Fenrisulven 1 Posted January 31, 2012 I guess you will be right .. and the next step; criminalize anyone surfing anything but the "official" web. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted February 1, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-tD1yaE0GfQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted February 1, 2012 Is it weird that the most annoying thing about that video is that he keeps calling it Mega UploadS... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mondkalb 1087 Posted February 1, 2012 Does he work for The Sun? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted February 1, 2012 Does he work for The Sun? One could think so. Of course he is overreacting, but there are some valid points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudayev 27 Posted February 3, 2012 https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=pl&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=212120558776447282985.0004b7b33e16f13c710c7 This is constantly updated international map of anti-ACTA prostests. Find a protest near you now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted February 3, 2012 Nice read: http://www.salon.com/2000/06/14/love_7/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACPL Jon 68 Posted February 3, 2012 Latest news: Poland won't ratify ACTA. (yet?) Polish prime minister halts ACTA ratification process (in Polish) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted February 3, 2012 it is only another p.r. according to lawyers it is only public relations trick according to lawyers you cannot sign something and say it is not ratified , also we are member of EU, if European Comission notify something, it also rely to us, i am not lawyer but i believe that they say it right, politicians seeing protests on the streets now try to do public relation tricks, please ask any lawyer, is it possible to sign something and than not ratify it is it possible to be member of EU and not have law notified (notyfikowany, nie powiadomiony) by European Comission http://webhosting.pl/Tusk.zawieszam.ratyfikacje.ACTA.Prawnicy.nie.ma.czegos.takiego.jak.zawieszenie.ratyfikacji < in Polish too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted February 3, 2012 They are saying that they won´t ratify it, but they hope that enough other countrys will. If that happens they have to ratify it anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krycek 349 Posted February 4, 2012 Not exactly related to ACTA,but I read about France's Hadopi law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HADOPI_law Any people from France could confirm this passed or not? I heard they made a second version which passsed.Basically ISPs are monitoring your traffic so if you download a song BAM first warning,if you do it second time,second warning,third time they cut off your net for 6 months or a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted February 4, 2012 Not exactly related to ACTA,but I read about France's Hadopi law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HADOPI_lawAny people from France could confirm this passed or not? I heard they made a second version which passsed.Basically ISPs are monitoring your traffic so if you download a song BAM first warning,if you do it second time,second warning,third time they cut off your net for 6 months or a year. Yes of course it passed. But it's now blatantely obvious that the authority in charge of it is lacking of means, i don't know anybody around me that have been even warned my a simple mail. Figures released by the HADOPI were : 22 millions of reported infractions, only 1 million of IP identifications done, 470.935 warning mails sent, 20.598 second warning mails sent, 60 people summoned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krycek 349 Posted February 4, 2012 Yes of course it passed. But it's now blatantely obvious that the authority in charge of it is lacking of means, i don't know anybody around me that have been even warned my a simple mail.Figures released by the HADOPI were : 22 millions of reported infractions, only 1 million of IP identifications done, 470.935 warning mails sent, 20.598 second warning mails sent, 60 people summoned. But what if they get the means one day?By having this thing passed they have the legal basis now. Hah,those 60 people were very unlucky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudayev 27 Posted February 4, 2012 it is only another p.r. You're right here. Tusk screwed us all by signing and showing his grin during the conference on ACTA. "There will be no concessions to brutal blackmail", that's how he summed up the first protests and acta alarms. Perfect picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whisper 0 Posted February 8, 2012 But what if they get the means one day?By having this thing passed they have the legal basis now.Hah,those 60 people were very unlucky. The general consensus is that HADOPI has been a failed. If it has had some impact, one of the most important was to redirect people from Peer2Peer distribution to Filesharing distribution, through now famous Megaupload and such. Which means it drifted money to more or less official hackers and mafia, not to artists or entertainment industry. It led to having their market dictated by these mafias, they now know the price of online distribution, it's 10$ per month. And they didn't chose it, MU did it for them. I work in a french ISP, the shift of traffic from peer2peer to direct download has been clearly visible. There's a good chance the whole thing is dropped during the next presidency (if current president is dropped, ofc) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Hi all One of the worst things that will increase with ACTA is Patent Trolling, like this attempt to post fact patent the internet: http://gizmodo.com/5883891/texas-jury-smacks-down-landmark-shakedown-attempt-by-infamous-patent-troll Because ACTA is a treaty rather than a national law created by your countries legislature it supercedes your national laws and constitution. Companies and it will be a Company looking for a profit, that is to say a legal fiction, can wind up a foreign prosecutor and an amenable judge and the court and or judge in your land is not even allowed to consider whether the case is one that could be answered in the local jurisdiction. All those prosecuting have to prove is that you "appear", note that word, to have case to answer in a foreign jurisdiction. Further the company can shop around for the most advantageous jurisdiction from which to launch the case ie one where the defendants rights and legal defenses are lowest where their costs are highest and where the tendency to prosecute and convict foreign defendants is highest, and the punishments are the most severe. Most importantly the country that is most easily lured by the prospect of tax gains and judicial case costs from spurious cases is the one they will choose to register their product and claim. In many cases just like the effect of the ambulance chasing lawyers on insurance those litigated against will simply settle out of court rather than be bankrupted in the courts. Worst of all in many cases because this treaty includes criminal extradition proceedings within its clauses the target for the ACTA scam must be locked up until they are extradited, just like Kim Dotcom. And your local judiciary has to accept that foreign court in a foreign jurisdiction has accepted that those prosecuting you "appear", note that word, to have case you must answer in said foreign jurisdiction. And in the case of Kim Dotcom he has to stay in jail the whole time he is fighting the case. Even if in the end he proves himself innocent and in the mean time the companys that brought the action, because he was out competing them at providing publishing services to artists, hense why so many artists supported him, have destroyed their successful competitor and he has lost his business because the case will last years. Where those less competitive companies will be stealing his business. Remember this company was 4% of internet traffic. With millions of legal paying customers using it to store and distribute their files. Of course the thing they wanted to stop was the MegaBox which was due out this month. Kind regards walker Edited February 10, 2012 by walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted February 13, 2012 German but worth a watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted February 22, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17125469 The European Union’s highest court has been asked to rule on the legality of a controversial anti-piracy agreement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
