Karzeghistani Defence Forces (Shapur Conflict)

[slatts 1978]

So I thought I'd post about my new little faction mod, creating the Karzeghistani Defence Forces circa 1994. Set during a battle with Takistan over the Shapur area of Karzeghistan featured in BAF. They are a country mainly backed by the UK, France and the US. Although I plan to use as much European gear I can get my hands on just to be a bit different from the generic cold war US gear.

Current weapons include, G3A3, M/45 SMG and hopefully a Bren gun. Vehicles, Panhard M3 and "Arab style" Landrover or Toyota (more on that soon) You can suggest away but please keep in mind the mainly European influence.

Hopefully some mission makers will pick up on it to create a few scenarios, I've drawn up a back ground story just to go on. Thankfully the Arma website has lots dates and events to go on for the Armaverse.

After years of conflict with it's neighbour Ardistan beginning in 1985. Takistans resources are low and the country's military disillusioned after a bloody , trench warfare stalemate. A coup d' état takes place in Takistan in 1988 over throwing the long reigning Monarchy. Royalists by backed by the USA, Socialists by the USSR.

However the Socialists prevailed in 1992. Takistan is almost out of resources and looks to it's small neighour to the south. Karzeghistan and Takistan have long been at odds with each other over the vast oil fields in the Shapur district. The Takistani Military decides to capture these oil fields and in the summer of 1994 invades the small nation of Karzeghistan, However due to inexperience, progress is slow and the Takistani Army is only able to progress as far as the Darya River.

The KDF defending the area is over run. And the rest of the Military is deployed to defend the capital Mazargan.

Although long supported by the West, mainly the U.K and France, Karzeghistan recieves little support. As the west was too focused on the ongoing Yugoslav Wars.

However Karzeghistan recieved a lifeline when in October of 1994, The newly formed country of Chernarus, Prime Minister and Minister of Defence, Ivan Buchta and Martin Pezlar respectivialy, decleared that they would not "Idley stand by so long as the Takistani Army occupied land it had no right to." As the CDF massed along it's border with Takistan, Takistan redeployed it's best units to that area over fear of attack, leaving only poorly trained conscrits in Shapur.

It was at this stage that Karzeghistan felt is was best launch a counter attack to retake their land. Else the whole Green Sea area decend into large scale war.

I'll be posting more pictures in the coming days but heres the infantry so far. The camo is original British desert that was dropped and used by a few ME countries. I think it's not out of place ;)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/guitaro-man/arma2oa2013-02-1219-53-27-70_zps91bc6032.png

Thanks to Vilas and GranQ for their help so far, and anyone else I forgot <3

[Spartan 163 0]

A new Army is always welcomed. Anything new to shoot at is always welcomed.

[aidas2 10]

Looks pretty good so far, are those vilas soldiers?

[chauvinista 10]

As it looks, Armaverse is getting quite expansion :)

[slatts 1978]

They are indeed aidas :)

I think that's the whole green sea area covered in some timeline now ;)

EDIT: I also have small request to any budding or experienced map maker who would be interested in a new map to go along with this to drop me a PM to discuss this :)

[h34dup 148]

Looking pretty good so far!

[Rovka 14]

Does it mean that the Karzegistani based on British equipment implies British older tanks for one? (Like Centurion or Chieftain)

Whatever way it goes, its welcome indeed! Good luck with creating the interesting units and equipment. And thanks for creating these.

[slatts 1978]

I would be interested in a Chieftain or AMX-30 tank, however atm armour/aircraft aren't high on the list :)

[fingolfin 1972]

I like the idea to add more armies to the armaverse.

One thing: the green helmets stand out very much. How about adding some paint to the helmets (Picture) and/or improvised helmet covers (Picture)?

[slatts 1978]

I do want to change the helmets, adding an older British helmet instead. So I could give it a tan colour :)

[flv*venom* 83]

Slatts you're da man!

actually I was putting together an early 90s Taki vs. Karzeghi scenario but cludn't for the life of me find 'good enough' Karzeghi units! giving them old british or french vehicles sounds good, one question though: could cou consider arming them with the G3A2 instead of the G3A3 ? Or add a unit with that rifle? (don't know why but I think that wooden grip fits the region somehow...maybe because of pakistan) but anyway, awesome project good luck!

[Rovka 14]

Hi again,

Whilst browsing Armaholic.com I stumbled upon a Chieftain addon, perhaps you already know it, but its from the mod British Army of the Rhine (BAOR) created by Trouble http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=13577 Perhaps if permission is granted, this may give the possibility for a reskin, and reconfiguration of the original file's need for BAOR crew units being replaced with Karzegistani crew. I wish you luck with getting the permission, and hope it will be granted to you for your reskin/reconfiguration job done.

*Edit* There are pictures around of AMX-30 from the Operation Frenchpoint mod http://www.armaholic.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=131013&highlight=AMX-30#131013, I don't know if these tanks are already released in an Armour/Armor set from Operation Frenchpoint or not, but perhaps you get permission for a reskin, etc. Ikar is the one who made the AMX-30. Good luck! (atleast it excists.)

Edited February 14, 2013 by Thani '82

[yevgeni89 163]

I could for see a lot of mg3's laying about as well, maybe a small tribal police force with smle's/lee enfield , definitely should consider the steel pot, vilas paki or indian soldier model that comes with his weapon holder units would do nicely if you can get the permission for it.

http://sim.in.com/98cbd9c8fe38fd618254376a005eeea9_ls_t.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mzeaY-VMqh8/TB1-UxNZ3dI/AAAAAAAAAc0/1mIT_OsVfTw/s1600/Pakistani_soldiers_army_news_06072007_002.jpg

http://aacounterterror.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/pakistan_army.jpg

got a few pic references

Edited February 19, 2013 by yevgeni89

[slatts 1978]

Just a small update, Officer model with Panhard M3

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/guitaro-man/arma2oa2013-02-1819-43-49-42_zpsf4fa4f9f.png

[stupidwhitekid75 11]

The Gazelle for recon/light attack and Lynx for transport/attack would be cool to see and would be fitting for the timeline.

[yevgeni89 163]

Looks like Capraia has a developing ally :D

[R0adki11 3949]

Looks like Capraia has a developing ally :D

I think the Karzeghistani Defence Forces certainly would be part of the Green Sea Defence Council :)

[pkzbad 1]

Well, I think it would be kinda cool if this army is part of the "independent" faction. A kind of unpredictable ally. A point to consider maybe.

[slatts 1978]

GSDC eh? ;) btw I left my skype on last night when you send me a message, was out drinking :p

I do like the idea of them being part of the indie faction, a bit more mission maker freedom. thanks for the idea :D

[Sakai 1]

New government toke place lads! Slatts sadly no longer works on KDF, but to keep the awesomeness I decided to step in and save it!

Not much to show off yet, been working on getting a model working and some annoying bugs with it, but will show a thing off, sadly yet many things to fix in it but at least you will see a preview of Karzeghistani Desert Camouflage

This fella is missing out his gear so no worries his just naked at the moment, vest, shoes, helmet and hat is to be added! He is simply too hot to wear them all clothing!

DropBox - Picture 1 Picture 2 [Dropbox has bigger sized pictures with better quality] [Pardon for the darkness, not a lot of sun was aimed when doing the picture]

I shall promise you a prospecting in strength nation!

Seems like my seamless camouflage looks splendid!

And for future reference, the KDF will be using FN FAL's, you know me! Im a big lover of FN FAL so I will create FN FAL variants from marksman to LMG's

I will try to get a better picture once I get home from work of the camo :)

Another information, I will be doing two sets, Modern and 94 Circa, first one will be Modern

Edited May 28, 2013 by Sakai

[Rovka 14]

This is great to hear! Thank you so much Sakai for your time and effort to pick up and continue this interesting modification!

Sad to hear that Slatts moved on, but good to hear you keep it going, I certainly welcome any expansion of the Armaverse.

Regarding the screenshots, are you opting for a custom Woodland camouflage for the units, aswell as Desert battledress?

And equipment wise, will the Karzeghistani army be outfitted with British made Chieftains tanks, as Slatts initially considered?

I mentioned some urls in an previous post of mine here in this very same thread. Will you still opt on using those Chieftains if permission is given?

It certainly would be awesome to have something different then the M60A3 Patton on a western themed Karzeghistani army. The Chieftains are able to endure multiple hits, but are rather slow moving though.

Anyways, good luck and best regards.

[Sakai 1]

This is great to hear! Thank you so much Sakai for your time and effort to pick up and continue this interesting modification!

Sad to hear that Slatts moved on' date=' but good to hear you keep it going, I certainly welcome any expansion of the Armaverse.

Regarding the screenshots, are you opting for a custom Woodland camouflage for the units, aswell as Desert battledress?

And equipment wise, will the Karzeghistani army be outfitted with British made Chieftains tanks, as Slatts initially considered?

I mentioned some urls in an previous post of mine here in this very same thread. Will you still opt on using those Chieftains if permission is given?

It certainly would be awesome to have something different then the M60A3 Patton on a western themed Karzeghistani army. The Chieftains are able to endure multiple hits, but are rather slow moving though.

Anyways, good luck and best regards.[/quote']

Allow me to write in full detail what I do plan.

Firstly I plan continue on doing two versions, My version aka Modern Styled 21st Century KDF and 1994 circa KDF which has all the stuff Slatts wanted to add.

Problem with trouble's Chieftains is that they are bugged same as the lynx, know that as I tried getting them to work properly for FAC. I will most likely going to ask the French modders for the AMX unless new/other tanks appear or suggestions

And for the camouflage, its already sorted out, Woodland, Desert, Light Woodland and Urban are ready to be used, all seamless, however how it will work is that they will be wearing Desert on clothing and woodland on vest/helmets as inspired by the western nations. ((That is for the 21st Century one))

Allow me to as well say that Im all into community modding, I do my mods based on community wishes and I try to make them come true ...

EDIT:

Here is a better view of the camouflage:

Picture 1

Picture 2

It is not easy to see the true colors of it when there is no direct light aka shadow is hitting it which is rather normal when it comes to science.

Model still has stuff to fix, leg texture, shadows...

Edited May 28, 2013 by Sakai

[Rovka 14]

If possible through permission given to do so, and practicable to spare you some modelling work, I would like to suggest to see if you are allowed to retexture the excellent Bundeswehr UNOSOM troops made by Marseille77. Please click for further info.

Those soldiers have older western gear, including M1 helmets for the 1994 era/reservists, and kevlar helmets for modern day representation. If permission is given you can slap on your own Karzeghistani textures, whilst maintaining the atmosphere of having to do with a western influence. Speaking of tanks, again if permission is given, I would like to suggest to see if modifying WLD247's P:RACS Leopard 1A5 for the 1994 timeperiod, and the P:RACS Leopard 2a4 for the more current timescale is allowed for. This as Germany is selling of huge amounts of its tank fleet, whereas Chieftains didn't get sold in exports all that many anyways.

I know this goes against Slatt's wishes to have it hang towards British influence, but you perhaps may tend to use British woodland/desert DPM camouflage, or a variant thereof on the units to achieve that British feel. :) For vehicles I like to suggest single-toned Khaki or sand-brown colors on the desert themed vehicles, and British two-toned (click here for British vehicle camo example) woodland camouflage on the woodland variants. What do you (Sakai) and others think of it?

Anyways, thanks in advance for your response, and I merely suggest, but other ideas are also good to hear if anyone coins up something else. It sure is welcome, the more the merrier. But for now these are my two cents on it.

Edited May 29, 2013 by Thani '82

[slatts 1978]

Best of luck Sakai :D For those interested, here's the infantry and weapons as they were when I last picked this up http://www.mediafire.com/?p7oldvt0o0e9kzu They aren't perfect but give you an idea of what I was going for.

[Sakai 1]

If possible through permission given to do so' date=' and practicable to spare you some modelling work, I would like to suggest to see if you are allowed to retexture the excellent Bundeswehr UNOSOM troops made by Marseille77. Please click for further info.

Those soldiers have older western gear, including M1 helmets for the 1994 era/reservists, and kevlar helmets for modern day representation. If permission is given you can slap on your own Karzeghistani textures, whilst maintaining the atmosphere of having to do with a western influence. Speaking of tanks, again if permission is given, I would like to suggest to see if modifying WLD247's P:RACS Leopard 1A5 for the 1994 timeperiod, and the P:RACS Leopard 2a4 for the more current timescale is allowed for. This as Germany is selling of huge amounts of its tank fleet, whereas Chieftains didn't get sold in exports all that many anyways.

I know this goes against Slatt's wishes to have it hang towards British influence, but you perhaps may tend to use British woodland/desert DPM camouflage, or a variant thereof on the units to achieve that British feel. :) For vehicles I like to suggest single-toned Khaki or sand-brown colors on the desert themed vehicles, and British two-toned (click here for British vehicle camo example) woodland camouflage on the woodland variants. What do you (Sakai) and others think of it?

Anyways, thanks in advance for your response, and I merely suggest, but other ideas are also good to hear if anyone coins up something else. It sure is welcome, the more the merrier. But for now these are my two cents on it.

Thanks for the suggestions we will see what I can do however as I said before firstly Im starting off with modern times, now that Slatts uploaded the 1994 KDF I have less work to do when working on it because I will continue on from where he left off but at the moment I always like to start off from modern times. As well got vilas's mlods finally thanks to R0adki11, he saved my life once again!

And thank you Slatts :)

EDIT:

FN FAL Short, its a shorter version of a FN FAL, it weights less than a big FAL but the range is lowered due shorter barrel, perfect weapon for Recon units or Officers.

Picture 1

Picture 2

And a video I decided to make for it :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ozf90wHY4

Sound will be mostly changed, found it on a random website while lurking on google due the gun didnt have a sound (JSRS bug)

Credits for the gun goes to arby26 from gamebanana.com and other members that make models and allow people to use them!

EDIT 2: Just tested, The gun works fine with the JSRS distance gun fire sound, and it sounds actually amazing :'O

Edited May 29, 2013 by Sakai