohemia Interactive game.

Now, 2013, with Arma3, we are a same situation. We just hope that "we" has a MAX PC, but forget IT! Its newer been happen, BI:s games are ~5 years front of us.

i think we have now PC who can play original OFP greatly. :)

Or somekind of medium settings > 100fps on ARMA2 (2009).

[stk2008 14]

I have played since, Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis (2001) since 2002, and even then we also dream about something superb future PC, who has so great performance that OFP is running greatly (=60+fps in ALL time).

Then cames Arma2 and i buy much, much more CPU power, and much more GPU power and everything else...to hope a great running gaming experience. But, its newer running great, becouse Its Bohemia Interactive game.

Now, 2013, with Arma3, we are a same situation. We just hope that "we" has a MAX PC, but forget IT! Its newer been happen, BI:s games are ~5 years front of us.

i think we have now PC who can play original OFP greatly. :)

Or somekind of medium settings > 100fps on ARMA2 (2009).

There engine is not ahead of today's computers its there engine that does not utilize today's computers to there highest.

[windies 11]

There is absolutely no evidence to support the hope that they will seriously address this issue anytime in the near future... if ever.

If it was gonna be fixed, it would have been fixed before the Alpha was even released most likely. BI has kind of destroyed their own reputation in my eyes over the course of ArmA 2 and now ArmA 3. So many problems with so many possible ways to fix those problems and the general response is "Some thing's are just too hard". It's a pity because I used to consider them one of the better developers in the gaming industry because they really supported their products and they had attention to detail. Now with ArmA 3, I just don't feel that anymore and I didn't feel it much with ArmA 2 either.

If they didn't support their products post release so hard though, I don't think they would honestly be in business because most people wouldn't buy their buggy products, because there would never be any hope for it to be fixed. That's about the only thing that keeps me coming back, is the hope that things will be fixed. But that's slowly fading and I'm starting to see the truth about what kind of a developer BI actually is.

[stk2008 14]

Yeah its there previous history that gives me some very small hope they do fix it but like you all so said I dont think it can or will be.

Shame I all so agree BIS used to be the best game DEV out there by miles they had patch after patch for ARMA 1 and 2 years after its release.

But ARMA 3 for me has really upset me I am truly gutted I loved OFP and ARMA I never used to play any thing else but now I cant bear to even start ARMA 3 up.

I see patch after patch for ARMA 3 not one fixes these terrible performance issues or if they do they cover it up and not fix the real problem.

BIS for god sake please I beg of you and so does many of your loyal fans for the past 12 years please give us some info or at least put us out of our misery so I can move on with my life :(

[windies 11]

Yeah its there previous history that gives me some very small hope they do fix it but like you all so said I dont think it can or will be.

Shame I all so agree BIS used to be the best game DEV out there by miles they had patch after patch for ARMA 1 and 2 years after its release.

But ARMA 3 for me has really upset me I am truly gutted I loved OFP and ARMA I never used to play any thing else but now I cant bear to even start ARMA 3 up.

I see patch after patch for ARMA 3 not one fixes these terrible performance issues or if they do they cover it up and not fix the real problem.

BIS for god sake please I beg of you and so does many of your loyal fans for the past 12 years please give us some info or at least put us out of our misery so I can move on with my life :(

It's the excuses that get old. It's always, "Well it will take massive engine rewrites" so it's "too hard". I'm seeing that BI doesn't want to implement something unless it's plug and play with their existing code. If it's not and it requires any rewriting of things, it's probably "too hard". It's just getting old now when on a very capable system, this game runs like utter crap and I can easily see why.

I hate to say it, but they're just plain lazy about things by their own admissions.

[kuboss 10]

Hello,

When I finally started playing Full released Arma III, about a few weeks ago (13.9.2013), I got about 30-50fps in multiplayer with very high details (and 32+ players).

Now, about a month later, after game updates and fixes, I started game again, and now its unplayable with 4-20fps in multiplayer, no matter how are the graphical settings. (Singleplayer works fine like at the start (game release) with about 50fps average)

I did not any changes with my hardware or software, and all other applications and games works fine.

What is worng/what has changed?

My HW specs.:

CPU: i5 2500k 4,7Ghz OC

GPU: HD8650 OC/PE 1GB GDDR5

RAM: 8GB 1600Ghz

P.S.: My GPU usage during Multiplayer play is 20-25%, when playing singleplayer its about 40-65%.

[albal21 10]

What is worng what has changed?

Sorry had to remove the slash because the POS forum though it was a link - how sad.

Just bought the game today. What a POS. I have an i7 3930K running at 4.5GHz and a GTX780 at 1300MHz. This game runs horrendously, 25fps during single player 'taster' I dread to think what a MP game or something with a more than a few person AI will do.

Even this forum is trash: "You last visited: Jan 1 1970 at 01:00" speaks volumes I can tell you.

Will be raising a paypal dispute in the morning.

[omerc 10]

Sorry had to remove the slash because the POS forum though it was a link - how sad.

Just bought the game today. What a POS. I have an i7 3930K running at 4.5GHz and a GTX780 at 1300MHz. This game runs horrendously, 25fps during single player 'taster' I dread to think what a MP game or something with a more than a few person AI will do.

Even this forum is trash: "You last visited: Jan 1 1970 at 01:00" speaks volumes I can tell you.

Will be raising a paypal dispute in the morning.

Some people just want to complain. That's alright.

Your frame rate doesn't sound right. One thing is the multiplayer performance, another thing is singleplayer, where there are obviously fewer variables.

What are your graphic settings? And during which game mode did you see the 25 fps? Editor, showcase, downloaded mission?

Edit: I know your performance is off, as I have similar but "weaker" system specifications and achieve a healthy 40-50 fps in singleplayer.

[Minoza 11]

If he cranked up Object distance then framerate of 25 sounds reasonable.

[St. Jimmy 272]

Sorry had to remove the slash because the POS forum though it was a link - how sad.

Just bought the game today. What a POS. I have an i7 3930K running at 4.5GHz and a GTX780 at 1300MHz. This game runs horrendously, 25fps during single player 'taster' I dread to think what a MP game or something with a more than a few person AI will do.

Even this forum is trash: "You last visited: Jan 1 1970 at 01:00" speaks volumes I can tell you.

Will be raising a paypal dispute in the morning.

You just can't go for 12K/12K, SSAO on Ultra, 8x FSAA and 100 AI fighting on each other. Learn to tweak.

@kubos

Your 40-65% GPU usage in single player sounds like your CPU demanding options (view and object distances) are too high. In multiplayer it can be the server/mission because I get 30-50 in multiplayer with worse specs.

[kuboss 10]

kubos

Your 40-65% GPU usage in single player sounds like your CPU demanding options (view and object distances) are too high. In multiplayer it can be the server/mission because I get 30-50 in multiplayer with worse specs.

I know what you mean, but there are two basic problems. (lets go talk just about multiplayer)

1. Before patch, game went smoother with even higher graphic specs

2. These FPS drops in MP, are destroying gameplay no matter how is distance, or any other graphic settings set. (between Ultra and Low is difference cca 4 fps.)

Actually I tried everything, and now, I am done. Bought, for me expensive game, and stuck on this problem.. :(

[nikiforos 450]

Actually if the game continues with that kind of low optimization and performance I'm planning to leave it once and for all.

I bought the GTX 680 , I overclocked my CPU from 3,3 to 4.4 Ghz and still the game runs bad when there is a battle going on. I spent already too much time and money for the game but there is a limit.

PS

I have been a fan since 2002 and love the game but.. (you know the rest)

[jumpinghubert 49]

Actually if the game continues with that kind of low optimization and performance I'm planning to leave it once and for all.

I bought the GTX 680 , I overclocked my CPU from 3,3 to 4.4 Ghz and still the game runs bad when there is a battle going on. I spent already too much time and money for the game but there is a limit.

PS

I have been a fan since 2002 and love the game but.. (you know the rest)

comprehensible. My last step trying to compensate the bad optimization: changing my ram from 1600er to 2400er :p

[nikiforos 450]

comprehensible. My last step trying to compensate the bad optimization: changing my ram from 1600er to 2400er :p

Well actually I don't bother any more. It's up to BIS not me anymore :)

[nuxil 2]

Well actually I don't bother any more. It's up to BIS not me anymore :)

im about to give up on the game aswell, its full of bugs "like a bug hive", shitty performance. and lets not talk about the content, rather lack of it..

for me. ArmA3 is worse than what ArmA2 was on its release. and we have to admit. it was verry terrible.

one can tune & tweak some, but it has its limits. there is a huge issue with performance in mp, if this is caused by a bug or major flaw in design, only bis knows.

lets hope bis fixes this soon. as we are many who wants to enjoy the game.

[stk2008 14]

It sure is up to BIS.

I just tested again in MP and was getting 9fps

Yeah yeah your going to ask what mission etc I say bullcrap I tested loads and there all rubbish.

This engine needs to be fixed ASAP BIS are loosing there loyal customers over ARMA3.

I keep seeing update after update adding rain,lighting whats the bloody point BIS you NEED to give us some kind of feedback here this is terrible.

Loyal fan since OFP (2002) I was so looking forward to ARMA3 new graphics,physX etc etc but LOL I cant even play the game it runs terrible.

Dont bother to ask my system specs even all detail low its not what it should be its the engine and thats all there is to it.

:(

[tonschuh 3]

comprehensible. My last step trying to compensate the bad optimization: changing my ram from 1600er to 2400er :p

I had the same idea, but have a look:

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G.SKILL QUAD Pack RIPJAWS Z Fan Module 4x4gig (16gig) DDR3 2400MhzCL11 F3-19200CL11Q-16GBZHD

Specification

Quad Channel Memory Designed For Intel X79 platform

Intel XMP 1.3 Ready

System Desktop

System Type DDR3

M/B Chipset

Intel X79

CAS Latency 11-11-11-31-2N

Capacity

16GB (4GB x4)

Speed DDR3-2400 (PC3 19200)

Test Voltage 1.65 Volts

Height 40 mm / 1.58 inch

Registered/Unbuffered Unbuffered

Error Checking Non-ECC

Type 240-pin DIMM

Features Intel XMP (Extreme Memory Profile) Ready

Price $ 299

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It's just insane to invest such an amount of money for a Game that run's like crap. Other Games will not gain much from it.

:butbut: