Daniel 0 Posted May 5, 2011 So who made it so that Russia thought that CDF and US would invade Russia? Note the word "misinterpretation" in the ending titles. It nearly happened multiple times during the real Cold War, it was by no means out of the question during Harvest Red. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINMGXP 20 Posted May 5, 2011 Note the word "misinterpretation" in the ending titles. It nearly happened multiple times during the real Cold War, it was by no means out of the question during Harvest Red. If we follow the story correct that would not make any sense, Russia and the US had an understanding in handing over Lopotev they would not interfier with anything against ChDKZ. I dont think that it was misinterpretation, if they fired first they where provoked to fire first and it was not the US because they had not meaning to invade Russia. So who provoked Russia to make them believe the US would invade ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINMGXP 20 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) ChDKZ. They are exit cargo they where already actively involved so i don't believe so, it has to be a 3th party besides ChDKZ! Althought they will still be involved at some point it is larger then that :) Edit: i think we need the 3th hack to get any further to conect the dots a little better .... Edited May 5, 2011 by KBourne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
:DDDDDDD 10 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) "This is no stupid game! You're dealing with p3R51An 8lacK Hat5 8oy5 and every 42 hours we'll give you something to keep you aware. Keep you wondering. We know you found Spukayev's files back in 2009, and that they bought you a way out of that mess. But that's not everything the old crook had been hiding. The stash is still buried there." it makes to me Sense. We must find out who Spukayev's was. Edit: the connection is between Spukayev and the planes What do we know already about this guy ? Edited May 5, 2011 by :DDDDDDD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINMGXP 20 Posted May 5, 2011 "This is no stupid game! You're dealing with p3R51An 8lacK Hat5 8oy5 and every 42 hours we'll give you something to keep you aware. Keep you wondering. We know you found Spukayev's files back in 2009, and that they bought you a way out of that mess. But that's not everything the old crook had been hiding. The stash is still buried there."it makes to me Sense. We must find out who Spukayev's was. Spukayev's was a defected ChDKZ member, so we come back to the point where Razor team got orders to find the papers. And the other team had the task to get Spukayev's, now the other team got killed but the question is Spukayev's wasnt there he disepeared yes? Now maybe he is still a part of it in some way :confused: need the 3th hack!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.Taffy 10 Posted May 5, 2011 What happened to him after the Spetznas attack on FOB Manhattan? Was his body among the dead or had he dissappeared? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
:DDDDDDD 10 Posted May 5, 2011 Something smells here, why would speznas attack the FOB and Simons team ? Because they got Spukayev and he is the key of all that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINMGXP 20 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) What happened to him after the Spetznas attack on FOB Manhattan? Was his body among the dead or had he dissappeared? Nope never found it or encountered so far, or at least not that i can remember that he was spoken of ever again. Hes a ghost! Something smells here, why would speznas attack the FOB and Simons team ? Because they got Spukayev and he is the key of all that. ofcourse something smells :p thats the id ^^ and you nor .Taffy need to use spoilers all the time m8 :) Edited May 5, 2011 by KBourne Gramma correction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
:DDDDDDD 10 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) i love spoilers they are sooo cute :yay: Edit: My id smells :o :p Edited May 5, 2011 by :DDDDDDD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.Taffy 10 Posted May 5, 2011 Could it be that Spukayev was a Russian 'asset' within the Chedaki, passing documents to Chedaki command to guide the conflict to Russia's favour as part of some future global plan... Perhaps it was not a Russian Spetznaz team at all, and they were working for the Chedaki or within the Chedaki to set Russia and the US on the path to war.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINMGXP 20 Posted May 5, 2011 Could it be that Spukayev was a Russian 'asset' within the Chedaki, passing documents to Chedaki command to guide the conflict to Russia's favour as part of some future global plan...Perhaps it was not a Russian Spetznaz team at all, and they were working for the Chedaki or within the Chedaki to set Russia and the US on the path to war.... I think we need to look more in that way, maybe not directly to them but more in that way, don't forget you should have killed that Spetznaz team and the Russians got the shark handed over after all. Maybe that Spukayev is the double crosser in whole the story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweguy96 10 Posted May 5, 2011 Maybe this Spukayev manage to flee to russia and then provoke the russians to fire the nukes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
:DDDDDDD 10 Posted May 5, 2011 Spukayev thats it. He is so important and in Harvest Red they didnt mentioned him after that. very weird -_- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINMGXP 20 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) Maybe this Spukayev manage to flee to russia and then provoke the russians to fire the nukes? Maybe but how would only one man manage that? I maybe going a little to logical on a game, but that does not make any sense eather, there must be more .... Ok 5 min and then i will go home i have more assets to look on there ;-) kind regards Edited May 5, 2011 by KBourne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakerod 254 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) Spoiler tags people! In the nuclear ending of Red Harvest, I don't think Lopotev ever gets handed over. And even if he does, that ending occurs, form what I'm told, when one of the factions attacks Russian troops. The Russians take it as an invasion and use a tactical nuclear weapon on the fleet. The spetz attacked Simons team because they were looking for team Razor and/or because they had the guy from the house. After watching the endings that I posted before I really wish they had made a campaign about Razor team in Takistan. Edited May 5, 2011 by Jakerod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
:DDDDDDD 10 Posted May 5, 2011 Maybe this Spukayev manage to flee to russia and then provoke the russians to fire the nukes? But how he provoked the russians he forgot the plans !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINMGXP 20 Posted May 5, 2011 Spoiler tags people! In the nuclear ending of Red Harvest, I don't think Lopotev ever gets handed over. And even if he does, that ending occurs, form what I'm told, when one of the factions attacks Russian troops. The Russians take it as an invasion and use a tactical nuclear weapon on the fleet. The spetz attacked Simons team because they were looking for team Razor and/or because they had the guy from the house. The altered edings are only important on finding evidense what if the new story is build on only one of the endings they can't pick up on all of them is it? We need the 3th hack we can not conclude this by the info we have now ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob of Mage 10 Posted May 5, 2011 Remember the plans Spukayev put in the hole were most likely from someone like the CIA (or similar group). Something smell fishy here if some two bit insurgent has top sercet documents from a major NATO nation (the plans have to be from the USA due to a number of factors). So ask your self why would Spukayev have plans that appear to show an uncovered plan to attack Europe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted May 5, 2011 Spuk (Spook) could've been a triple Agent of the Agency or MI6, or even Mossad. ;) That's how it is most of the time when TOP Echelon plans are involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.Taffy 10 Posted May 5, 2011 The altered edings are only important on finding evidense what if the new story is build on only one of the endings they can't pick up on all of them is it? We need the 3th hack we can not conclude this by the info we have now ;) I just get the feeling there's more we should have gleaned from the clues we have gained so far....before the third hack. The text on the map and an Astute class submarine. SDREAM / Estimate #081206 Appendix 18 PHASE 5 97 NAV 91 NAV 17 AB 4 NAV 32 33 31 5 NAV 12 NAV Source: SDDUSTER via LCIGNITE (07/06/02), MKSEARCH Run 5 Ref. to p. 215-248; reliability disputable - SDREAM #000019 The world will change! 613 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gedis 0 Posted May 5, 2011 I have something hidden here :P Don't shoot me, I surrender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nistenf 10 Posted May 5, 2011 You know we can just click on quote to see you hidden message without clicking, rigth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
