Marco Simoncelli killed in Sepang

[Daniel 0]

You can always choose to say nothing when the alternative is to piss people off.

[mrcash2009 0]

Minute Man, I think you might be posting a loosing battle here mate, best let it go and let it be a thread for what it is, the rest you would have to take up with moderators I would imagine.

Looks like i hit in a nest of death worshipers.

That would only be the case if everyone was embedding all video footage, pictures and details.

Edited October 23, 2011 by mrcash2009

[viper[cww] 14]

RIP to a talented young man.

@Minutemen

Your a real piece of work...

[Tonci87 163]

Show some respect for what? Thats a pointless and dangerous sport and he knew the risk. His death was just unnecessary and stupid and i show no respect for an attitude which put live in such unnecessary risk.

Thats not cool or manly, thats just suicidal stupidity.

They closed the threat about the little chinese girl which was overrun while everyone just standing around, because their society is totaly rotten, but now its time for expression of sympathy because a young man took an unnecessary risk and died? For what? Five minutes of fame? I'am in Rollerball ?

Looks like i hit in a nest of death worshipers.

Whatever, but your reaction is

[Minutemen 10]

That would only be the case if everyone was embedding all video footage, pictures and details.

No, its a bit more complicated.

See, people celebrate this pointless sports which are unecessary dangerous but then they do so affected if something bad happens. They talked already about settle down some kind of sports, because it goes way to fast and dangerous. Its like Rollerball, we enter slowly the circus maximus just for entertainment.

This is in the news but i heard never about him before. Looks like it still makes a difference if you should die in a sport stadium or a mud hut.

It remindes me on children which do something dangerous while calling Daddy. "Daddy, daddy look what i do. daddy, daddy look."

But take response and speak out against pointless ****, i should be burned at a stake. Stupid sport. What makes this guy an idole, somebody who took his life on a stupid risk?

[mr burns 132]

See, people celebrate this pointless sports which are unecessary dangerous but then they do so affected if something bad happens. They talked already about settle down some kind of sports, because it goes way to fast and dangerous. Its like Rollerball, we enter slowly the circus maximus just for entertainment.

High end athletes suffering mid-game heart attacks aren´t unknown to footie either..

And there´s that say where paintball is staticially far less dangerous than golf, because paintballers usually do not suffer mid-game heart attacks :rolleyes:

Thing in motorsports is, it´s something they love to do and they´re damn good at. Compare it to soldiers/firefighters/nurses.., not everything they do is sane, but mostly welcomed and respected.

[viper[cww] 14]

He doesn't deserve recognition let alone a reply ;)

[Tonci87 163]

No, its a bit more complicated.

See, people celebrate this pointless sports which are unecessary dangerous but then they do so affected if something bad happens. They talked already about settle down some kind of sports, because it goes way to fast and dangerous. Its like Rollerball, we enter slowly the circus maximus just for entertainment.

This is in the news but i heard never about him before. Looks like it still makes a difference if you should die in a sport stadium or a mud hut.

It remindes me on children which do something dangerous while calling Daddy. "Daddy, daddy look what i do. daddy, daddy look."

But take response and speak out against pointless ****, i should be burned at a stake. Stupid sport. What makes this guy an idole, somebody who took his life on a stupid risk?

Man you really don't get it. It isn't about motorsport beeing dangerous, it is about morale, humanity and respect.

Your answer was totally wrong and disrespectfull.

[-martin- 10]

High end athletes suffering mid-game heart attacks aren´t unknown to footie either..

And there´s that say where paintball is staticially far less dangerous than golf, because paintballers usually do not suffer mid-game heart attacks :rolleyes:

Thing in motorsports is, it´s something they love to do and they´re damn good at. Compare it to soldiers/firefighters/nurses.., not everything they do is sane, but mostly welcomed and respected.

I agree with that, if people were to stop doing everything that is deemed to be dangerous we wouldn't be able to do anything, there would be no medicine, absolutely nothing...

People race because they love it and they are good at it. I have no connection to it and I'm not good at it so I'm not a race car driver.

If race drivers know that they love it so much that they rather take the risk, and they weight up the risks properly, let them do it. If they didn't weigh up the risks first, their fault and they will pay the price, not you. What is the point of them sitting at home worried about their life if the thing that they want to do most in life is race but they can't? That defeats the point of life.

Life is a gamble, you win some and you lose some, everything is a risk, without a risk there would be no fun in life, no progress and without death there would be no life.

But its basic human solidarity to pay respects to someone who has died no matter why and how they died. If you can't do that don't say anything at all and nobody will want to burn you at a stake.

Being disrespectful to a dead person is just as dangerous as motor racing sometimes

Wisdom is your best friend in life

Edited October 23, 2011 by -Martin-

[mrcash2009 0]

Im not in defence of dangerous "things" myself, you can use that argument and then post the same attitude on a military thread about a bomb disposal expert passing away if you wanted based on that logic.

I think whats being missed, isn't the why's and wherefores of the sport and danger, just the fact that this thread was paying respects to a person who passed away (irrespective of how). The rest is your personal take on the sport itself and not what this thread was intended for.

I dont follow motor-sports myself and I understand the dangers (pretty bloody obvious really), but what interested me the most was the footage and the moments before collision.

As the original OFP states:

A sad day for Motorsport :(.

RIP.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motogp/15420069.stm

It's a dangerous sport :(.

Its not as if that needs to be over highlighted again & again for everyone based on the outcome, kind of speaks for itself seeing as it killed him.

People die in all sorts of ways at work, driving home, all elements of danger involved, if you used putting yourself in danger as a way to say "who cares" once they die then you kind of contradict yourself in other situations this might have happened becuase of the danger/risk aspect, some more obvious than others. Again you cant get more "put yourself at risk" than the military, maybe people dont like that (opposed to war) but I doubt they would outwardly say "who cares" when they come back dead as a direct result of it.

Your general look at society/contradictions etc within this thread isn't going to wash with anyone as its not intended for that and never was, seems to me you have some overlap of other threads here, misdirected ranting I think its called :)

Anyway, kind of going of topic a bit, sorry chaps.

Edited October 24, 2011 by mrcash2009

[Minutemen 10]

Man you really don't get it. It isn't about motorsport beeing dangerous, it is about morale, humanity and respect.

And i think you don't get it.

If he would be the victim of a crime or died after long diseas after doing something that brings human society a bit more further, or died while defending something its worth to die for, than we could speak about humanity and morals.

But for the moment i just see the unnecessary death of a young man which risk his life for pointless fame. There is so much shit going on which deserves this "morale" and "humanity" way more. But hey, people wanna see the circus.

Over and out

[mrcash2009 0]

There is so much shit going on which deserves this "morale" and "humanity" way more.

So calm down and post their instead, logical really. :)

BTW you only discredit all valid points by doing things such as this mate.

Edited October 24, 2011 by mrcash2009

[viper[cww] 14]

Seeing most of your posts Minutemen they are either hateful/troll or attacking other members, since you haven't been discovered yet....

Added to ignore list. I strongly recommend others do so.

[-martin- 10]

And i think you don't get it.

If he would be the victim of a crime or died after long diseas after doing something that brings human society a bit more further, or died while defending something its worth to die for, than we could speak about humanity and morals.

But for the moment i just see the unnecessary death of a young man which risk his life for pointless fame. There is so much shit going on which deserves this "morale" and "humanity" way more. But hey, people wanna see the circus.

Over and out

I guess you don't really understand what passion means do you? Well, nobody is perfect; one day you will discover the meaning.

But think about it, every time you get on the train, in your car or in to an airplane. Every time that machine start to move your life is in danger until it stops and you get out, while you're inside your fait hangs on nuts and bolts that could come apart at any time without you knowing.

So is it worth it to take the train if you can walk? Would it be fair not to care about you if it does happen and leave you there injured because you knew the risk?

It's pointless talking to you, like if you talk to a wall. I've left my condolences in this thread and I'm not going to argue with you anymore, so just do the same thing and let others post their condolences too instead of getting the thread locked.

Edited October 24, 2011 by -Martin-

[W0lle 1050]

you realy compare driving a car to go to work or cross the street by race driving?

There is the Milton-way to compare such things and there is the common sense way to compare such things.

Everytime someone famous died, people pretent they give a softcake. For someone who sets his life at risk for totaly nothing. Like i said, thats not cool or manly, thats just suicidal stupidity.

This dead was so pointless as this sport itself.

Enough with this crap now. Obviously the infraction given before doesn't stop you from polluting this thread with your crap.

So, there are two options left now:

1) You stop your pointless comments here and now, or

2) We stop you making any more pointless comments

The decision is yours.

[mrcash2009 0]

Well after seeing other footage it seems as if on the right turn his right leg/foot drags under the centre of the bike and his kind of jammed, so he's stuck in a leaning to the right over the bike position and locked, which is why he's slumped and the bike wont straighten just as the collision happens.

Doesn't look to me that he could let go becuase of the foot/leg.

[Guest]

Sorry for the late reply.

I saw this footage as it happened, a truly horrific crash. The worst I have ever seen in Moto GP. Seeing his helmet come off, it is sickening.

To all those wondering about the circumstances of the crash, as Simoncelli exited the corner, he lost the front end of the bike. Normally this would result in a low side, where the bike just falls over, and you slide off the track.

However, the front tyre regained grip, and it also seemed that Simoncelli was stuck/and/or tried to save the bike. As the front wheel gripped, instead of sliding off the track, he actually drove straight into the middle, and you know the rest.

One of Moto GP's future stars for sure, such a shame. And only a week after Dan Wheldon died too.

R.I.P two fantastic racers. Very sad indeed.